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Question: Percetange of claims found(hit rate)

Yes I can confirm, since the last update the hit rate is terrible, before the update I had like 95-105% tt returns, now due to the lower hit rate it gets around 80-85%. I stopped mining for now and I cycled thousands of PEDs per day.

Until this is fixed, no more mining from me.
 
It's good to know unamped too and give us more info to figure out what the hell is going on exactly. At least like 500 drops tho where average HR comes into play more often or add up from more time. I can't for the life of me figure out why it's not fixed yet tho. They ban bots finally after decades letting everyone know mining is open for business and more players can come back to a fairer more profit chance game. Then when people come back and get killed from it being broken code atm they leave and never return... how is this a smart move?
 
BBpunisher said:
Something is off. At least MA can now say mu is improving.
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Yes indeed, but where I used to get good mu , and I mean +150% mu resources like 15-20% in a run, that went down to getting only 5-8% so all this is done for a reason.
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Yes indeed, but where I used to get good mu , and I mean +150% mu resources like 15-20% in a run, that went down to getting only 5-8% so all this is done for a reason.
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Reason? This nerfed things regarding BP drop on Ark, mining fu**** up, the only result is that all players are losing PEDs, currently no profession is profitable for 95% playes, so they are just filling up their bank accounts with our PEDs.

So as almost all friends and also soc members (200+) are currently "pausing" with all standard cylce activites, because the returns are just criminal lol
 
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Kenjo said:
Reason? This nerfed things regarding BP drop on Ark, mining fu**** up, the only result is that all players are losing PEDs, currently no profession is profitable for 95% playes, so they are just filling up their bank accounts with our PEDs.

So as almost all friends and also soc members (200+) are currently "pausing" with all standard cylce activites, because the returns are just criminal lol
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On the other hand, MU's are finally going up, especially the more rare resources, so I'm not selling those yet and wait what the future will bring.

Just selling the cheap fillers but luckely I do not get those much.
 
Sorry, but what MU has gone up except redulite and such things, all the other things are lower MU than they were 3-4 months ago, especially the fillers, like oil, lyst, blausariam, iron etc.

I have a huge respect towards you because I learned from you a lot, from your posts and threads and thank you for the time and effort put into it, but we must be honest, mining isn't the same as it was few months ago.

Few months ago, I cycled around 10k daily, now I just mine for analytical purposes and as said before, instead of cycling 10k per day, I now cycle around 500-1000PEDs until the mining is fixed.

And belive me, MA will see what they did, I mean they already see 100% that 80% of the players just stopped with all standard activities, just look at the yt content, twitch streamers, other players post on this forum, we all noticed the difference and the money grab from MA, so we just stopped giving them PED. Because this nerf thing or whatever they did, it is just simply an equivalent of MA dunking their hands into our pocket.

It is NOT normal that suddently 90% of the players can't get the same returns as before. That's the end of the discussion. Those are facts, and that is something not worth discussing; it is a fact. So now we all wait to see how the MA will fuckup or fix things up.
 
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Kenjo said:
Sorry, but what MU has gone up except redulite and such things, all the other things are lower MU than they were 3-4 months ago, especially the fillers, like oil, lyst, blausariam, iron etc.

I have a huge respect towards you because I learned from you a lot, from your posts and threads and thank you for the time and effort put into it, but we must be honest, mining isn't the same as it was few months ago.

Few months ago, I cycled around 10k daily, now I just mine for analytical purposes and as said before, instead of cycling 10k per day, I now cycle around 500-1000PEDs until the mining is fixed.
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Thank you for the compliments :)

Redu even dropped for now and fillers like lyst, oil, blaus, etc ... keep going down because there is more and more of that in the returns.

Those with higher MU are going up, not going to give away many spoilers, but just check adoma, alferix, putty, and a few more :) and I'm guessing a few more will follow.

EDIT : there is also the fact that we have a lot less players than 10-20 years ago, so a lot less mining would be normal, if not, the prices go down like hell, and that's what happends if people keep mining like they used to.
 
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Leeloo Miner said:
Thank you for the compliments :)

Redu even dropped for now and fillers like lyst, oil, blaus, etc ... keep going down because there is more and more of that in the returns.

Those with higher MU are going up, not going to give away many spoilers, but just check adoma, alferix, putty, and a few more :) and I'm guessing a few more will follow.
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Yes, I agree with you, but getting the MU up on few resources doesn't help the miners and you know that.


The issue here is not the MU (I mean yes, but that is not the main issues here), the main issue here is that they nerfed the hit rate and that is confirmed through out the community (yt, twich, forum posts, soc chat, other player experiences) and I am just curious, how in the hell the person or persons who decided to do this expect that the player activity will increase? They are just putting a BIG hold on the PED cycling with this
 
Kenjo said:
Yes, I agree with you, but getting the MU up on few resources doesn't help the miners and you know that.


The issue here is not the MU (I mean yes, but that is not the main issues here), the main issue here is that they nerfed the hit rate and that is confirmed through out the community (yt, twich, forum posts, soc chat, other player experiences) and I am just curious, how in the hell the person or persons who decided to do this expect that the player activity will increase? They are just putting a BIG hold on the PED cycling with this
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MA has been talking about the BP clean up + introducing new BP's .

Untill then I stop or almost stop mining also and awaite new MU's and returns.
 
Leeloo Miner said:
MA has been talking about the BP clean up + introducing new BP's .

Untill then I stop or almost stop mining also and awaite new MU's and returns.
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@Ludvig|MindArk, I assume your info will be "We didn't touch anything, it is always the same"?

So all players confirming that you did something to mining are crazy?
 
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I am sure if Agg say its not correct there must be a mistake most people cant compare to his cycles funny to see some reactions :D
 
Kenjo said:
@Ludvig|MindArk, I assume your info will be "We didn't touch anything, it is always the same"?

So all players confirming that you did something to mining are crazy?
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It is sufficient to leave some players with "normal" hitrate, doesn`t mean it didn`t happen to the rest but good luck proving it.
Maybe it has something to do with getting people to move to space so making "regular" mining not worth it by "tweaking" the outcome for the hardcore crowd...it can be a multitude of reasons, even a regular "bug" like, if you have any mining related item on you, your hitrate is 50% of normal so yeah, we`re in the dark here.
We`ll see soon i guess what happens, i`ve also pulled the handbrake on spending but harm to the pedcard was already done
 
Entropia life stats say all we need to know. This is the indicator that I said that all my friends, soc mates stopped doing their standard cycling PED

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Not so smart move from MA (somebody would say that this is even idiotic)
 
Panther said:
It is sufficient to leave some players with "normal" hitrate, doesn`t mean it didn`t happen to the rest but good luck proving it.
Maybe it has something to do with getting people to move to space so making "regular" mining not worth it by "tweaking" the outcome for the hardcore crowd...it can be a multitude of reasons, even a regular "bug" like, if you have any mining related item on you, your hitrate is 50% of normal so yeah, we`re in the dark here.
We`ll see soon i guess what happens, i`ve also pulled the handbrake on spending but harm to the pedcard was already done
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Yes, they took a lot of PEDs without notifying about the change. Clasical theft, but as you said, gl proving it, because as in the last 20 years

"Our alghoritams gives everybody the same chance, bla bla bla"

Lets see if they continue with the "smart" moves lol
 
Yo guys did something change? Could anyone provide update please, thanks in advance.
 
I agree, all of my mining runs are between 70-80 tt return also. I paused mining for last two weeks. Absolutely trash hitrate and zero hofs.
 
Just look at the mining hoflist before you go mining, it is still pretty low ...

Only 1 person above 1K and all the rest under that ... ridicilous
 
well i dropped 20k peds i was at 98% return and then mutis stopped im down at 90% :D but i cant complan over all im fine.
 
Hard to tell yet but it seems to be back to some sort of "normal", let`s hope it lasts
 
I've only done a few runs since 27/01/26 and I've been dismissive of the idea something is off because 2 weeks or so of mining is not really a good measure but I'm consistantly getting mid 20% hit rate on ores and 30%+ for enns. Curently averageing 77% but honestly a single size 14 claim would fix that. Still getting multis unamped so I'm on the fence at the mo.
 
Probably the mining implant has consequences: more and faster miners, fewer resources in the pool, and a system that simply can’t adjust. I remember hunting with friends for a few hours on the same mob, it was dropping animal oil most of the time. Then it suddenly stopped, and for the next 10 hours it gave only shrapnel, not a single unit of animal oil. It really seems like even common loot is limited in the pool. It must be the same with mining, but since there’s no shrapnel equivalent, the system just gives NOTHING. I’ve seen this happen in mining before as well. It’s a really badly designed system. I doubt this is “dynamic loot”; I might be wrong, but I highly doubt it.

I’ve also had moments where I was losing my mind after seeing 20–30 drops with no claim outdoors, and 120+ indoors. That’s not fun, the volatility is way too high. Getting a HOF after hours of frustration doesn’t feel like a reward, because you’re mentally exhausted. Even if you hit something with good MU, you stop mining right after anyway, because that’s all you were hoping for.
 
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