They are getting more and more shady all the time. If you put thousands of dollars in you should be able to walk off and come back 5 years from now and log on with nothing to worry about. If you want to get the most return possible when it comes time to quit after thousands of dollars invested you should be able to optimize that return as well...
This whole thing is total bs
nice try, but lets break down this support request.
Firstly, you dont mention to buy an entire avatar. Just ped, inventory and skills.
So your support quote has nothing to do with selling a complete avatar.
And the answer from support only talks about items. Again they dont give you a card blanche to sell an entire avatar.
So what exactly is the point of this post?
The support says ok to the sale of ped/inventroy/skills but support say also that they cant take any responsiblety because there is no way for us to know what the arrangements in real life.
Support says also that if something goes wrong in this real life arrangements that they can only take recorded your accepting his items without paying anything.
So to sell all is ok. but if anything goes wrong in the sale MA can only record what happends in the game and not real life.
I know only one thing, I have twice tried to sell my avat seriously both times have MA rewritten on or added elements in its EULA within a few days concerning questions about the sale of avatars.
Just one letter from a avatar to MA support ( have more).
Avatars Namne
Hi
I have been offered to buy the ped/inventroy/skills from a friend (with gold card)
Since he lives very close to me he would simply come home to me and we start eu on 2 different computers.
We then trade his posessions and I pay him irl.
Is there any problem with that? I dont want to get bannes so I thought I better ask first.
Answer:
Hi,
Since there is no way for us to know what the arrangements in real life are we can not be responsible if anything goes wrong.
If later on this person accuses you of not fullfilling your part of the trade, since our records will have only recorded your accepting his items without paying anything we would have to lock your account while we investigate.
It is entirely up to you how you want to conduct this acquisiton of items.
Kind regards,
Myriam | Planet Calypso Support
This letter says its ok but MA dont take the responsiblety.
jesus christ what is this shitshow
We can make this very easy then.
Ask a lawyer or send it in to college law students
If what they said doesnt comply with US laws we do this
Sell our avatar's based on our laws,
If the account gets suspended refund the buyers
Then Go to:
Federal Bureau of Investigation Internet Crime Complaint Center
https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
And tell them what happened and that Entropia Universe ToS is not in compliance with United States law
That will mean that they cannot operate in the US
After that hire one of those "We dont get paid unless you get paid lawyers"
Show up to court a few times, and get paid for our time.
We have this entire thread and everyone in it that they do not comply with US laws. Easy Pezzy
We can make this very easy then.
Ask a lawyer or send it in to college law students
If what they said doesnt comply with US laws we do this
Sell our avatar's based on our laws,
If the account gets suspended refund the buyers
Then Go to:
Federal Bureau of Investigation Internet Crime Complaint Center
https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
And tell them what happened and that Entropia Universe ToS is not in compliance with United States law
That will mean that they cannot operate in the US
After that hire one of those "We dont get paid unless you get paid lawyers"
Show up to court a few times, and get paid for our time.
We have this entire thread and everyone in it that they do not comply with US laws. Easy Pezzy
And tell them what happened and that Entropia Universe ToS is not in compliance with United States law
That will mean that they cannot operate in the US
you will not be allowed to withdrawal
Many off that poker games still available in europeJust like many Poker games that you used to could play in the US now you cant.
But if i want to give my avatar to a other player in the game it has to be ok., nothing about it in EULA.
My real issue is some people are acting like selling your avatar is like selling an item. To me its more like selling yourself, you trust there is a person behind that avatar and each time it is the same person. It is an identity, one that builds trust and friendships. It is illegal to sell your identity in real life, giving someone your state ID is illegal in most countries and can end up with massive jail time.
If you want to sell your skills, petition MA to increase ESI drop rate or improve the viability of the chipping system. We should never be unsure of who is playing what avatar as that only decreases the trust we have in the system.
My real issue is some people are acting like selling your avatar is like selling an item. To me its more like selling yourself, you trust there is a person behind that avatar and each time it is the same person. It is an identity, one that builds trust and friendships. It is illegal to sell your identity in real life, giving someone your state ID is illegal in most countries and can end up with massive jail time.
My real issue is some people are acting like selling your avatar is like selling an item. To me its more like selling yourself, you trust there is a person behind that avatar and each time it is the same person. It is an identity, one that builds trust and friendships. It is illegal to sell your identity in real life, giving someone your state ID is illegal in most countries and can end up with massive jail time.
If you want to sell your skills, petition MA to increase ESI drop rate or improve the viability of the chipping system. We should never be unsure of who is playing what avatar as that only decreases the trust we have in the system.
So youre not happy with the amount you get for your skills so all is terrible and you would like to see the game destroyed? How freaking egocentric is that?!?!S
Ive already got all my money out all I need to do now is sell my ava. Even with over 200,000 skills the best I could get is $500 USD by the time you take ESI's into account. But I could get 3 times that to sell the ava.
They want to shit all over there customers and make bs shady as hell rules just to make there bottom-line a little better then the customers have the right to fight back against such *screw our players over* actions.
They just keep getting worse and worse its getting out of hand... Its about time they found out there are consequences for conducting unethical business practices with no regard for there customer.
MA do not support selling avatar, but cut ESI drop rates, so we cant sell skills too... HERE you can see how much MA decreased ESI drop during last years.
I may be wrong, but I think you'll find this is not an MA Issue.
The ESI Drop rate slows due to them sitting in peoples Storage.
I may be wrong, but I think you'll find this is not an MA Issue.
The ESI Drop rate slows due to them sitting in peoples Storage.
if they see this they should drop alot more then poeple whould stop hording and increasing the mu if they buy what drop and still do the same keep on droping
if they see this they should drop alot more then poeple whould stop hording and increasing the mu if they buy what drop and still do the same keep on droping