Gauntlet - > vixen/wolf on arkadia? -> portal guardian for fulleren? Boars for plates? Maybe tide claw for bone-in-meat and focus lens tide claw probably not enough MU at all? khaffash small ones for tinctures, khaffash also drops lvl2 blp rifles so you can get blp skills for BPS 1X1, decent with 8p amp, LP-15 with 104 is probably one of the best cheap armatrix farm weapon for mobs less than 500 hp, 104 is cheap and fits lp-15 almost perfectly, its foolish to use rifles as the markup gets very dumb, pistol is cheaper and easier to breakeven with,lasts for around 1k shots longer too, max armatrix weapon i would use is BP-25 maybe BP-45 with beast/dante to have best gun/amp ratio meaning fits amp well. and end it there as markup gets too high, i dont like to pay markup even you get some extra eff. 1800 ped cycled with bp-45 + dante, costs 20 ped MU, thats bit over 1% extra, so eats the eff bonus. Good dps tho. I would not pau gun MU butt get an UL mindforce chip to save money, and get extra dpp, even tho less dps. probably good idea to skill up some mindforce for 500+ mobs so you can get to 80 damage chips with alpha amp and later UL combu 6, kinetic 8 with delta, 3.2 dpp weapons, delta/gamma amps L-amplifier delta has 6.9 dpp and gamma 5.8 so i am guessing MF amps are the same, lasts for 50k hits, MF delta = 50k hits with 6.3 dpp, but they also have 2% life leech so dont even need fap for some mobs, as its enough.. Kinetic 8 L is 53 dps lasts for 11k hits, high damage slow, so with delta you can cycle alot of peds before it breaks, with -20% implant and extender, much better than armatrix as armas last for 6-8k.UL version that can be bought for less than 1k, Kinetic 5, Combu 6 with alpha is nice too for like 500 ped but not 3.2 dpp. Also blades like Hero, philo,dehera, aakas is like 1200 ped with amp, good UL weapons to save peds and use as a finisher and max defenses with matrix. Maybe good idea to buy IV amp and use LB-10 to skill up to Dehera, khorum/leoi best to skill for aakas? -> neomex/chimera? ->Duhol/thawr for tinctures? myridian/caperon/marcimex -> daudaormur/enslaved daudaormur -> broods for mutated bone? Rest of mobs can be skipped trash for bad MU? Maybe miner bot for safety system, heat sink, nano adjuster and trooper for weapon grip and robot filter for crafts and chance for good UL? Probably smartest to finish best MU codexes ingame first. Actually you should repeat these only. Best items help more than attributes, cant get best items without money. So repeat MU until best items, and after that you can waste peds for attributes.
Feff pitt for daily tokens, i dont seem to lose there much, save those for lc-60/predators later on for 3.2 dpp weapon for bosses etc. Bonus: if you have 100k peds to put ingame with macro keyboard, do mayhem AFK with macro that spams interact with autoloot pet with gun that lasts for 5 hours nonstop, get coins, i calculated it rougly would cost like 80k ped in losses with 95% return to get over 100k tokens, might be off here, but you get some back from L mayhem items and boxes, you should open your own boxes so not deposit 100k ped right away, so you get that back as a triple?, if you sell nano mayhem for 400k if you do that for a year or so hardcore, so you can play for free with that money.
Imk2 is 1 second reload, shooting that nonstop that is impossible 24/7 for 30 days would cost 395 409 peds and you would lose 2-5%~, you lose 18 770(5%) peds per mayhem around, but would produce maybe 25k+k tokens? In reality it would cost less because you cant hunt that much, So for 5 mayhems to get nano blade, would be 100k tt loss 25+k tokens is probably much less that you would actually get as some guy i knew got 18k? He said, from pretty much morning to evening he did it, he estimated he used 250k peds. You could do it afk for 5 hours more every day with keyboard macro when you go to bed. So 4-5 mayhems would be mod nanoblade, for a super discount of less than 100k peds, you would get some back with markups!! You dont need imk2, maybe like Kinetic 8/cryo 8 with delta, -20% implant and extender, cheap 3.2 dpp. Some over kill tho if you leave it afk :-/ If 100% eff = 7% of loot, you lose like 2.1% more with kinetic 8/cryo 8 than with imk2.
Kinetic 8 with delta would be 222588 peds for full month, less in reality, with estimated loss at 93% return of 207 006 so 15 581 tt loss per mayhem for full month of shooting, iam guessing thats atlaeast 60k coins in 4 months of mayhem, probably would be enough to get 60k+ tokens. Very safe estimation so you dont go broke trying this hehe. But i advise, you guys dont deposit unless its mayhem, and just afk it, to get that 2.0 mayhem weapon. i belive/guess is smartest move if you have lots of money to put in, i know here are ppl who have put like 10k€ ingame and have no good gear at all. So dont waste your deposit on trash móbs/foma, make it grow in mayhem instead. Zorra would be good mayhem grinder too with 3.2 dpp i think and cheap too. Zorra would probably if you can shoot for 12h a day, get over 25k coins per mayhem i am guessing. With zorra you can get those 50k token mayhem weapons with 2 mayhems? If you have afk macro and dont have work to do. So 50k token weapon would cost you around 30-40k peds tt, less with markup, instead of 100k peds. I heard keyboard macros are allowed, so just you can free yourself more time for other things if you do it, maybe do some world of warcraft raiding with friends while afk hunting on laptop? Maybe some final fantasy, star ocean or stardew valley?
Thats fun challenge, and shows how to do quality content for players.
More dps, more tokens, less mayhems for 100k token items, more markup.
I advice not to buy those super expensive mayhem weapons, just grind em yourself somehow if you have time! Focus on MU mobs, mining, crafting only meanwhile. Price might go down alot of alot if ppl with time starts to farm mayhem with full power.
All the MU mobs i know in HP order, maybe start from those codexes and mine and craft? :-D Get high tier rate f105 and start tiering so you can have tier10 finder that can find redulite and good stuff with finder that you can fix so you dont have to buy L ones until alot later if needed? Depth enhancers are also good to craft yourself, you also get lots of residue from it for other crafts, make and sell those lvl1-2 enhancers you can make, materials costs nothing and MU is nice. Mine -> Shinook north = Alicen, garcen, belkar, devils, putty. Sand king island is light liquid, devils, garcen, belkar, ares, Argus E pvp, south west = Garcen, pyrite, iron, nexus, melchi, oil, lyst, Oil rig pvp = Pyrite, belkar, erdorium, fire root, henren, i think that pretty much gives you all ores you need for crafting with good avg markup? If your at toulan, you can mine nawa, putty, qas at al nahir snow mountain for decent avg MU. Good idea to have couple mining days a week with good avg MU to get some cost of playing down, and get those twin peaks mining missions done so you get to redulite and all that good stuff eventually. There are probably better mining places than i know, but those have been pretty nice, all of em seems to be better than any mobs i have found, with my luck. :-D Mine more than hunt if your poor, you probably make more peds with mining/and later crafting than with hunting. Some ppl say you need to run 110 meters before next probe, but i noticed you can find many claims in same area, so if i get claim close to where i dropped my probe, i will throw another one, until i find none, so i just autotool, and throw probes until i find no deposits, makes it faster. I just tt all the junk ores when i dont have much peds, like less than 104%, so i can mine faster for good stuff. Maybe start mining with rookie at rocktropia while doing vixens near parking lot for alternative and belkar, until you get skills for f105, then do better places.
Cheapest best on armor, is probably to first buy like serpent scale/5b and slab em on to harrier/pixie -> atlas and later on to martial L/Boar/tiger parts that are seem to be less than 110% from auction. You can mix those armor parts to get cheap set. Also i found out if you get lucky, and get 5k+ hof, and see someone looting adj fap, buy it, 3k~ to reduce healing cost by half and you can start doing fap jobs, some ppl likes fappers and tip well, lets em shoot nonstop. Heart VI cyrene mission is also cheap to do, 18 heal per pec that fap is. No need expensive UL set, get zorra, adj fap first, to reducee def costs. All those mobs listed will be pretty much finished before they reach you with zorra hk + delta, unless you do big maturity, not sure if its even good idea to ever do those.
Get ep1 BP, do monria engineering daily, almost free to do, Start making 4p 4b amps rk-0, arma10's and later your own mining amps for skills first? Dont bother with armors, if you have lots of peds, you can take all iron and lyst to next island and spam settler there to try to get apocalypse/aegis with em, if you get those, thats good armor to craft. Only make 2 of each items in auction at the time, so you dont flood auction, have em laying around. Make gun amps and weapons, skill mindforce to maybe get kinetic 5/alpha, 3.00 dpp as it lasts like 14k ped per amp, or just stick to L until 3.2 dpp chip pops up you can afford. later maybe cheap combu 6, kinetic 8 with gamma/delta so you dont have to pay much MU for weapon anymore and get 3.2 dpp weapons 6% less ammo cost than armatrix, so 6% more rare loot/hof rolls events per ped. Can throw those other guns to trash gun with bad dpp with 2-3k markups. Leoi/dehera for finisher, and skill for aakas, cheap good finisher blade to get some melee skills, slap matrix on it to cap defensive stats when mobs are close. ;-) Cryo 8 UL is 3.2 dpp with 60 dps and then Maybe buy Zorra if you hof for 67 dps 3.2 dpp weapon? Martial probably is enough for all decent mobs ingame with right plate and vigi/mah'ketta for bots. Regen 5/6 is enough healing. Cheapest option with enough dps for alot of mobs, you have 100 dps and less risk in a team of 2, with those weapons, so plenty.
I would probably wait with crafting until you get 1-2k ped hof to have peds to stock up on ores, parts and such.
Oh and i realized team hunting is something you guys might wanna think of, its more mobs killed for less peds, so you have greater chance to loot something for less money, no defense costs, so thats like -1-5% total costs, so you might actually see something rare drop if you team hunt alot, so that might reduce cost of playing on hunting in the end alot. So maybe its good idea to always team hunt with max team? I noticed 600 ped can be eaten in few days on 600 hp mobs, so might be good idea, if you play with 20$ month or f2p, to always team hunt mobs that has over 400 hp in team of 2-3 to get better odds. Sharing is caring, not losing. ;-)
If you look at hunting logs you see, that for example on ardoje's setup he has got 93% back pretty steadily for 600k+ hunted, so he needs 107% avg mu from mob to breakeven. Hofs are set up so they are so rare, you will eventually lose on tt with those too on long run, i chatted with person 10 mil cycled and 98% return 200k ped tt down, with best stuff, i am sure that contains alot of big hofs, many ppl think they can tt profit if they win a hof, but on long run that is not so, unless you have a crazy win streak, not sure if you can have one., anyways he needs to sell you guys 200k ped worth of markup to keep playing, pretty brutal i think, how many guys can sell that much in the end? So with best stuff you need like 103-104 to profit on long run. Stick to the markup, dont wander off, else you pay for it. Maybe only hunt crap mobs in a team so you minimize risk and kill alot, so you have chance to get those rares you need to make it worth? Many ppl grind attributes and codex, but those skills wont help you, if you only stick to markup mob and breakeven you get alot more skills than hunt few days, get codex rank and get broke, with markup mob you can keep at it for days, get skills steadily, so dont go into codex madness. You get more skills probably hunting vixen for a month, than hunting atrox for a week. Vixen gives profit, atrox dont. Fun fact: Tameable mobs with adj boiga is best dpp setups as you can tame em, and get 1 pec pet. Still sucks without markup tho. Only pay for 50% damage, get smaller loots, but its shrapnel anyways, we are after rare loot rolls here not big loots. Only rare loots sold to other people enables us to keep going without heavy losses.
Thats all the wisdom i have. Costed me so far like over 4000€ to gather since starting 2005. Guessing you can save alot of peds with this info. Good luck!
Did MF delta tests. 100 shots = 0.02 pec decay so 10 peds = 50 000 shots and deals 2850000 damage with 0.0898 ammo burn thats 4490 + 10 decay = 4500 ped cost for 50k hits
2850 000 / 4500 =
633.333 / 100
= 6.3 damage/pec? Is this right? So bit less than L-delta, thats at 6.9 dpp
You can cycle 18459.5 ped with kinetic 8 before 1 amp breaks.
You could make peds before when having high dpp, but they placed a mechanism into loot that does not let you ever win by tt, I know some ppl have been hunting with around 5 dpp, without being able to make tt profit, so that proves it, but dpp still affects so, you get more rare loot events per ped i am hoping atleast, hope thats not tied to ped spend also. So even if you get those nice big hofs, you eventually just get your own moneys back on long run, no tt profit unless you hunt snables, and join for 100k sand king with swine-deluxe, and get back to snables and never up your game, because eventually the odds are so, with the 93-95% tt return, it will eat all you have, bit by bit, so dpp is still good stat for more rare item rolls(markup) per ped.
I deposit 100€ month, and still i am struggling, i probably would do better if i mined alot more, but i just risk it on hunting too big mobs, and dont get those rares enough, so i get drained. Good lucks
Edit: if someone learns how these bonus loots work? It might be in some cases be better to use L weapon that gives best bonus on mob than UL weapons thats not the best.
