Poll:Would YOU give up ATHs to spread the loot pool?

Would you give up ATHs to increase chances of globals, hofs and better return in general?


  • Total voters
    344
[Sorry Sparkz - tl;dr - you might have made the same points I have.]

As I have never received an ATH and probably never will I voted yes.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not one of those "wealth redistribution" kooks. I say that anyone who gets an ATH good on them - even the snooty ubers. You work hard, then you should be rewarded.

However, even though it is contradictory, I think that more HoFs, globals and somewhat more satisfying regular loots would benefit the game. I think having to keep track of the ATH's during regular periods to try to calculate better loot chances detracts from the game and puts newbs at a disadvantage.

Pure redistribution in my mind would have to eliminate HoFs (and maybe even globals) and I would definitely be against that.

While it's really cool for the ATH winner, the rest of the player base I think suffers -- ATHs are way to large for random loots.

And :rofl: again, I'll never get an ATH anyway. :D

/\

Aye keep in mind, the buffering of funds, how ever unthetical I feel it is personally, is also a balancing mechanism here in Entropia.

There are better ways to do it through the proper introduction of gearing and consumption mechanisms (with attached dependencies attributed to progression in the environment) which have been outlined in past concepts to help reduce the portion of what is withheld from the participant;

And still meeting or even growing the present day size of the fiscal short term investment portfolio through the better retention of their customers and their associated rates of participation.

ie. Maintaining retention of the client base over the long term and their participation rates (Duration and spend rate consistency) - Funds last longer to play with, participants do not perceive the service as gambling involving excessively large jackpots - Yet with *adequate* reduced ATH sizes are still present to provide the psychological benefit to maintain those customers who use the service to meet/satisfy these sorts of inner desires/thrills;

Without demotivating others, having them feel strongly that Entropia is gambling (a casino) and creating tension or divisions within the community as to perceived preferental treatment of some over others - Which all negatively impact the service providers business operations (revenue generation from x to y point in time) - This is also true for the internal economy and those involved in it with revenue generating assets and/or who provide a service to others, etc etc.

A larger fiscal investment portfolio earning a interest return total that is better than that procured from a diminishing client base (ie. Without having to regularly promote the service to get more replacement customers to maintain the equity in this investment portfolio through lack of retention or participation rate) will allow FPC & Platform MA to better ratio the division of investment profit between company revenue and the token % returned back to participant for having done so.


It is not such a nice system for the lower budget spenders over the short term while this mechanism accumulates funds to generate interest in the short term investment portfolio (To earn them extra revenue & I would assume with a portion of that earned interest also returned to yourself for your contribution ot the overall portfolio - keeping in mind the system is an accounting platform at the core);

But it is what we have today and what we need to live with, until changes come about - if they come ever come about that is. :dunno:

People can scream and shout, but it really won't change too much until things start to come tumbling around FPC & MAs ears as to the such.

There is big dollars involved for them (& ofc assuming that you get a portion of the earned interest back also), for you as the participant there is also additional funding returned.

They are in business to generate a profit at the end of the day, the problem is getting the balance right and seeing the future potential, rather than being clouded by next day 'on paper' outcomes in the choices they make.

If they continue to upset portions of the client base, this doesn't leave them much option than to further involve these methods to maintain their fiscal report earnings status 'on paper' as being a viable and stable business.

It is kind of scary when your start thinking it from the provider side of the equation. It is easy to do too much one time around and suffer a few or many after.

Then to do it again, without having remembered or analysed properly the impact of having done so previously - people in business easily lose themselves to printed on paper results without consideration of that which initially produced them - usually until it is too late, or upon realisation of the fragile slippery slope they have begun to travel.

From an investor's perspective > This is the area that scares me with MindArk (& FPC until they prove otherwise) - Lack of future impact & risk assessment leading to foolish (out of touch) decisions & undertaking/execution of processes.

I perceive it as a very sloppy operating enterprise, reactive rather than proactive in assessing the elements of their approach - And they continue to reflect this in the quality of work they do, how they do it, when they do it and how they go about improving it the next time around.

^^ This is what I am watching for the most with FPC's capacity and capability to proactively rectify itself as an operating financial entity (& co-operating partner) within the MindArk group of companies for a improved future.

With that said, I understand Marco is a Pinocchio CEO carved by the board of directors and given life as the CEO of FPC - Yet I personally feel given time and the opportunity (& understand without too harsh forgiveness by his client base - once improvement is seen after crashing the train a few times) that he will turn into a successful CEO. (A real one, not a wanna be with strings attached)
 
Last edited:
Nice Sparkz! Economy balancing actually occurred to me while writing my post!

ATH's might make balancing easier for MA|FPC - but I don't think the lack of ATH's would make balancing impossible.



/\

[EDIT] I have to disagree with your use of Pinnochio. Not because I'm a kiss-up (I'm not - ask Marco) but because I think that the corrupt and greedy Euro Union and their pseudo-laws must be taken into account. - \//\/\
 
Last edited:
[EDIT] I have to disagree with your use of Pinnochio. Not because I'm a kiss-up (I'm not - ask Marco) but because I think that the corrupt and greedy Euro Union and their pseudo-laws must be taken into account. - \//\/\

I should have clarified that to avoid confusion.

Pinnochio was used in reference to describe the 'to be real', but not quite there yet, entity.

Much like Pinnochio who was a wooden boy carved by his creator (father) who with the motivation and desire to become a real boy, did in the end after learning the lessons of real life (fictional playwrite) as the story goes ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio

I meant it in terms of Marco having being promoted internally to CEO position rather than sourcing a high profile CEO in the external market with proven track record as to successful accomplishments in growing and developing the bottom line whilst improving retention and client base size through customer satisfaction.

So naturally ofc there will be some strings attached until Marco grows to fill the shoes and chair (I do not mean by eating cake on Fridays :)) of the CEO position of FPC managing a 400+ million USD economy with all the attached duties & responsibilities of being one.

PS. I do not see people as kissups, arse kickers etc. Its more about improving the operational elements of the service on both sides of the equation - Client & Operator - to provide positive results/outcomes for both parties in balance.

Just call it as you see it mate, there is never harm in being real about a situation as you perceive it - Not everyone is going to agree, and sometimes not even be happy about what you have to say.

I think what is important for FPC to remember at present is that in producing the platform with the now released CE2 VU implemented (even though the initial release is not entirely complete yet) is that;

MA took 3 steps back to produce the platform and now 2 steps forward now in having it implemented.

FPC as a spin-off of MA needs to remember they are still 1 step behind where they were in 2005/2006 with relation to the service status, reputation and current client satisfaction (inc. incurred past animosity since then) rather than thinking they are 1 or more steps infront right now.

Once they can get their heads around this, they can re-establish themselves (ground/focus themselves) as to their starting point and as to which direction to head off in before getting too far ahead of themselves; which will only lead them into counter-productive waters, in effect further demotivating their clients (potentially losing them altogether) and making their own business lives a whole lot more tougher for the immediate foreseeable future.

With that being said, if they tread carefully in the right direction, they can end up *many* steps infront in minimal amount of time. (2 - 5 yrs)
 
Last edited:
I would prefer they reduce the frequency of ATHs, keep it around current sizes.

If they reduce the size as well, it will not really by an ATH.
 
Smaller HOFs and no ATH sized HOFs = better general average loot = EU is not such a gamble anymore = more normal people (non-gamblers (Aandar for example)) actively playing and filling the loot pool = even better general average loot for everyone = fame spreads over the internet that EU is not so costly to play anymore = more players in EU (newbies and returning veterans) = even more players actively playing = even better loot for everyone.
 
What do casino's do?
Take away the jackpots?
Take away the hope for a big one?

I think not......
 
Where's the option:

"No: I oppose socialism in all it's forms"
 
Last edited:
Simple poll, would you be able to give up ability to ATH if it mean better spread of globals and hofs and general return in general?

edit: I didn't mean for this poll to be biased, was just being comical, lets pretend it just is YES or NO

I voted no just because I enjoy that feeling after killing a mob/crafting an item/droping a bomb/probe, that it could be the "big one"
Thats not to say I don't see both sides as i would put my selfish reasons away if it benefited the game as a whole.

The poll is IF it increased general return, globals etc, so lets try not to debate if it does or not, if ATHs did get taken out:sniffel: that extra ped that used to go to it COULD be put toward general return, globals etc.

Another question that arises is would better return decrease deposits? Well not sure on this it may lower them individually, but it may also bring new regular depositers to the table so not sure overall.

ok i have a question for you... Is this Pol in response to Marco's statement
on The Removal of the No loot system from hunting?

Originally Posted by Marco|FPC
Thanks for the coffee. The MA/FPC offices are bustling with energy and final tests and tweaks. No ETA yet.

(but I can say that I today took steps for the future, to remove the "No Loot"-system from mobs! More info will come late fall. Would you like that? ,-)

Some people im sure are thinking oh well loot is only going to be like 10 pec on average small drops. That is Purely an Assumption We all know what is said about Assuming "Your make an Ass out of U and Me"

Truth is We Do not know what the Loots will be Like. Let alone if Ma is going to do anything to the Current ATH system.

Now it will be a nice thing for all if we can still have the ath system as it is now With the "No loot System" Removed. Please Remember the ad screen System. One of the functions was to bring Ads into Eu to help with Funding the Loot pool This is why we had such Huge Hofs in the Past. It was Only when Massive Inc was bought out that we saw a Change in loot.

Remember the time frame when we saw a disappearance of commercials in game that was right about the tiem that loot in general started to go down.

That system setup is/was an Excellent Idea Especially for Entropia Universe. and it leads Me to suggest to MA Make your own video hosting Program for inserting commercials Into EU and Let the Companies that want to advertise come to you Directly with No "Middle man" Just Imagine what could be Done with the game system if this was a Reality... could we see a change in loots across the board ? WOW

forget what is generated cash wise just for EU what if MA expanded this to the Other Games that Massive inc had their commercials in. what would that mean for EU. Ma once had advertised EU as "A Game that you Get Payed to play" what if this sentence was 100% true.

Now I know that there are players that play for Enjoyment nothing wrong with that. but you cannot say that you wouldn't enjoy This idea.
i wrote this when "no more no loot" initially announced.
Nazbrat
well its apparently obvious that no matter what Mindark does No one will Ever be happy with the Loot system.

Listen well here People in the Old PE VU5 days up until VU 6.2 this is how the System Worked., you killed mob it Looted No loot was a Very Rare sight then. On average If you used the RIGHT WEAPON You Could make Profit Or at the Least Break even Hunting. That concept will hold true If/when MA removes the No loot system.

Why do people get So damn touchy on this topic Reason is there Scared that they wont get that BIG ass ATH or get Any loot at all...

Also note that the Ad screen system was supposed to Generate Cash into the in game Economy. And it Has Just look at the numbers of ATH on the board that's not to Mention those that were knocked off the list.

My Question is Who the Hell Told you Just what MA has available to be Looted In game????
 
Last edited:
Only read 1st page.... will read tommorow and make another post just dont got time atm....


I think ATHs need to stay... because it is that huge jackpot.... but in saying this... its ATH... it should be something pretty special... very rare... but yes lucrative... look at that one month before summer I believe there was like 3-5 ATHs in a month... like obviously you need to keep something there for people to hit big on.... but heres the thing...

1. Some people play and accept loses to risk getting that ATH...

2. Some people play because they want to play and continue to play...

If you get rid of ATHs or make em really rare... it would remove some of the gambling players... but by having horrid returns... you eliminating smaller players who cant afford to keep losing over and over....
 
I want what I started playing EU with to Return. Mobs always looted. the HOF system was not as large as it is now. But there were also far less players then as well. But id also Like to see the Same Big loots that we have now as well.

There is No reason why this cannot be done It is Possible

No thing is Ever Truly impossible we Simply choose to Think it is.
 
What do casino's do?
Take away the jackpots?
Take away the hope for a big one?

I think not......

Believe me - there are much more non-gamblers than gamblers on our beautiful planet Earth...

Most people prefer predictability and stability.
 
I meant it in terms of Marco having being promoted internally to CEO position rather than sourcing a high profile CEO in the external market with proven track record as to successful accomplishments in growing and developing the bottom line whilst improving retention and client base size through customer satisfaction.

So naturally ofc there will be some strings attached until Marco grows to fill the shoes and chair (I do not mean by eating cake on Fridays :)) of the CEO position of FPC managing a 400+ million USD economy with all the attached duties & responsibilities of being one.


These are the two most arrogant, self-absorbed, condescending statements to date on the forum... To attempt undermine the hard work, efforts of man who has worked for years to guide the growth and development of not only FPC but MA as well... by falsely claiming in a passive aggressive style that Marco is not somehow by talent, knowledge, experience and demonstrated skills, capable or deserving of being CEO of FPC in every sense of the word from day one and to present him as somewhat of a naive child that needs to grow into the position… is pathetically sad to say the least.

You can blabber on with your theories about management, marketing and strategy and what you think MA must do… but this…is just Shameful and worthy… not only of my contempt… but the contempt of the rest of the community here as well.

IMHO you owe MA, Marco, and the members of this forum and the citizens of EU an apology and a withdrawal... for deliberately and falsely without facts… undermining the personal creditability of Marco… and therefore the corporate creditability of MA and FPC… on a public forum.

You have absolutely no demonstrated insider knowledge of this company and the people who work for it… you probably have no insider knowledge of the industry either… To assume that you know more than those who are dedicated 24/7 not only to MA… but the industry in which it exists… and have dedicated their careers and their family’s futures to creating an building MA and that industry… is the height of self-aggrandizement…

You don’t know any facts… give me the average retention rate after 12 months of MMRPG’s and Virtual World Scenarios… and MA’s… Now, I don’t those have figures*… but I bet MA has… along with the hundred if not thousands of other industry specific figures and corporate specific figures that go into creating a successful growing company in this challenging field…which is what they have been since the beginning…

They know their competition better than you… they know their future competition better than you... they know the trends in their market better than you… and they know it in depth... so unless you know all this better than Marco and MA your just blowing smoke and trying look like you know something you don’t… and to make yourself look and sound important...


*SL 16%
 
After each ATH i wonder how many no looters have to be killed to fill back empty loot poll. Lucky dude goot with ATH part of my constant looses.
We asked MA to do filter for chat messages to hide ATH , Hofs or globals in but MA did it only for globals like we are enought stupid to dont know how to press F if we want.
After each ATH i feel worse and think - maybe is good to log off and wait loosers to fill up back that. That feeling is mostly based on bad average return. Thinking that lucky one who got ATH probably burrned at least twice of that amount in past do not help me stay better.
 
and to make yourself look and sound important...

This is your opinion & judgement and your welcome to it.

It is because of the naivity of young in the head people like yourself with the inability to understand that what I wrote as a mere opinion with a *balanced* suggestion for improving the service attached based on the views of many who have come and gone (instead feeling the need to down my opinion & suggestion and attack me over it) - that people with something of value to say on the subject at hand, usually stay clear from posting on forums.

Your welcome to wear your rose coloured glasses. I do not mind if you do.

However progress is usually made when people speak their minds on what they see as being problematic and constructively offering possible alternatives to viewing the situation based on their own life experience, in an effort to add to the possibility of improving or resolving it.

If you can not see this, please get over yourself and whatever gripe you have with people like myself in doing so.

The system will not treat you any different from anyone else.
If you believe it will, then fine - Your the customer MA wants forever without having to work towards improving anything ever. :rolleyes:

IMHO you owe MA, Marco, and the members of this forum and the citizens of EU an apology and a withdrawal... for deliberately and falsely without facts… undermining the personal creditability of Marco… and therefore the corporate creditability of MA and FPC… on a public forum.

Something you yourself should *think about*, I am happy to accept just this from you for your attack on me personally for an opinion put forward as a customer of a service which is not performing to an acceptable standard (yet).

Yet I would be naive to even expect the such from yourself, so I do not ask for it, or expect it.

A bit of research on the history of MindArk and PE and those involved over time helps a lot in understanding what I have had to say.

At the end of the day, Marco is not reinventing Calypso, nor has responded to my post in PM if what we had presently was the best thing since sliced bread.

Sure I am willing to give him the opportunity as a customer & investor into the service for him to prove his worth as CEO once he has grown to fill the role. But I am surely not going to put him up on a pedestal claiming he was sent from the heavens above !

He has a long road to travel. And not an easy one. Stop making out his job is easy and without a challenge that may in the end, not be geared to his abilities and capacity to deliver appropriately upon long term.

Why am I even bothering to reply to your non-sense lol. Entertaining as it is.

You have absolutely no demonstrated insider knowledge of this company and the people who work for it… you probably have no insider knowledge of the industry either… To assume that you know more than those who are dedicated 24/7 not only to MA… but the industry in which it exists… and have dedicated their careers and their family’s futures to creating an building MA and that industry… is the height of self-aggrandizement…

It is from the external analyst view point and ability to assess the impact and interplay without a too heavier personal attachment to the organisation and its vision and where they are upto in the rollout of their proposed framework that makes for a better performing service vs others in the marketplace.

I have not, nor ever claimed to have any insider knowledge per se. The research I have done and documented is for personal long-term investment risk assessment reasons and to contribute in-part to writing a book over the 2010-2019 period of my personal experiences (including mistakes, accomplishments, contributions amongst many other things); and is information that can be researched within the bounds of the territorial laws by anyone. :rolleyes:

For some reason, you seem to have a very bent take (perception) on reality and what has been stated.

Your whackiness has really taken me back this time. :)

My intention here is to reply to your attack, I have no desire to continue the discussion with you as past experience has demonstrated the results produced in numerous other threads of discussion that you have trashed through your judgement of other peoples opinions rather than offering your own on the subject at hand.

In relation to your overall post, please stop with the, you broke FPC's & MA's heart routine, the sun shines out of their void, now kiss it better - it gets tiring.

Here is an article for you:

http://doublebuffered.com/2009/06/16/the-players-are-wrong-but-listen-anyway/

Maybe this will open your eyes a little, rather than thinking people are being offensive, and that the business operators & employed team is offended.

Instead, understand what people here are doing - Giving opinions and/or providing a constructive critical analysis, some with suggestions attached in the hope they may refine to improve and/or evolve to a more productive state of performance.

Linked from a site of which I am contributor, and of which I have placed the lead researcher in contact with MindArk in the past.

http://www.mmogchart.com/

The bloggers are the ones you wish to follow around from this combined effort, as a starting point in providing some valuable insights and case studies of the MMO gaming industry in general.
 
Last edited:
Voted No, as I want to have the chance to get one :eek:

But maybe make them less, not less in value but less people who gets them IF the ped was spread out as the OP say
 
I think the way the loot pool works at the moment is like a food chain. Lower players make losses, sometimes very large ones, and the ubers are at the top of the chain *ONLY* because they had more money and started before a lot of other players. I personally don't see how this is fair on the majority of players and why if anything ubers should not make the profits they are making so easily.

I for one have the crappiest returns. For example: I used to always hunt drones (lower level) and never got loot that was better than a 30% return and then I see someone else global on a Drone gen 1 and it just makes me realise where my money has just gone.

Also i've been hunting the smaller mobs recently and I can certainly say the loot is crap all. You spend 5peds on ammo you get 50pecs returned. That is hardly going to keep the newbies coming back is it?

I hope a member of MA|FPC read this thread thouroughly and seriously take on board some of these ideas and what is being said here.
 
What do casino's do?
Take away the jackpots?
Take away the hope for a big one?

I think not......

Believe me - there are much more non-gamblers than gamblers on our beautiful planet Earth...

Most people prefer predictability and stability.


Farmers gamble when they put a crop in.
Drivers gamble each time they get behind a wheel
flying fishing swimming farting.

lifes a gamble.

5000 players buying 300 peds of ammo a week paying decay I think the ATH every now and again is not too much to ask:yay:

Jung
 
Believe me - there are much more non-gamblers than gamblers on our beautiful planet Earth...

Most people prefer predictability and stability.

Maybe they start off as NON gamblers.......
 
We've got a massive player retention problem the vast majority download, install, login a couple of times and then leave. If thats because of the loot distribution then it needs correcting. But seeing as we've had the current model for a couple of years (I think it got adjusted just after the note event) and MA have been happy with the result I doubt we'll ever see it change.

Maybe they start off as NON gamblers.......

It starts of with sweating and they get bored. Some decide to deposit a little and then lose it, deposit a little more and then lose that. Soon they're chasing the their loses while saying 'If I get more skill I'll make a profit because the ubers say I will'.
 
Last edited:
We've got a massive player retention problem the vast majority download, install, login a couple of times and then leave. If thats because of the loot distribution then it needs correcting. But seeing as we've had the current model for a couple of years (I think it got adjusted just after the note event) and MA have been happy with the result I doubt we'll ever see it change.



It starts of with sweating and they get bored. Some decide to deposit a little and then lose it, deposit a little more and then lose that. Soon they're chasing the their loses while saying 'If I get more skill I'll make a profit because the ubers say I will'.

I totally agree with this.....
Never gambled in my life.... I quit playing actively as I was losing each day 150 US$, luckely I could quit, many cannot shake the addiction.

1st the sweat, then a little deposit, then the carrot of skills you chase, then the carrot of good gear, I had it all.......
 
Voted 'Yes'
Around 2005-2006 the loot distribution was very consitent with HP of a mob and top loot it can yeld: easy mobs had like 2000 top loot multiplier and 85-90% ROI, e.g: mob drops 1.5 in average, has 'no-loot' the top loot would be like 2000*average. You could grind that mob living off, say, armor drop, like nemesis from drones, and eventually get nice 3k ped loot if you lucky. Always looting mobs had like 5000 top loot multiplier and different, like 70-75% ROI: you hunt hogglo/aurli all day long, loose 25% but in the end you/random noob get their 30k ped loot.
The loot distribution like that i liked, and could pay with my neighbours kidney to get it back lol.
 
Would you stop sucking MA/FPCs ass, you are giving them a rash!

These are the two most arrogant, self-absorbed, condescending statements to date on the forum... To attempt undermine the hard work, efforts of man who has worked for years to guide the growth and development of not only FPC but MA as well...

HE was MAs PR guy. How does PR direct growth or any opertations to that matter? Yes now as CEO of FPC he can guide and direct, so far jury is still out (except in your little court room). But yes, HE IS making improvements, but long way to go.

I have only seen you with the arrogant, self-absorbed, condescending statements.

by falsely claiming in a passive aggressive style that Marco is not somehow by talent, knowledge, experience and demonstrated skills, capable or deserving of being CEO of FPC in every sense of the word from day one and to present him as somewhat of a naive child that needs to grow into the position… is pathetically sad to say the least.

Neither do you know, or us for that matter as to the exact reason he was appointed CEO. Could be skills, could be some thought he had a nice ass, could be the highest share holder of junior department people. Only MA knows. Also, usually when a company hires from within, the person does have to grow into the position. That is not a detriment to the person.

You can blabber on with your theories about management, marketing and strategy and what you think MA must do… but this…is just Shameful and worthy… not only of my contempt… but the contempt of the rest of the community here as well.

IMHO you owe MA, Marco, and the members of this forum and the citizens of EU an apology and a withdrawal... for deliberately and falsely without facts… undermining the personal creditability of Marco… and therefore the corporate creditability of MA and FPC… on a public forum.

You have absolutely no demonstrated insider knowledge of this company and the people who work for it… you probably have no insider knowledge of the industry either… To assume that you know more than those who are dedicated 24/7 not only to MA… but the industry in which it exists… and have dedicated their careers and their family’s futures to creating an building MA and that industry… is the height of self-aggrandizement…

You don’t know any facts… give me the average retention rate after 12 months of MMRPG’s and Virtual World Scenarios… and MA’s… Now, I don’t those have figures*… but I bet MA has… along with the hundred if not thousands of other industry specific figures and corporate specific figures that go into creating a successful growing company in this challenging field…which is what they have been since the beginning…

They know their competition better than you… they know their future competition better than you... they know the trends in their market better than you… and they know it in depth... so unless you know all this better than Marco and MA your just blowing smoke and trying look like you know something you don’t… and to make yourself look and sound important...

BLAH BLAH BLAH. And how are you an expert on anything PE, EU ? From day one you come in with your self absorbed better than everyone else attitude. People that have been around longer DO KNOW MORE THAN YOU. I'm still a toddler as far as EU is concerned, but I do have business sense (retired at 35) as well as do others, not saying those at MA/FPC don't, but what's to say they do? Businesses fail all the time because of lack of good business sense. MA/FPC would behoove themselves to listen to input of players that have a vested interest in the success of EU. A company that ignores input from it's customers will soon be without customers. The people know better than a company as to what they want.

It is ass kissing cancers like you that bring down companies, because you constantly tell them what they want to hear, versus what they need to hear. You don't improve anybody or anything by pandering them. Growth is accomplished by overcoming adversity.

So as you said to Lava
so unless you know ...your just blowing smoke and trying look like you know something you don’t… and to make yourself look and sound important...
 
Last edited:
Votes YES. Lottery loot is boring.
 
> It is a delicate balance, the *majority* of ATHs are actually earned from the participants own money that has been buffered, invested and returned.

It is also a part of the intricate ruleset cost of participation balancing engine which maintains a balance for everyone (over the long haul) for the period they are involved with Entropia vs everyone else.

I didn't know that this was something unique to ATHs, I thought the "buffered" came back via globals and hofs too,, very interesting +rep:)
 
Can people please stop quoting Brooklyn as you are rendering the single entry in my ignore list redundant !!!
 
Time for Mindark to see.. what the ppl really want.
76% for reducing the insane ath's and bring PE-style loots back.
 
In my opinion, having ATH's is much more excited when u hit one. You allways in stress by asking youre self while hunting/mining/crafting u will get ah or not :)
But in other hands its not that cool because its only very few who hits thouse ATH's, having more globals would be better for lower skilled peoples :)
For example: For me it would be better to hunt for 1 week and hit at least 10globals than hunt infinity years and hit an ATH :D
 
Back
Top