FYI: ROCKtropia Missions

[Dab]

I was not saying the issues should be ignored I just agree with the make up your mind part lol

Some people just seem to complain no matter what happens

Some people never complain no matter what happens.

Doormat:

2. Informal a person who offers little resistance to ill-treatment by others

 

[Karmic]

And to be honest, the complaints are justified imo. There should be a matter of fairness in the game. And let it be noted, it can hardly be fair to have different reward standards. If X people have received attributes for completing the missions it should be valid for the entire playerbase. So either return the rewards to the old standard or reset the received attributes. Just being fair.

If you want it to be fair you also have to give all of the latecomers 8 more stamina so we can have the same starting amount as the "exploiters" that started before 2007. It was the community that demanded the attributes be taken away from people that did the missions.

The "stamina" thread was full of people who started with 9 stamina instead of 1 like us newbies demanding that the stamina be rolled back but saying that they deserved to keep their 8 extra stamina advantage because they were early adopters. How is this different?

 

[The Rising Star]

If you want it to be fair you also have to give all of the latecomers 8 more stamina so we can have the same starting amount as the "exploiters" that started before 2007. It was the community that demanded the attributes be taken away from people that did the missions.

I agree with this whole heartedly. In a RCE (not just any game, its a RCE !!!) where much of your "potential" are determined by those attributes numbers you cant just one day decide to lower the nib starting ranges as MA did back then. That would be Totally unfair and just as bad a "Cheat" by MA on its customers via PP.

 

[aj502]

It's also possible to do several missions on the same mob/area on Calypso, I don't see any problem in this. I see this as an opportunity for players to be smart and start all the affected missions before pursuing the task.

Also to comment on the reward changes, I'm very unhappy about the current status of the mission rewards! How great it ever may be that the Cell Phone etc. missions are back I don't feel like doing a single mission out there

You can repeat missions here (on Calypso)???

As far as the Mission reward changes on RT, was this intentional and will it get reverted back?

If not, that might've been the only chance I'd waste some ped on a ND planet (and lame TP fees).
Kinda seems lame that some would get atrib points before and now others get RT records(?) for the same mission...

Gee...What would you rater get? Atrrib or 10 records?
....Or are the records just given after you repeat?






Tippin'

 

[John_connor]

You can repeat missions here (on Calypso)???

As far as the Mission reward changes on RT, was this intentional and will it get reverted back?

If not, that might've been the only chance I'd waste some ped on a ND planet (and lame TP fees).
Kinda seems lame that some would get atrib points before and now others get RT records(?) for the same mission...

Gee...What would you rater get? Atrrib or 10 records?
....Or are the records just given after you repeat?
Tippin'

I did the DJ mission the 1st time and got 1 stamina and when repeated I got 20 records so I think that you only get records after the 1st attempt (I may be wrong just what I have noticed on the 3 missions I have done today)

And yea TP fee is a pain in the ass, my friend from work joined and started on NI so it cost me 80 peds to nip over and chat to him and show him what to do lol.

 

[Amber Knightley]

You can repeat missions here (on Calypso)???

I don't think so and that wasn't what I was commenting on...
What I was trying to say was that it is possible to do two different missions at the same time on the same mob type, specifically I was thinking about Droka...

 

[Karmic]

I agree with this whole heartedly. In a RCE (not just any game, its a RCE !!!) where much of your "potential" are determined by those attributes numbers you cant just one day decide to lower the nib starting ranges as MA did back then. That would be Totally unfair and just as bad a "Cheat" by MA on its customers via PP.

The funny thing is I'm actually in favor of having mroe divergent missions so everyone doesn't get the same rewards and exactly the same experience. Attributes really don't affect much of your potential anymore, I'd almost rather get skills than attributes. Attributes are looking more like a badge of honor since there are just so many of them being given out for quests, nobody is going to be able to collect them all.

The rewards should be consistent for a specific missions though, if you screw it up roll back the people who got the earlier rewards. Yeah it sucks for us, either we'll have to redo all the missions we already did, or we just won't be able to get the skill rewards. Better to kick the Rocktropia people in the teeth for the good of the calypso forums though, you'll get a lot less complaints that way.

 

[valentin]

If you want it to be fair you also have to give all of the latecomers 8 more stamina so we can have the same starting amount as the "exploiters" that started before 2007. It was the community that demanded the attributes be taken away from people that did the missions.

The "stamina" thread was full of people who started with 9 stamina instead of 1 like us newbies demanding that the stamina be rolled back but saying that they deserved to keep their 8 extra stamina advantage because they were early adopters. How is this different?

And before 2005 a player who was active in the game could get 100 in agility in 1 year- - -> and so on and so on... We all know how much nerfs MA doing all time and still does a lot of it.

 

[aj502]

I did the DJ mission the 1st time and got 1 stamina and when repeated I got 20 records so I think that you only get records after the 1st attempt (I may be wrong just what I have noticed on the 3 missions I have done today)

And yea TP fee is a pain in the ass, my friend from work joined and started on NI so it cost me 80 peds to nip over and chat to him and show him what to do lol.

Ah ok....So REAZPEATING the SAME mission gets you records, but the ORIGINAL completion gives you stamina, agility, whatever else?
They didn't change it from the original rewards before?
Can anyone else confirm please?

I don't think so and that wasn't what I was commenting on...
What I was trying to say was that it is possible to do two different missions at the same time on the same mob type, specifically I was thinking about Droka...

Oh ok....Yea, I think there's a couple you can combine but not actually repeat...








Tippin'

 

[Amber Knightley]

The rewards should be consistent for a specific missions though, if you screw it up roll back the people who got the earlier rewards. Yeah it sucks for us, either we'll have to redo all the missions we already did, or we just won't be able to get the skill rewards. Better to kick the Rocktropia people in the teeth for the good of the calypso forums though, you'll get a lot less complaints that way.

I totally agree, I wish it would be possible to redo missions to get the skill rewards they seem to give now.

NEVERDIE posted this on the neverdie.com forum:

Heya, Quests have been rebalanced, this is confirmed all the exploits fixed.. Repeatables are no longer able to Give Skills... We will add more variety with the Items in the future... Hoepfully all our BP's will make it into the next VU so u can make use of all your records and other stuff...

Some of the items you receive may be more useful than you thing

Thankyou so Much for the Help during the skill nerf period... We learned alot this time and hopefulloy wont have these kind of problems again with Quests..

Currently at SXSW, show starts tomorrow!

The Studio is Cranking tooo!! Get ready for next VU

I'm not sure how to interpret this but I'm afraid there won't be any attribute points rewarded again any time soon.
Though I do wonder, does any mission at all these days give attributes?!
I'll post again if I hear anything else...

 

[FruSnabel]

Ah ok....So REAZPEATING the SAME mission gets you records, but the ORIGINAL completion gives you stamina, agility, whatever else?
They didn't change it from the original rewards before?
Can anyone else confirm please?


Oh ok....Yea, I think there's a couple you can combine but not actually repeat...


Tippin'

This is not correct, perhaps he who wrote this completed the quest before the nerf? I did the quest the first time 2 days ago, i got records, and then i repeated it since I didnt know it was the same again (same thing as happened to the "exploiters" and the exploiters and i got records. So all I got is records, no more Stamina at all.

 

[Amber Knightley]

I'm not able to trigger the ROCKtropia Police Call missions...
Anyone else able to do this?

only looking to activate some missions, probably wont finish them atm, I want them attributes! :/

 

[Nirfu]

IMO the missions should have been replaced with new one. They could have done an easy namechange of it. Then there wouldn't be any problem since the old "bugged skill nerf missions" would no longer exist and the new ones is just new missions. Maybe something else for NDS to learn about.

I wounder if NDS/MA/FPC/SEE ant other planet partners should sit down and rethink definotion of Done.

When is a new feature good enough to release?
How much testing must they do?
Who decides that it's good enough?
etc

 

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by NEVERDIE
Heya, Quests have been rebalanced, this is confirmed all the exploits fixed.. Repeatables are no longer able to Give Skills... We will add more variety with the Items in the future... Hoepfully all our BP's will make it into the next VU so u can make use of all your records and other stuff...

Some of the items you receive may be more useful than you thing

Thankyou so Much for the Help during the skill nerf period... We learned alot this time and hopefulloy wont have these kind of problems again with Quests..

Currently at SXSW, show starts tomorrow!

The Studio is Cranking tooo!! Get ready for next VU

I'm not sure how to interpret this but I'm afraid there won't be any attribute points rewarded again any time soon.
Though I do wonder, does any mission at all these days give attributes?!
I'll post again if I hear anything else...

The interpretation is "We were incapable of fixing the exploit within the two weeks we had. We have therefore ended up rewarding all of the exploiters and a few honest players at the expense of the majority of the player base who had yet to complete the missions."

I always thought ND was a bit bonkers, but in a nice way. However, given what he's done and the total lack of realisation of it's impact, I now realise he's just an idiot.

Let's hope that MA grow some balls, tell NDS to fix their mess and stop pissing off the player base, or get the hell out of Entropia.

In summary:

To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a NEVERDIE.

 

[Yoshi yamamoto]

reward

ROCKtropia Police Call: 11-57 (136810, 83510) Kill 40 Mulholland Boys Reward: Strength <WRONG no awards

ROCKtropia Police Call: 10-66 (135570, 83905) Kill 40 Stereo Jackers Reward: Agility <creative juice NOT agility

I have a lot of time spent on hildren job but the rewards are quite a mismatch to what is written on the forum


recently neither the power nor agility or stamina !!!!!!!

 

[FruSnabel]

ROCKtropia Police Call: 11-57 (136810, 83510) Kill 40 Mulholland Boys Reward: Strength <WRONG no awards

ROCKtropia Police Call: 10-66 (135570, 83905) Kill 40 Stereo Jackers Reward: Agility <creative juice NOT agility

I have a lot of time spent on hildren job but the rewards are quite a mismatch to what is written on the forum


recently neither the power nor agility or stamina !!!!!!!

It's not a mismatch, those were the rewards, NEVERDIE changed it.

 

[Infinity01]

The interpretation is "We were incapable of fixing the exploit within the two weeks we had. We have therefore ended up rewarding all of the exploiters and a few honest players at the expense of the majority of the player base who had yet to complete the missions."

To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a NEVERDIE.

As far as i can see....ND rewarded ppl who were in RT and some close friends.......many of you perhaps don't know what has been dropped during 1st 24 hrs from RT mobs....

The nerfing of missions, and high rate of item drops in early stage indicate an abuse of system by those close to NDS!

 

[juicy001]

As far as i can see....ND rewarded ppl who were in RT and some close friends.......many of you perhaps don't know what has been dropped during 1st 24 hrs from RT mobs....

The nerfing of missions, and high rate of item drops in early stage indicate an abuse of system by those close to NDS!

I wonder about one thing , where u know from . what ND can do and what not ? why blame planet partners for stuff MA has done probaly ? and hows about accepting bugs

possible that u play more relaxed if ya keep this in your mind

 

[Dan59]

Balance team clearly stated in client that they intentionaly fucked a litle ( es500 )
After that now few days a go player here on forum posted he looted mentor gun.
So ve have drops of items wich shud newer drop.
So they continue lol.
Maybe quests are in ND hands but no way is drop of pistol mentor edition or scaner.
Scary.
Preparing for Arcadia , maybe mod shadow or MM ancient drop.

 

[The Rising Star]

As far as i can see....ND rewarded ppl who were in RT and some close friends.......many of you perhaps don't know what has been dropped during 1st 24 hrs from RT mobs....

The nerfing of missions, and high rate of item drops in early stage indicate an abuse of system by those close to NDS!

Who are these close friends and how do you know they are "close Friends" !? I have to say i dont agree with a high rate of items droping being a "clear " case of abuse. That is pushing it a bit, but again you say by those close to ND. Id really like to know how do you know all these ppl are really "close" to ND !? Im just really interested how you know this for sure

Or are you assuming that everyone including the ubers that got gains and looted uber stuff are all naturally friends with ND because they looted some good stuff !? Hope not lol

 

[chevrons]

Since it seems only Repeatable missions have been changed, does anyone know which are the non-Repeatable ones, and which of those still give Attributes?

I don't have anything against repeatable missions as such, but it seems whoever decided to introduce them naively overlooked the inability to incorporate a flag to give a different reward on the first cycle, and the rest is known.

To me, one of ND's crimes is failing to publish a Content List when missions were introduced, which should have included an indication that some were repeatable.

I'm waiting to see if I should revisit RT. I was there a year ago for 2 weeks, found it OK, and was intending to return.

 

[FruSnabel]

It doesn't seem like there is any missions left with attributes, all or most have been replaced by small amount of skills or rocktropia items.

Edit: Im on Next Island now doing the attribute missions there before they get taken away!

 

[toad]

Very funny, i wasted tp fee to go to RT for attrubute missions and now they have removed the attribute rewards?
Guess i go back to calypso again, atleast you know what you get from the missions there and it does not get changed!

NEVER ROCKTROPIA AGAIN FOR ME!!!

 

[aj502]

This is not correct, perhaps he who wrote this completed the quest before the nerf? I did the quest the first time 2 days ago, i got records, and then i repeated it since I didnt know it was the same again (same thing as happened to the "exploiters" and the exploiters and i got records. So all I got is records, no more Stamina at all.

OMFG!

Yea...That's fair....

Fuck it...I was hating myself for actually thinking of going to a ND planet anyway, now I have might have the perfect excuse to never spend a pec there in the 1st place.
(like i did before...Yea, yea...I "flim-flam", but hey...Those attribs are hard to come by! Guess only the lucky ones get 'em tho... :/ )

Gratz to those that got the attrib rewards "in time", thanks to those who ruined it for low players like me and i feel bad for those that got the shit rewards (or no reward) for doing the same quests the 1st time.


GJ MA.



Can anyone ealse PLEASE confirm this as in the players that are doing this for the 1st time?
Thanks.





Tippin'

Edit:

The DJ mission kill 20 soulshakers should give 1 stamina, i got rocktropia records and i have not done the mission until today

Damn that's fucked up.
Srry Toad.

I'd file a support case for what it's worth...Who knows?
I doubt you'd be alone doing so.
GL up there....You should get out of there if you can....

 

[toad]

The DJ mission kill 20 soulshakers should give 1 stamina, i got rocktropia records and i have not done the mission until today

 

[John_connor]

As far as i can see....ND rewarded ppl who were in RT and some close friends.......many of you perhaps don't know what has been dropped during 1st 24 hrs from RT mobs....

The nerfing of missions, and high rate of item drops in early stage indicate an abuse of system by those close to NDS!

Coming from someone who just stands around City Of Dreams all day and whines can I ask how you got these Facts?

You should not post speculation and claim them to be facts otherwise you could get sued for slander as was pointed out to you several times in chat today

 

[toad]

Boot Camp 1 – Trail By Fire (Drill Sgt. Breakerz, west of BAMF Headquarters) Kill 50 Zombies Reward: Agility

I got a little weapons handling for that, dont know how much but very little i guess.
Last saved skills at chipping optimizer i had 3442 and now i have 3449 and i have done some hunting since then also.

I do next level of zombies to and if the stamina is gone there which i guess it is im gone from RT forever, its just sick that they can change stuff like this AFTER some ppl got the attribute rewards for them.

 

[toad]

Boot Camp 2 – Bring The Pain (Cpt. Gruber, BAMF HQ) Kill 100 Zombies Reward: Stamina

I got a few levels alertness from that and im at 650 so very few levels, well im gone from RT now just like the attribute rewards!

 

[forceblade]

disapointed...

Aye was realy disapointed with rewards on zombie missions... seems like all RT missions Ive did have crappy reward... better to get back to calypso and do iron chalenges for some real rewards...

 

[lillenecho]

went the RT an hour or so before the missions got offline... been waiting for the missions to work again, killing zombies with crap loot meanwhile... left yesterday and not gonna go back cus this change is just stupid