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yomajo said:
As it was suggested, I think Argus good times are headed for space. Enjoy while it lasts.

I'm a newbie miner, but Leeloo's message tells me my thinking on inventory-capital management is correct.

P.s. Did ~5-6 hours hunting yesterday, got ~10ped of rare ingots.
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Now let's think for real.
From where is game still gooing on.
Gamblers and people who invest in new items.
Gamblers will stop after they will loose all the moneys.
In december was a smart one who did belive he can beat the sistem. Where is he now? On twitch chat giving advice to others to go on level 13 mode.
Now let's take the other side.
How many time players ask MA to give UL and L new items ?
Hunting and mining provide crafters materials to be able to craft and sell.
What are people crafting right now? Dont include gamblers
Armatrix ,amps, enhancers and .....?
Just search to see how much materials end back in your storage from AH.

Will not be better if MA start to listen on what people need more?
Until last year I did play like a big idiot. In november I started to change and put again money to invest in items. This year Cyrene offer a backpack with lets say decent buff. I invest there because my plan is to reach as fast I can level 100 on prospecting and surveying and make again a bigger invest for P 50 UL or P 30 L. But when I see what is happening right now and I dont see any good days, I belive that buying that finder will not be a smart move. So yeah. No invest again this time.
People who invest want to see that items worth the money.
Unreal 5 is on the way, they said.
On actual gameplay can the game provide to new players the reason to stay and invest?

Also, can game provide me the reason I need to start invest again?
Until now they provide me a "free banned" time because they dont know what they are dooing.
 
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InKwL said:
Now let's think for real.
From where is game still gooing on.
Gamblers and people who invest in new items.
Gamblers will stop after they will loose all the moneys.
In december was a smart one who did belive he can beat the sistem. Where is he now? On twitch chat giving advice to others to go on level 13 mode.
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Anyone who advises going level 13 mode if you mean amps or sharpnal is idiot and shouldn't be listened to, these are to be used sparingly at best and iv done load amps even during this event and they rarely at best pay their mu.

Last night 7 terra 8 amps only got a 166 ferrum to cover mu basically at quite a depth and all. Theirs reasons why they give such advise and it normally ends up in their pockets.
 
You can claim that as much as you want but Entropia is far from Real Cash Economy. In an actual economy there is no invisible hand holding you making profit more than certain precent there are also jobs which would earn you salary. But since we are all in a game the employer if we have to relate to RCE is Mindark and nomather what you do and how much you grind Mindark wont let you profit sometimes you might win sometimes you will loose you are left to profit from other players who gamble on the fact they can beat the odds !
 
InKwL said:
What you make when you see MU dont cover you? You stop. Like others big hunters who you now dont even see them even in mayhems.
If you like this write me and I will be more that happy to buy all your materials at nanocube price. 100.30% is my best price what I can make for you. Is a good deal, belive me.

Update: I belive the best way right now is to be a reseller.
So yeah, WTB all materials on nanocube price.
Help me so I can help AH with cheap price.
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Totally agree about stopping :).

Reselling with such low mark ups is kinda pointless, there is no margin on 103% resources. This is why we no longer have as many "resellers"/"traders", main issue imo is oversupply and low demand.
 
InKwL said:
On actual gameplay can the game provide to new players the reason to stay and invest?
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InKwL said:
Also, can game provide me the reason I need to start invest again?
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At a glance the Prospector Rush is a relatively small event, yet, it's actually 150k to 200k PED per ship in MU, times 10 ships. So it's around 175k USD in MU up for grabs within several months. And it involves all 3 professions.
If this is reason enough, it's up to each of us, of the new players, investors.
 
Evey said:
At a glance the Prospector Rush is a relatively small event, yet, it's actually 150k to 200k PED per ship in MU, times 10 ships. So it's around 175k USD in MU up for grabs within several months. And it involves all 3 professions.
If this is reason enough, it's up to each of us, of the new players, investors.
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I'd rather buy actual property worth that much it will turn better income :)
 
That's the first cost estimate I've seen at that level, but I have been wondering about what mus would result in what end costs.
At that sort of level there won't even be ten takers, I'd say, so what mu were you calculating with?
It's theory only once mus drop to piddlingly low, but the cost still equates to more per ship than investors will accept ...

(I've not forgotten that MA will pay back 10k in shrap, by the way, so the costs really are about mus and 'turnover losses')
 
jetsina said:
That's the first cost estimate I've seen at that level, but I have been wondering about what mus would result in what end costs.
At that sort of level there won't even be ten takers, I'd say, so what mu were you calculating with?
It's theory only once mus drop to piddlingly low, but the cost still equates to more per ship than investors will accept ...

(I've not forgotten that MA will pay back 10k in shrap, by the way, so the costs really are about mus and 'turnover losses')
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I think another quite detailed estimate was ~60k ped.
 
I know I wrote quite a while ago that I'd like to see ships built from crafted mats, but with the final step not at risk of failing because of the huge cost of that fail. The system now presented is indeed with a fixed 10k peds of successes required, so the margin of luck there is actually quite low.
That bit I like a lot.
Going down the chain, that bp requires mats also crafted, mostly entirely new lines of ship component chunks. Those mats spread out across a wide range of fairly normal stuff, so I like that too.

The difficulty in estimating what sellers will settle for as mus thus comes down to the drop rates mostly of the bps themselves, although the two ores are in the mix, yes. It is here that the balancing may be pretty terrible, if crafters must craft, craft, craft for low numbers of bp clicks.
If they did the clicks anyway under pre-rush conditions, then they won't necessarily need a high drop rate to simply make a few extra peds, but the rush will be more of a walk.
If the clicks need to be on bps not otherwise common in the current economy, then the demanded prices per dropped bp click will be higher.
My own estimate thus now comes down to mainly whether ep crafting is dropping the bps or not. Are they, please?
Thanks...
 
Personally, I'm butt hurt that the materials/ores can be found on planet period. It's a space event for a space ship, and there are plenty of players that have invested into space both ship wise and skill wise. But the people raking in the most from it are of course planet players. This could have been a great event to pull people into space and get them to try it out, while rewarding those who have invested in space already... but no
 
Vill said:
I think another quite detailed estimate was ~60k ped.
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only issue is that was considering Morpheus at 250% not the current approx 650% making the morpheus MU estimate 48k ped of MU instead of 13k ped in MU.
 
graham said:
only issue is that was considering Morpheus at 250% not the current approx 650% making the morpheus MU estimate 48k ped of MU instead of 13k ped in MU.
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It was really back of the envelope, but I was ballparking cost to craft yesterday at 80-100k MU in large part due to morpheus MU. It looks like that and package blueprints will be the main gates.

Lanorium hasn’t been too bad, but I haven’t mined enough to hit morpheus during this event.
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
You mean the number one crafter who actually holds materials long term on EVERYTHING wasn't prepared for this? Shocked. I am shocked.
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That's pretty snide.. thanks so much, makes me feel very good inside.

You think I am not prepared? I have probably 100k PED of crafting mats in storage... But I can do math and looking at the rate that the BPs are dropping and the mu of blueprint clicks and materials involved, I just think #1 it's too early, based purely on the drop rate of blueprint clicks, #2 it makes absolutely no financial good sense, it makes that spaceship way too expensive..

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Legends said:
looking at the rate that the BPs are dropping and the mu of blueprint clicks and materials involved, I just think #1 it's too early, based purely on the drop rate of blueprint clicks, #2 it makes absolutely no financial good sense, it makes that spaceship way too expensive..
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Will be funny to watch when the first one is discovered after someone dumped 150k on MU and immediately lists it for sale at 250k PED SB.
 
The Great Adventurer said:
Will be funny to watch when the first one is discovered after someone dumped 150k on MU and immediately lists it for sale at 250k PED SB.
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I doubt that will work, I don't even think Motherships sold for that much
 
A-Bomb said:
I wonder who got the second ship, since there are two tokens missing, and why they dont show up as rare loots in the hof window. Makes the rest of em a mystery.
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Thats not so important such as EP-41 Military Rare Finds ! or King Kong Rubish, and list can continue

You can imagine they have made a +80-100k - 150k (depends by everyone) Item be "Ghost Mode On" ?
 
Rechinul said:
Thats not so important such as EP-41 Military Rare Finds ! or King Kong Rubish, and list can continue

You can imagine they have made a +80-100k - 150k (depends by everyone) Item be "Ghost Mode On" ?
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Yeah, kinda odd huh?

Maybe it's so the new items ATH list isn't 10% spaceship tokens :D
 
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