Question: Percetange of claims found(hit rate)

[Agg]

Hello,

Is the % of claims found and TT return working as intended for mining planetside profession after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026 ?

@Socrates|Mindark
@Nanashana
@Ludvig|MindArk

Thank you.

 

[James Jimbo Linehan]

I can attest to this exact same data on hit rate. Other days too since VU but yesterday again 600 double drops 27% enmatter 28% ore hit rate aka claim rate. Horrendous TT return of 79%. While return can fluctuate hit rate doesn't very often. But every single time being low with higher losses something does seem broken. Can we get this checked just to see if it is intended please? Especially with loot already having a confirmed problem the other day.

@Socrates|Mindark
@Ludvig|MindArk

 

[A-Bomb]

Oh so its just not me. Yeah i can attest to this as well.

 

[Heidi S]

My last 5 runs all of around 120+ double drops

Ore Enn
33% 34%
28% 29%
29% 35%
25% 31%
32% 37%

seems about normal, where are you mining? I've been moving around a lot more recently

 

[Kirgon]

i do not look at hitrate only on tt return. loot started to feel more "difficult" in november 2024 for me. It felt more difficult to get a good hr but tt return seemed still ok at the end but lower.

2026 so far started historically bad for me but i am kind of sure that it will recover again. But mining feels kind of anoying compared to the past but perhaps my expectation increased over time. 2025 broke my no hit record with as i remember around 44 drops with nothing xD trying different zones

--> comming from an unamped planetside miner

 

[Leeloo Miner]

All normal for me

Depth	Finder	HR	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
					2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
204,00	MD-10	30,33%	81,52%	96,26%	3,00%	26,33%	1,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
283,10	F-101	34,00%	94,66%	112,22%	5,00%	27,00%	2,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		27,00%	72,78%	86,47%	3,00%	23,00%	1,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
303,50	Z 5	22,00%	56,21%	66,16%	3,00%	19,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
347,30	F-102	30,48%	88,68%	108,04%	2,97%	26,77%	0,37%	0,00%	0,00%	0,37%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		32,00%	166,66%	179,95%	8,00%	22,67%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,33%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
373,10	MD-40	30,29%	103,36%	129,24%	7,69%	19,23%	1,92%	0,00%	0,48%	0,48%	0,00%	0,48%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		30,32%	96,97%	110,71%	9,04%	20,21%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
390,10	F-103	32,10%	89,25%	111,32%	6,25%	23,58%	1,70%	0,00%	0,28%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		31,25%	128,20%	146,04%	3,75%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
403,00	Z10	34,04%	90,04%	112,44%	5,59%	27,66%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,27%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,00%	70,62%	82,27%	2,00%	26,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
432,90	F-104	31,80%	113,55%	137,90%	3,07%	27,59%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,77%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,38%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,62%	99,33%	119,77%	3,26%	23,91%	0,72%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,36%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
497,50	F103+5	31,25%	116,80%	135,61%	3,75%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
657,50	F-104+7	29,00%	76,93%	97,49%	4,00%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
477,60	Z15	30,79%	85,70%	106,10%	3,97%	25,50%	0,66%	0,00%	0,00%	0,66%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		27,13%	80,23%	94,56%	4,04%	21,52%	1,12%	0,00%	0,22%	0,00%	0,00%	0,22%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
483,60	MD-40+4	33,00%	87,51%	104,17%	5,50%	25,50%	2,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
522,4	F-105	40,51%	138,11%	158,84%	5,06%	31,65%	1,27%	0,00%	0,00%	2,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		34,65%	209,13%	242,87%	6,93%	23,76%	0,99%	0,00%	0,00%	1,98%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,99%	0,00%	0,00%
		33,41%	116,36%	134,95%	4,38%	27,19%	1,15%	0,00%	0,00%	0,23%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,46%	0,00%	0,00%
582,1	F-106	26,43%	83,05%	110,49%	3,57%	22,14%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,60%	81,00%	100,90%	4,00%	22,40%	1,80%	0,00%	0,00%	0,40%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		29,56%	112,97%	139,09%	3,04%	25,41%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,55%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
668,7	F-106+2	31,82%	92,58%	107,96%	4,85%	26,06%	0,30%	0,00%	0,00%	0,30%	0,00%	0,30%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
741,81	F-105+6	31,30%	113,82%	134,75%	3,32%	26,87%	0,55%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%
		HitRate	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
		Average	Average	Average	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
		30,73%	101,70%	120,98%	4,52%	24,66%	0,75%	0,00%	0,13%	0,32%	0,00%	0,20%	0,01%	0,02%	0,05%	0,06%	0,00%	0,00%

 

[InKwL]

Since november I did see a change in my mining.
17.1.2026 at the restart aster Mayhem everything started like AGG say.
Not only HR stay at 27%, also the depth enhancers what it used to broke at 350 is now at 190....
The question is ..... The new mining or again a bug?

 

[Agg]

My last 5 runs all of around 120+ double drops

Ore Enn
33% 34%
28% 29%
29% 35%
25% 31%
32% 37%

seems about normal, where are you mining? I've been moving around a lot more recently

All normal for me

Depth	Finder	HR	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
					2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
204,00	MD-10	30,33%	81,52%	96,26%	3,00%	26,33%	1,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
283,10	F-101	34,00%	94,66%	112,22%	5,00%	27,00%	2,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		27,00%	72,78%	86,47%	3,00%	23,00%	1,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
303,50	Z 5	22,00%	56,21%	66,16%	3,00%	19,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
347,30	F-102	30,48%	88,68%	108,04%	2,97%	26,77%	0,37%	0,00%	0,00%	0,37%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		32,00%	166,66%	179,95%	8,00%	22,67%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,33%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
373,10	MD-40	30,29%	103,36%	129,24%	7,69%	19,23%	1,92%	0,00%	0,48%	0,48%	0,00%	0,48%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		30,32%	96,97%	110,71%	9,04%	20,21%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
390,10	F-103	32,10%	89,25%	111,32%	6,25%	23,58%	1,70%	0,00%	0,28%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		31,25%	128,20%	146,04%	3,75%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
403,00	Z10	34,04%	90,04%	112,44%	5,59%	27,66%	0,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,27%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,00%	70,62%	82,27%	2,00%	26,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
432,90	F-104	31,80%	113,55%	137,90%	3,07%	27,59%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,77%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,38%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,62%	99,33%	119,77%	3,26%	23,91%	0,72%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,36%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
497,50	F103+5	31,25%	116,80%	135,61%	3,75%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	1,25%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
657,50	F-104+7	29,00%	76,93%	97,49%	4,00%	25,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
477,60	Z15	30,79%	85,70%	106,10%	3,97%	25,50%	0,66%	0,00%	0,00%	0,66%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		27,13%	80,23%	94,56%	4,04%	21,52%	1,12%	0,00%	0,22%	0,00%	0,00%	0,22%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
483,60	MD-40+4	33,00%	87,51%	104,17%	5,50%	25,50%	2,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
522,4	F-105	40,51%	138,11%	158,84%	5,06%	31,65%	1,27%	0,00%	0,00%	2,53%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		34,65%	209,13%	242,87%	6,93%	23,76%	0,99%	0,00%	0,00%	1,98%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,99%	0,00%	0,00%
		33,41%	116,36%	134,95%	4,38%	27,19%	1,15%	0,00%	0,00%	0,23%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,46%	0,00%	0,00%
582,1	F-106	26,43%	83,05%	110,49%	3,57%	22,14%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,36%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		28,60%	81,00%	100,90%	4,00%	22,40%	1,80%	0,00%	0,00%	0,40%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
		29,56%	112,97%	139,09%	3,04%	25,41%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,55%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
668,7	F-106+2	31,82%	92,58%	107,96%	4,85%	26,06%	0,30%	0,00%	0,00%	0,30%	0,00%	0,30%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
741,81	F-105+6	31,30%	113,82%	134,75%	3,32%	26,87%	0,55%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%
		HitRate	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
		Average	Average	Average	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
		30,73%	101,70%	120,98%	4,52%	24,66%	0,75%	0,00%	0,13%	0,32%	0,00%	0,20%	0,01%	0,02%	0,05%	0,06%	0,00%	0,00%

Are those after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026?

 

[Leeloo Miner]

Are those after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026?

Results since 1-1-2026 wit 5-6K drops but I didn't noticed any changes since 27-1-2026 so far.

All results are unamped as always.

1 thing I noticed is that the depth enh brake a tidy bit more when I use over T5

 

[Agg]

Results since 1-1-2026 wit 5-6K drops but I didn't noticed any changes since 27-1-2026 so far.

All results are unamped as always.

1 thing I noticed is that the depth enh brake a tidy bit more when I use over T5

My results have changed drastically after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026.

 

[Leeloo Miner]

My results have changed drastically after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026

Maybe they changed amped?

Less TT return? Less MU?

Less HR can hurt a lot going from 30% to 28%? Smaller claims?

 

[Leeloo Miner]

Since november I did see a change in my mining.
17.1.2026 at the restart aster Mayhem everything started like AGG say.
Not only HR stay at 27%, also the depth enhancers what it used to broke at 350 is now at 190....
The question is ..... The new mining or again a bug?

As for the depth enh ...

With my 105+6 depth, costs are now 6,76% where it never was higher than 4,87% so I doubt I'll tier it up to T7, since it will be cheaper to use a TM

 

[Agg]

Maybe they changed amped?

Less TT return? Less MU?

Less HR can hurt a lot going from 30% to 28%? Smaller claims?

The only thing that I've noticed being different in my results is hit rate and as a consequence TT return after VU 19.13.1 - 27.01.2026 . It hurts really a lot with [Mayhem Ziplex P50] and [Terra Amp 5 Gold Rush].Anything else than hit rate looks the same. Seems like a penalty(like staying without moving and just drop) which I am not.

 

[James Jimbo Linehan]

Maybe they changed amped?

Less TT return? Less MU?

Less HR can hurt a lot going from 30% to 28%? Smaller claims?

Can you check since VU and combine all of them and get % total or % for ore/enmatter seperate? And abom and Ink if u have it too

 

[BBpunisher]

if loot is too good they shut the servers down. If loot is poor....carry on!

 

[Leeloo Miner]

Can you check since VU and combine all of them and get % total or % for ore/enmatter seperate? And abom and Ink if u have it too

Sure, just a sec
Enmatter only after 27-1-2026

F-104 HR 30% TT 140,27%
MD-40 +4 HR 33% TT 86,32%
F-103+5 HR 31% TT 120,83%
F-105 HR 41% TT 108,64%
F-106 HR 32,73% TT 223,07%
F-104+7 HR 25% TT 81,48%
F-106+2 HR 28% TT 73,02 %

EDIT : At the end of the month I'll put my results in my mining log. That way I can compare easy but so far its been very stable for me.

 

[Leeloo Miner]

Today I decided to do some testing about the HR and returns

As I mine mostly for high MU's (150% or higher) with the TM4 today, I was getting less high mu's and more fillers to start with ...

The most important thing for me at the moment is the comparison between the F-105+6 and the TM4 (bought a cheap 1 for 110,67% cause I had no need to use depth enh for now), both of which are at the same depth of 741.

I was shocked by the results, but I need to do more drops today to be able to make a proper comparison.

If this continues I might tier up my F-105 to tier 7

741,3	TM 4	8,23%	24,00%	59,84%	70,07%	4,00%	20,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
741,81	F-105+6	6,76%	31,30%	113,82%	134,75%	3,32%	26,87%	0,55%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%
		Cost / drop	HitRate	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
			Average	Average	Average	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15

 

[krazykat]

My weekly returns for the last 7 weeks (mining on Aris. F-105 unamped) All 200 ped/day double drop runs.
ore enmatter
30% 31%
32% 31%
31% 32%
35% 30%
32% 31%
29% 30%
27% 28%
The last two weeks might be just a short term downturn.

 

[mczimi]

I can also add that there is something off either there is change to the mining returns or there is a bug. Based on my results it started from 17.01.2026, over 10% drop in tt return and HR is 27-28%.

 

[Agg]

Today I decided to do some testing about the HR and returns

As I mine mostly for high MU's (150% or higher) with the TM4 today, I was getting less high mu's and more fillers to start with ...

The most important thing for me at the moment is the comparison between the F-105+6 and the TM4 (bought a cheap 1 for 110,67% cause I had no need to use depth enh for now), both of which are at the same depth of 741.

I was shocked by the results, but I need to do more drops today to be able to make a proper comparison.

If this continues I might tier up my F-105 to tier 7

741,3	TM 4	8,23%	24,00%	59,84%	70,07%	4,00%	20,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%
741,81	F-105+6	6,76%	31,30%	113,82%	134,75%	3,32%	26,87%	0,55%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,28%	0,00%	0,00%
		Cost / drop	HitRate	TT return	TT +%	Tiny	VP	Poor	Small	Modest	Average	Medium	Ample	Consid	Sizable	Large	Abun	Great	Substantial
			Average	Average	Average	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15

So combined you have: hit rate average 27.65% with TT return 86.83%.

My weekly returns for the last 7 weeks (mining on Aris. F-105 unamped) All 200 ped/day double drop runs.
ore enmatter
30% 31%
32% 31%
31% 32%
35% 30%
32% 31%
29% 30%
27% 28%
The last two weeks might be just a short term downturn.

I can't change the title.I've noticed myself and speaking only after 27.01.2027. I am assuming the last one is the most recent and I can already see an avg of 27.5%.

I am used to ups and downs on TT return.I am an daily grinder and I have been in all situations multiple times.In the recent history I've never had so flat and down hit rate % and with it TT return.I could have one,two days of bad hit rate but eventually would go up in thounsands of drops.
Planetside mining with thounsands of drops sample:
From 17.01.2026 to 26.01.2026: 30.62% hit rate and 98.2% TT return (probes+finder+amp decay)
From 27.01.2026 to 03.02.2026: 28.17%hit rate and 91.12% TT return (probes+finder+amp decay)
I didn't change anything, only my results have changed.
I am only asking if it's working as intended, especialy after nusul incident.

 

[A-Bomb]

So combined you have: hit rate average 27.65% with TT return 86.83%.


I can't change the title.I've noticed myself and speaking only after 27.01.2027. I am assuming the last one is the most recent and I can already see an avg of 27.5%.

I am used to ups and downs on TT return.I am an daily grinder and I have been in all situations multiple times.In the recent history I've never had so flat and down hit rate % and with it TT return.I could have one,two days of bad hit rate but eventually would go up in thounsands of drops.
Planetside mining with thounsands of drops sample:
From 17.01.2026 to 26.01.2026: 30.62% hit rate and 98.2% TT return (probes+finder decay)
From 27.01.2026 to 03.02.2026: 28.17%hit rate and 91.12% TT return (probes+finder decay)
I didn't change anything, only my results have changed.
I am only asking if it's working as intended, especialy after nusul incident.

I have very similar numbers. In december i had 97,77% and now im at 91,74%. Another thing i have noted, because it happens so often, is that i at least once a run get 20 nrf in a row. There are also times i have had 30 in a row. Nothing i havent seen before but now its all the time since the last few weeks.

R4tt3xx is gonna have a field day with this thread.

 

[Leeloo Miner]

So combined you have: hit rate average 27.65% with TT return 86.83%.

Yes, but that is only a small sample so I'm following this up and will see where it goes.

Maybe they changed it in more volatile?

 

[Leeloo Miner]

I have very similar numbers. In december i had 97,77% and now im at 91,74%. Another thing i have noted because it happens so often is that i at least once a run get 20 nrf in a row. There are also times i have had 30 in a row. Nothing i havent seen before but now its all the time since the last few weeks.

I see that happening also, but mostly a small multi appears after the 20-30 NRF.

 

[A-Bomb]

I see that happening also, but mostly a small multi appears after the 20-30 NRF.

Then it would be fine and thats kinda how it always felt it used to be. Not any more tho. I can rack up 4-5 50-60% runs with sometimes as low as 17% hit rate and each run being 1k. So it gets really expensive really quick.

 

[Agg]

Yes, but that is only a small sample so I'm following this up and will see where it goes.

Maybe they changed it in more volatile?

That was my initial thought but I didn't notice different claim sizes(multipliers) compared to before.

 

[kingofaces]

28% ± a couple percent is where most people typically tend to get long-term averages. Even over a few k drops, each person's averages are still going to bounce around. That's what a confidence interval helps describe, and you can check that with online calculators.

If for instance you had a 28% hit rate over 3000 drops (840 claims), the 95% confidence interval would be 0.2640 to 0.2964. That means if you repeated the same "run" of 3000 drops many times, you'd expect 95% of the averages to fall within a 26.4 to 29.6% range. That's also estimating that the "true" average of that population, or hit rate on MA's side for the areas you mined, is somewhere in that interval with 95% confidence. If you try to bump it up to 99% confidence, the interval actually widens and you need a lot more samples to further decrease that interval to get an estimate of what the true average would be if sampled say 100k times.

 

[InKwL]

28% ± a couple percent is where most people typically tend to get long-term averages. Even over a few k drops, each person's averages are still going to bounce around. That's what a confidence interval helps describe, and you can check that with online calculators.

If for instance you had a 28% hit rate over 3000 drops (840 claims), the 95% confidence interval would be 0.2640 to 0.2964. That means if you repeated the same "run" of 3000 drops many times, you'd expect 95% of the averages to fall within a 26.4 to 29.6% range. That's also estimating that the "true" average of that population, or hit rate on MA's side for the areas you mined, is somewhere in that interval with 95% confidence. If you try to bump it up to 99% confidence, the interval actually widens and you need a lot more samples to further decrease that interval to get an estimate of what the true average would be if sampled say 100k times.

I understand your point. But here are we speaking about something else. Last VU did give almost to everyone same HR . Is not that only a few have this problem. Something is changed. Maybe is a bug like was on space mining or maybe this is the new sistem for planet-side mining. That is what we are asking right now.

 

[James Jimbo Linehan]

Yesterday again same except 1% better return @ 80% on a lot of loot events and cycle triple dropping something is totally out whack for sure.. id count it as crap luck something I don't think I've actually ever experienced on this game to date for even 2 days in a row where I mine and for how long, but many days now... da shit is broke. So happy I went back to mining perfect timing lol I'll keep at it tho see if they even plan on paying a small portion of this back or end up with a 50% HR day to average it out and write it here

 

[A-Bomb]

@Ludvig|MindArk @Socrates|Mindark

I get it, you cant go around and disclose how the sauce is made, but it would be nice if you could say something because:

1. After Socrates showed live on twitch that they can put loot in mobs on the fly where after the warlock was killed, during the robot event at Lahar, it had the new items he wanted to show off was looted and he confidently asked "did anyone get anyting special?" and someone replied with a new amp, i believe it was, and someone with something else. This shows its not a closed automated system.

2. After this last loot debacle with the Nusul showing either a clear flaw in the system, which i then can imagine could swing both ways, or that the system is manipulated in real time... not unlike the planted loot i mentioned. I dont know. But its not inspiring confidence.

3. The fact now several people with credibility voice the same concern.

So at the very least just tell us nothing was changed and that the ones who are confused right now are just experiencing wild variance right now. And if you did, or do, change how returns work you should state this. Not how it works but that it was "reworked" at the minimum.

 

[Contract CH Hunter]

I have very similar numbers. In december i had 97,77% and now im at 91,74%. Another thing i have noted, because it happens so often, is that i at least once a run get 20 nrf in a row. There are also times i have had 30 in a row. Nothing i havent seen before but now its all the time since the last few weeks.

R4tt3xx is gonna have a field day with this thread.

Wonder IF he's on "forced holiday" or something.