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Guys and Girls,
You all want to know Neverdie’s secrets, some of you are angry and demand an explanation… You want an official explanation. Why did Neverdie buy club NEVERDIE.com on OCT 11th? How Did Neverdie succeed in using the Buyout feature one hour before Deathifier?

Well you have to look back in time for the answers… You have to look back to the time that I wrote I song called Gamer Chick and sent it to Mindark… who could have hated it and thrown it in the trash, but instead they liked it… At the time I sent it to
them, they were not hosting competitions offering thousands of dollars worth of Equipment for a player made movie to promote PE, nope they were doing none of that, yet here I was making music to celebrate virtual life and project Entropia….

When I sent them the song I included with it an Idea, “hey guys you could make the Juke Box cost a few pec to use and I could make money every time people listen to my song…” nothing wrong with that idea, that’s how juke boxes work in Reality….

Unfortunately Paying Juke Boxes was not very High up on their list of development priorities and they declined… I said hey what the Heck, you can just put my song in there anyway if you like it. Maybe later I could buy a night club or something….(lets not forget this was the early days, No land ownership, no taxes, Bars were empty, the most valuable items were mod faps… What the hell would be the point of a virtual Night Club?

Well some of you may know, I was producing and starring in a movie called HEY DJ! Featuring cameo appearances from many world famous DJ’s and I thought there might be a market for a virtual Night Club… Anyway that was that… I did however ask for permission to use a clip from Project Entropia in my movie HEY DJ!... Why? coz I love it, Coz I play it all friggin day and Coz my girlfriend loved it too…. So I put a scene of Tina and I playing project-Entropia in my movie… Hey and you know what else… I was distributing a lot of my own movies on DVD as well and I thought it would be cool to have the PE Movie on my DVD’s as extra content in the special features sections. Mindark had no problem with it… Free Publicity for them and I liked it too, I thought it was Cool and Hey after all MA was just a small company and an indie game developer, and I’m an indie Filmmaker…

I also offered to appear at a couple of conventions in Los Angeles, since MA had no one in the USA to represent them… By this time they knew I loved PE and I loved the whole concept of a Real Cash Economy, so they approved… Of course I had to provide some details to the people who ran the convention for their brochure so I said I was the US spokesman and people could ask me questions about marketing and business development, of course I would be referring interested parties to MA…. Was I paid by MA to do this ? No? was I employed by MA? Nope…




I Spent many years in Hollywood working on all kinds of stuff that I was passionate about for nothing… I am a person who pursues their dreams. I have a career of low budget art movies to prove it… Labours of Love, that I rarely got paid to do… Why did I do them, because I believed in them and I believed in myself… I believed that somehow my destiny lay in following my heart…. I often starved, I worked at starbucks… I even wrote a book About my journey……

So how does this tie in with Club NEVERDIE? Well when Treasure Island was added to the auction, I thought cool I will buy it and turn the castle into a Night Club…. I sold My mod fap, my shadow armor an imp fap, almost everything to the point that I no longer had the tools to Play PE…. I amassed a warchest of $20,000+ largely from in game profits… still concerned it wouldn’t be enough I started pre-selling housing lots on the forums….. I wanted to take money out of my Real World House But Tina Was fragile and I felt it would be too much of a risk…

Well I thought I would win Treasure Island, I was already planning my Club NEVERDIE, I told many other gamers that I would like to have a club… I even mentioned it to MA That I would want them to make some changes to the castle If I got it, so I could make a nightclub…

Anyway Auction time came around I had $26,000 in PEd, I thought I was going to get it for $10k, almost everyone else thought it was mine… And Whaddya know? Deathifier appears with a formidable war chest put together from a group of private investors outside of PE and he wins the Island….

Do you think anyone else in PE was as affected by that more than me? I was the sole underbidder? I had sold the rarest, coolest equipment to buy this place, I had all kinds of plans that were now put on hold…

What you think the first thing I did was? I asked MA to put something else in the auction, I’ll buy it? C’mon, I got $20,000 in cash here?

Did they? NO!!! it wasn’t on the agenda… not a priority…I watched like everyone else as the Treasure Island generated lots of publicity and I knew that I had helped make that happen if it were not for both Deathifier and I fighting for Treasure Island It would have sold for maybe $5k and the world might never have noticed….

SO I just lost the greatest PVP event in PE, and what did I do? Quit? Well Nearly…. I mean Tina died soon after, MA built a memorial, for the beautiful Gamer Chick, some players bitched and cried favoritism, I ran into financial difficulties, sold my pre-gold IMP MK II, etc etc… People flamed me for using Island girls Avatar to buy out one of Neverdie items… Heck I even warned people on the forums I was withdrawing the item, before I did it… Yes I thought about quitting, but I’m a passionate Person and I wasn’t going to let anyone… ruin my plans…. Nope I knew
Mindark was gonna need to make another splash, sell off some wonderful virtual Real estate and this time, I had nothing to Lose, my life was already in ruins, girlfriend dead,
Income dried up, resources tied up in a friggin DJ Movie… Hell this time I would sell the House IF I had to….

I was ready to pounce, and while you all were busy hunting and crafting I was refinancing, I was plotting, I was buying Web Domains, I was telling everybody in the Dance scene that I was gonna start a virtual night club and I would want them to spin there…

I was actually getting ready to buy the piece of land above memorial Island, lots of people knew that I wanted it… It was gonna be a virtual Ibiza, it was only slightly smaller than Treasure Island… But then Mindark decided it was time to show the world once again the Value of Virtual Real estate and they chose to create a space resort with a nightclub, Of course they knew I wanted a nightclub, maybe they had me in mind, they knew I was hungry to get back into the game after my defeat at the hands of Deathifier
And Hey guess what, they knew it would generate a #%$^@ boat load of publicity if it sold for $100,000, maybe they figured If someone were to really put that kind of money together, they would need a buy out feature to keep the transaction clean…

Nevertheless they timed the auction to end, December 19th around the same time Treasure Island ended a year before… that’s a sure sign they thought it was gonna be a long and fun affair…

They added the Resort News to the main page the day before Memorial Island N LA auction was due to end…of course I decided not bid for it… Jenna Star Mercury Spent a lot of time on that Friday trying to talk me and Deathifier into joining a consortium to buy the resort… He told me that Deathifier wouldn’t join the consortium,,,
What did that tell me???? Deathifier was going to go Solo, he already recouped most of his dough from TI! Jenna wanted it because he knew it would make History… …

I had a friggin Hurricane Bearing down On me in MIAMI!!!!!! I was already READY, this thing had my name written all over it… Do you think I was gonna get my ass Whooped Again???

Come On People are you NUTZ??????

Deathifier was thinking the same Thing.. HE moved Money from down under like a friggin magician!!! HE was ready too!!! His investors were ready!!!!

The same two People who duked it out the year before already had their fingers on the Button!!!!

That aint Rocket Science!!!

And whatdya know there was a few other smart folks breathin down our necks, but lets face it, they weren’t nearly as ready, they hadn’t already paid in blood Sweat and tears!!!

So What happened??????? NEVERDIE came back from the dead, of course he never really died after all, he was just licking his wounds…

And you know what Else NEVERDIE had his shit together, his domain names, his business plan…. And what happened… The Story Landed on the Front Page of the BBC
News 3 times in 10 days… “Virtual Night Club to Rock pop Culture!!!!”

I haven’t stopped working since the auction ended, just telling the world how incredible Project Entropia is and how Virtual reality is the future…. I just had a TV crew in my house for 2 days and I bared my soul to share with the world my virtual dreams…

I’ve been bleeding cash for a while now, web design, mortgages, domain names, I got it all riding on Club NEVERDIE.

And many of you may think well man that’s insane, you can’t do any better than that… Well think again… Did you watch the VGA (video game Awards) there were a million
Stars there… all the great games… any mention of PE? Nope. Was Deathifier there?
NO? Was NEVERDIE invited? NO! You wanna know why I called my club NEVERDIE? Because if you wanna really crack the mainstream… you gotta Brand your ass… You wanna get on Oprah, you gotta make a million bucks in virtual Reality not Spend $100k….

That’s where my head is at everyone! Im going for Oprah, Im going for the front cover of Rolling Stone. Im going for the front Cover of Time Magazine… Coz that’s when people are really going to take notice, that’s when our little virtual universe is gonna Explode that’s how high the stakes are…

And that’s all your gettin’ from me on this subject, I got a shit load to do, I got a bunch of crappy mobs to exterminate off the face of my Space Station… I got a 6 year old boy with no mamma, that needs to be read a bed time story and I got a party to start at the greatest virtual Night Club in the Universe!!!
 
Man Grats thats so well said ,and damm its good to hear that its the fruit of your hard labors, and not because you had a underhand deal with MA. Grats and +rep for not just dogding the subject and good luck witht the whole project.
 
You almost made me cry here, you have been thru alot, also imo alot more than should have been nessesary. I truely hope this project will turn out with the outmost success, and I hope that all the gamers in PE will help make it come true. :)
 
Cheers.

I for sure hope you will fulfill your dream.

I can understand if there´s criticism of MindArk sometimes. But I dont think its should spill out all over players. Ive met high and lows in PE, playerwise. Even some RL crooks planning vile activities. But those are happily not endurant enough to actually understand the "Virtual Reality"-thingy.

Following my own thoughts on the TI-auction (where I actually seriously thought of getting a loan from my bank - was just unsure of what to tell them ;-)
I met a more or less devastated Neverdie at Edichna after the auction. And tried to cheer him up a bit. Later after he bought the Club, I met him at cK island and talked some with him about the club and management, now he was full of life again, he had plans for the future, talked about the fuzz that the buy had created and we talked about some business ideas. About a kick-off, how to make a spin out of it. Neverdie was quite excited.

Well I couldnt think of a more suitable player to manage the station. He is creative, ambitious, loves the virtuality and has enough brains to get things going.

I really dont care much about MindArk's decision. Ive lost a couple of 10s of thousands of peds cause of their decisions, or actually my low risk assessment of the development. If MindArk decides its better to get 1 mill of Peds and make a quick buyout, cause they knew someone like Neverdie would do it. Well its quite fine with me. Actually is fair and square. If you have the money why not? Im sure there will be more things to come for others to invest in.

So Neverdie good luck.
 
Dope post.

+rep
 
Now that is freakin' awesome! Congrats and best of luck!

Suspension of judgement, people... Sextus Empiricus knew what he was talking about when he recommended his way of achieving tranquility. :wise:

Zim
 
Thanks, NEVERDIE. Personally, if I were you I'd not even bothered, but you show cojones by posting this thread.

Now. Can we get a sorry from everyone throwing accusations around in the other thread? Jon did his bit and told his story like you all demanded. Time for you to show similar guts, admit you were wrong, and apologise...
 
ViagraFalls said:
Thanks, NEVERDIE. Personally, if I were you I'd not even bothered, but you show cojones by posting this thread.

Now. Can we get a sorry from everyone throwing accusations around in the other thread? Jon did his bit and told his story like you all demanded. Time for you to show similar guts, admit you were wrong, and apologise...

I couldnt have said it better myself. +rep for neverdie
 
Wow, your words are so truthful and moving.

I remember how the lose of the TI auction effected you, you sold everything you had in pe to go for it and got crushed.

But more importantly then that; the lose of Tina.... don’t think I would have every recovered myself losing some one that dear.


Its sorry how things turned out with the negative unjustified attidue towards you, its not warranted.

Well if you every need anything and its with in my power .. I will help :)
 
Damn that was the best ^post i read in a LON LONG time
go get them neverdie
and the best of luck to you with your space station aswel in reallife :wise:
gratz
+rep
 
This was a fantastic post. From the time I came on here just a short while ago, I've been hearing speculations and innuendo about underhanded deals--which is a big deal since your purchase is what brought me here (the publicity you expected and deserve). Everything you've said in here is consistent with everything I read about it beforehand. And, honestly, when I started, you were PE. Yours was the guide I read during my first days of play.

I'm with Viagra Falls on this one: those who started throwing accusations owe you an apology. It's one thing to notice that you bought a domain name early. It's another to take that information and jump to conclusions--and then try to stir things up with those speculated conclusions. I admire you for staying polite. ;)

I'm looking forward to patronizing Club Neverdie and wish you the best of luck.

-Gryffon
 
Thats the way to do it dude!!! go for broke. Give pop culture a kick in the nuts and tell them the virtual scene is where its at. Try to get Chuck Norris to appear at ClubNEVERDIE. OMG DUDE!!! Here's a thought. Oprah could interview you AT club neverdie!!! that'd be the frickin sweet!
 
Neverdie,

Thank you, for bearing your soul here!

If you need ANY help man, hit me with a PM. You have my backing, and I know you have more stuff to deal with right now than any single man should be tasked with. I love the station, way to go!

Yes, I am one of the newbzors masses that joined because of your publicity...but I am hooked...like many more will be....

BTW, any of those converstations you have had with DJs include Oakie?

+rep of course...no question there.
 
ive also been promoting pe.... i just dont have the money to promote it in the same ways or not known enough...
this post doesnt make any diffrence on how i look at things, player with money played much shorter get more hoorays from ma players help testing during AWFUL times(we are talking bomb stacks exploding using up major peds lagstorms constantly rubberbanding disappearing items major server instability) some of us sticked with pe but have we been recognized as valuable to pe? hardly.

its realy not your fault neverdie so im not going to point the finger at you its the way ma handles it compared with other participants that have been working their asses of aswell to promote pe and try to make it progress(yes i know we all bitch about everything but that is just because we want pe to become more)

anyway i hope MAs attitude changes and can see more than how rich a person is when that person is trying to make a diff

just my opinion about the subject
 
I only come to these forums for information and not to post... I did create an account, eventually, to lock down my name :D

You're breaking story on CNN was what first drew me to this game. Before that I've never heard of it -- it's not well advertised in the US.

When I saw the post about you registering the domain even before the end of the auction I thought of how many legitimate ways hat could have happened. People are so quick to jump to conclusions or assumptions that they never consider the obvious. I will always be grateful to you for introducing me to this universe. Best of luck!

PS. I think MA should have handed out some tin foil hats for Christmas. :D

Editing post: Fixing typos.
 
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man. at the start you almost made me cry! but in the end, im way more happy.... +rep for coming out.
 
Madmanxtra said:
ive also been promoting pe.... i just dont have the money to promote it in the same ways or not known enough...
this post doesnt make any diffrence on how i look at things, player with money played much shorter get more hoorays from ma players help testing during AWFUL times(we are talking bomb stacks exploding using up major peds lagstorms constantly rubberbanding disappearing items major server instability) some of us sticked with pe but have we been recognized as valuable to pe? hardly.

its realy not your fault neverdie so im not going to point the finger at you its the way ma handles it compared with other participants that have been working their asses of aswell to promote pe and try to make it progress(yes i know we all bitch about everything but that is just because we want pe to become more)

anyway i hope MAs attitude changes and can see more than how rich a person is when that person is trying to make a diff

just my opinion about the subject


Ok not to knock you post but player playing much shorter?


Just want the record to show that when I first came to PE and was an noob (still am) Never die was playing for years .. That was roughly two years ago..

So Never die is no noob.. An seasoned vet of PE...
 
I think you'll do just fine. :hug:
 
Nicole said:
Ok not to knock you post but player playing much shorter?


Just want the record to show that when I first came to PE and was an noob (still am) Never die was playing for years .. That was roughly two years ago..

So Never die is no noob.. An seasoned vet of PE...


get your facts straight....
 
thats all very well, but you havnt answered... only joking.

Much kudos to you, Neverdie. The only real question is are you going to be able to licence some tracks to play while at the Club? Bit of Energy 52 on the jukebox please. :dance:
 
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I didnt seek for an answer - there are a lot of conspirasy on this Forum, and usually I let them be as they are. Some are SO busy about wondering/pondering, who is doing what and for what reason.

Nevertheless it was so interesting and very touching to know the story behind. Some people also somehow forget there are real life persons behind actions - and fortunately most people acts through emotions and to fullfill dreams, like here.

Thanks NeverDie to open up our eyes. I hope this is a lesson for some, not to judge others by "maybe's" and "perhap's". Not everytime - but most of the time, that it basicly done because of envy and jealousy.

Good Luck and Lootius blessings on your way. I look really forward to visit your spaceresort/club!

Lykke
TheNun

:beerchug: +rep
 
Guess What?

Guess what?
When TI was on sale, I went through my ingames assets, looked at the risk of the investment and found it to be worth a shot.
However, I also looked at the risk of NOT winning the auction with the ~300k PED i could have if I sold my equipment and decided that no, I wont take the risk, cause I think it would sell for more than that.
In hindsight that might have been enough to get TI, however, who knows, maybe deathifier had 400k PED ready.
And guess what?
There was more parties than neverdie and deathifier and his investors making arrangements to buy the space resort on buyout.

ALSO i have to totally agree with madmanxtra. There is a lot of people that have lived, breathed and cried PE ever since BETA that dont get any recognition whatsoever.
Theres more people that have offered to be at venues representing MA and PE and there is other people that have done so.
Do they get credit? No, they dont.

Good luck with the resort, I hope it will work out well, but dont expect me to pay an arm and a leg to go there, or not to let noobs i might run into up there know that there is a lot more to PE than the space resort.

With regards
The only guy who gave you actual competition on the first estate you bought.
 
Neverdie, I had no idea you lost your girlfriend in the middle of all this, and I cannot imagine how it feels to almost lose everything like that and still fight my way back to the surface, yet you did just that. I don't even know where to start to say how much I respect that..

+rep and best wishes.
 
cool post Neverdie. +rep for interesting reading.
 
Thanks alot for giving us ur side of the story Jon.. I must say that sometimes MA acts a bit fishy, and u being an MA spokes person, the adress being made 10days before they announced the sale etc made me start wondering what to belive really.. I'm really glad u sorted it up ;)

And I must say, I do belive it was for the best that u did lose the TI sale.. I think Deathifier has manged it greatly, and I trust in that you will manage the Space Resort much better, and with more heart and soul then anyone else would. I really belive u can make great wonders with your Space Station, and with ur devotion u might be the person who really puts PE on the map, and gives it the publicity that we all would benefit from, MA aswell who really deserves it for making this awsome game! =)


All I really wanna say is, Thanks Jon, Good Luck, and uhm.. "may the force be with you!"? hey.. it's space! duh.. xD

(I'm not a starwars geek!)
 
Salute dude.:)
 
Madmanxtra said:
get your facts straight....


Eehhmmm, are you saying that ND is a newbie, or are you saying that Nicole read your post wrong ?
 
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