New ammo amounts your opnion

[wizz]

If you where to shoot a chirpy with 900 ammo in real life there would not be any chirpy left...

Uhhhmmmm...don't know how to break this news to you, but..


there are no chirpies in real life

 

[Mika]

Uhhhmmmm...don't know how to break this news to you, but..


there are no chirpies in real life

Google images says otherwise =(

 

[wizz]

Weeeeeeehhhh

Thanks for the EFD Marco!

That was my first encounter with Bertha Bot


I should try to make you laugh more often

 

[Shadowwraith]

Interesting perception - I have never seen 1 Energy Cell or 1 BLP pack as 1 bullet. Energy Cells are, for me, battery power basically and some weapons use more energy than others. BLP packs contain the binary liquid propellant charges (two fluids) and not a single round as such. I mean, we don't have clips/magazines for weapons either.

Maybe we should add that, and get "Shots/Clip" with a clip reload cycle... *hmmm*

Marco if you guys do this please make sure that you DONT fuck with the real economy experienced by players even mathmatically. Certain role weapons could have certain purposes like a heavy machine gun just chugging away and thus having a longer term dps but a high power assault rifle will do more right off the bat then run out of bullets fast, and not have as much range. Laser should never have this though.... theres no excuse for laser to ever have it. People will quit.

 

[Kpeters]

Interesting perception - I have never seen 1 Energy Cell or 1 BLP pack as 1 bullet. Energy Cells are, for me, battery power basically and some weapons use more energy than others. BLP packs contain the binary liquid propellant charges (two fluids) and not a single round as such. I mean, we don't have clips/magazines for weapons either.

Maybe we should add that, and get "Shots/Clip" with a clip reload cycle... *hmmm*

First of all thanks for listening Marco! Or reading in this case...

That sounds good, or maybe like it was suggesting make it that we click it and see the peds instead of the ammo. I myself have always done the conversion when I see the ammo to the peds.

Cheers!

 

[jaywalker]

This has nothing to do with how good or bad at maths the player is, and everything to do with psycholgy.

A)The more the figures veer towards the astronomical, the more we peceive those figures as meaningless (In general. There will always be exceptions, of course) and so our brains aurtomatically give up on the maths

B) the exceptions to A are mostly little kids, who like to get astronomical scores in kiddie games, as we all know. So you get the feeling that MA are treating you like a kid. However, this the concept wouldn't even please kids, who would find their astronomical ammo count going down alamingly fast, not going up.

C) The longer the string of figures, the more likely you are to make a big mistake in the maths, by miscounting those figures, especially if you're just glancing to see how much ammo you have left, not exactly stocktaking.


You can fix these problems to some large extent by returning to the old values, so that the figure is broken by a decimal point.

Better still, you can fix it entirely by making the fractional part of that figure invisible.

jay

 

[L3xUS]

AAAARHG ... i should read more often here ...

logged in today since a long time ... saw the 560k ammo in inventory and several other big amounts and thought OMFG A BUG MUAHAHAHA and headed off to a trade terminal to get the thousand of peds then i saw it ... was kinda disapointed dont know ... is it to make look the loot more worth with all the K's ? would like the old amounts back .. well i also would like the pre VU 9.0 look back but whatever

 

[Jason Jay Carr]

pointless

i'm not normally one for complaining but after 5/6 years playing i am losing patience for an entropia i once loved, and this ammo change just seems totally pointless when there are so many other things that need sorting out to get players back and enjoying there time online

 

[stalkeer]

Ok,
Done with all 7 pages. Couple of things:
1) Big debate over something that we all going to get used to. Face it, changes in EU most of the time stay. 7th part of the armor ( foot guards) is one of them, and what's the point for a big debate?
2) Glad to see even once in a while that MArco dude reads or trys to read forum and replays, even if it's 2-4 post at once instead of posting once every now and than.
3) People are born to adopt, so start adopting or quit already.
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Regardless of comments i voted againts, but voiting never changes anything, we all know that.

 

[Kpeters]

In this case its not as complicated as the footguards...At least I don't see it that way its just the way MA is showing the amount of ammo on screen its a minor change.

 

[Mr Trayles]

So 1k ammo loot is crap loot now. Way to go this is really got me pissed. But well what do you think? Like it or not?

It seems silly to use such large number for ammo, but it hardly gets me pissed. I can hardly imagine what a cloud in the sky must do for you.

 

[Raffaele Meiers]

Ok,
Done with all 7 pages. Couple of things:
1) Big debate over something that we all going to get used to. Face it, changes in EU most of the time stay. 7th part of the armor ( foot guards) is one of them, and what's the point for a big debate?
2) Glad to see even once in a while that MArco dude reads or trys to read forum and replays, even if it's 2-4 post at once instead of posting once every now and than.
3) People are born to adopt, so start adopting or quit already.
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Regardless of comments i voted againts, but voiting never changes anything, we all know that.

Are you living in a ex or still communist state? I can tell you out of expirience that voting counts especially if you are living in a democratic country.

And in my view there is a hughe difference between a 7th armor part (decay producer) and to set the decimal point at a different place. MA wants more granularity to show the usage of enhancers but they choose a bad way to represent the ammo amount you have.

To me 13'000 is easier to see as energy for 13 pec used than 1'300 or 1300 especially when you have more numbers displayed around this 13

Especially when it changes to 13,00 K and not to 1,30 K used when you carry a bit more ammo around.

 

[Trux]

haven't read through all the posts..

well, yes, we can get used to the silly numbers and there are worse things to mind in this universe.

but i don't see *any* reason to display this huge numbers i have to say..

MA could as well just calculate with granular values in the background while still displaying 1 ammo = 1 pec.
i mean, wth, they calculate with 0.0001 pec ever since the beginning, yet never decided to display piles of pec-coins with "12.789K pec *10^-5", and i think that's good.

so why is there a need to do it with ammo??

as i said before, we'll get used to it, but isn't it just emberrasing? i mean, many of the new arrivals *did* play other games before.. is MA going for recordbreaking in "how many 'WTF?!' can you squeeze out of a newcomer on the first day" ?

 

[Kpeters]

It seems silly to use such large number for ammo, but it hardly gets me pissed. I can hardly imagine what a cloud in the sky must do for you.

That would depend On the type of cloud

 

[Xandra]

Hi,

It also creates opportunity for FPC to design a new layer of really cheap-to-use noob weapon [...]

Hmmm, full teams of nOObs then, having epic battles with those terrific Snable Male Youngs? Using those new guns with just 5 new ammo usage, doing 0.04 dam with a full, maxed hit? So 500 hits are required? Sounds marvellous! ;-))

[...] when the new Planet Calypso introduction comes in the spring.

Huh? Did I miss something?

Have fun!

 

[aia]

Hmmm, full teams of nOObs then, having epic battles with those terrific Snable Male Youngs? Using those new guns with just 5 new ammo usage, doing 0.04 dam with a full, maxed hit? So 500 hits are required? Sounds marvellous! ;-))

i guess a catch is that there isn't any place like the vu 9 Atlas Haven, with those nice spawns located near a tp; exos/daikibas/chirpy/turp at atlas heaven s, snables bewtween atlas haven and atlas n and kerberos east of atlas haven.

The only snable spawn I know of r4ight now is south of argus and it's a bit off for beginners and it's probably easisly overhunted. There used to be a decent spawn at aloode but it feels too thin.

 

[Etopia]

Huh? Did I miss something?

FPC is supose to make something for noob in spring , to help them understand and enjoy better the game at the beginning...probably an area with very low hp mobs , where you hunt with low amo consuming weapon...

 

[aia]

probably an area with very low hp mobs , where you hunt with low amo consuming weapon...

Gazonks?

It would be fun seeing one (it was was before my time)

 

[Avery Howell]

Yep- it sucks. Hard to follow and always run out of ammo either faster than before or because havent brought enough- guess that as the implimented it - it will stay regardless of what the community feels tho

 

[Lavawalker]

Yep- it sucks. Hard to follow and always run out of ammo either faster than before or because havent brought enough- guess that as the implimented it - it will stay regardless of what the community feels tho

I think if they could display the ammo divided by 1000 and then if you hover over it, it will give you the exact amount you have as a hover over caption ?

idk, numbers have never been a problem here.
I voted I don't care I like big numbers

Especially on a pay cheque