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Should Chili con carne have beans it it?

Should Chili con carne have beans it it?

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Simple question.

Blackjack came to stay with us last year.
He sampled my homegrown Chili peppers.
He laughed at me rubbing ice cubes on my tongue.
He drank all my Beer and Redbreast Whisky.
He sent me some of his fave chilli mix in the post.

I cooked the chilli

Very tasty it was too, but when Blackjack saw the piccy.......
SHOCK HORROR!!!! Silly Stinky put beans in it!

Should Chili con carne have beans it it?


Stinky:yay:
 
Beans

Never had it any other way, put those beans in boy!
 
Put in those beans!! :D
 
I had a chilli con carne without beans (wasn't that bad), was more like carne con chilli (to get the relations in the right order). Not bad, but myself like the version with beans better (since it makes it more of a whole meal instead like some topping for bread).

It's a matter of taste, maybe try without beans next time - then supply enough bread then since the missing beans won't cool the hotness.

There are plenty variations without: a spicy version of spaghetti bolognese, or you can do gulasch as chilli version. Just experiment once in a while to try out new stuff :)

Tussi
 
NOOOOO why ruin perfectly good food with beans... its grÅse
 
If there are no beans, the game of "spit and duck" will be far less entertaining ;)
 
I've had Chilli without beans....it's ok, but gotta have the beans to be REAL chilli. :)
 
Traditional recipe Chili con carne does NOT have beans.

Most of us just make plain "Chili" which usually includes pinto beans, etc.

Go to a cookoff sometime and you'll see some interesting things. I ate a chili once that they had to make in a cast iron pot. It was so hot, it would have dissolved anything else (Including most of the folks who tasted it)
 
Beans in chili is a tradition, but chili with no beans, replacing them with more meat, tons more hot peppers and/or whiskey can be awesome too :D
 
Some intresting stuff on the Wiki page :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_con_carne

"Controversy
A popular saying among self-proclaimed chili purists[who?] is, "If you know beans about chili, you know chili ain't got no beans." The Chili Appreciation Society International specified in 1999 that, among other things, cooks are forbidden from including beans, marinating any meats, or discharging firearms in the preparation of chili for official competition.[7]

Pinto beans (frijoles), a staple of Tex-Mex cooking, have long been associated with chili. The question of whether beans "belong" in chili has been a matter of contention amongst chili cooks for an equally long time. It is likely that in many poorer areas of San Antonio and other places associated with the origins of chili, beans were used rather than meat, or in addition to meat. In that regard, some chili aficionados suggest that there were probably two chili types made in the world, depending on what could be afforded and how frugal the cook was."
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rofl @ the highlighted part :D
 
Argh, looks so tasty. Stop making me hungry Stinky! :silly2:

Although in chilli I really hate beans in it, and often spend most of the mealtime trying to pick them out. Plain meat all the way!

Would love to go to one of those cookoffs too, but don't know if they're around in the UK. Admittedly never looked, but not something I've heard of here.
 
"discharging firearms in the preparation of chili for official competition."

Hahaha, that's funny. I need to go there more often, always good tidbits thrown in.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's thrown in there for the Texans. Rowdy, crazy bunch. :)
 
If it doesnt have beans its just spicey meat in sauce.
 
OK, this 'joke' story has done the rounds for a few years now, but i thought i should pop it here for laughs again.....

Recently I was honored to be selected as an Outstanding Famous Celebrity in my Community to be a judge at a chili cook-off because no one else wanted to do it. Also the original person called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking directions to the beer wagon when the call came. I was assured by the other two judges that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy, and besides they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted this as being one of those burdens you endure when you're an internet writer and therefore known and adored by all. Here are the scorecards from the event:

Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili

JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick.
JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor Very mild.
ME: Holy smokes, what is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway with it. Took me two beers to put the flames out. Hope that's the worst one. These people are crazy.

Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili

JUDGE ONE: Smoky (barbecue?) with a hint of pork. Slight Jalapeno tang.
JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously.
ME: Keep this out of reach of children! I'm not sure what I am supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. Shoved my way to the front of the beer line. The barmaid looks like a professional wrestler after a bad night. She was so irritated over my gagging sounds that the snake tattoo under her eye started to twitch. She has arms like Popeye and a face like Winston Churchill. I will NOT pick a fight with her.

Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili

JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. Needs more beans.
JUDGE TWO: A beanless chili, a bit salty, good use of red peppers.
ME: This has got to be a joke. Call the EPA, I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been sneezing Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now and got out of my way so I could make it to the beer wagon. Barmaid pounded me on the back; now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. She said her friends call her "Sally." Probably behind her back they call her "Forklift."

Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic

JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing.
JUDGE TWO: A hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili.
ME: I felt something scraping across my tongue but was unable to taste it. Sally was standing behind me with fresh refills so I wouldn't have to dash over to see her. When she winked at me her snake sort of coiled and uncoiled--it's kinda cute.

Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover

JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground adding considerable kick. Very impressive.
JUDGE TWO: Chili using shredded beef; could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement.
ME: My ears are ringing and I can no longer focus my eyes. I belched and four people in front of me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed hurt when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue by pouring beer directly on it from a pitcher. Sort of irritates me that one of the other judges asked me to stop screaming.

Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety

JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spice and peppers.
JUDGE TWO: The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb.
ME: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous flames. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except Sally. I asked if she wants to go dancing later.

Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili

JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers.
JUDGE TWO: Ho Hum, tastes as if the chef threw in canned chili peppers at the last moment. I should note that I am a bit worried about Judge Number 3, he appears to be in a bit of distress.
ME: You could put a hand grenade in my mouth and pull the pin and I wouldn't feel it. I've lost the sight in one eye and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My clothes are covered with chili which slid unnoticed out of my mouth at some point. Good, at autopsy they'll know what killed me. Go Sally, save yourself before it's too late. Tell our children I'm sorry I was not there to conceive them. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful and I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air I'll just let it in through the hole in my stomach. Call the X-Files people and tell them I've found a super nova on my tongue.

Chili # 8: Helen's Mount Saint Chili

JUDGE ONE: This final entry is a good, balanced chili, neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge Number 3 fell and pulled the chili pot on top of himself.
JUDGE TWO: A perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili, safe for all, not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence.
ME: Momma....





Stinky:yay:
 
OK, this question borders on the verge as being as serious as "What kind of barbeque is better?" Bloody noses, blackened eyes, and the like can result in the heat of contention!

That being said, here's my opinion.

Chili con carne: Traditional, the original. No beans, chunks of meat in a spicy seasoned sauce.

Chili: Food for the larger masses. More of a stew, often with ground beef, tomatos, beans, onions, and other things that genuine chiliheads would get piqued over.


I eat and enjoy both, but when I'm cooking for myself and other afficionados, it's the Carol Shelby method and stew beef. :)
 
First of all, They have chili in the UK??? I figured you folks eat fish 'n chips, sausages, and curry 24hrs a day. ;)


Second, if it's in a bowl, I can go either way on the beans, but I think shreaded cheese, diced raw onions and thinly sliced jalapeno make a good topper. If the chili's on fries or a burger, hold the beans. They just make things messy.
 
No Beans. :thumbup:
 
No beans no chilli -.-
 
Beans for me. A year in Mexico when a small child taught me several things; that iguanas can live happily in a roof space, machetes can remove gardener's toes and Chilli Con Carne means chilli with meat. Chilli with beans, onion, bell peppers, tomatos etc is the basic dish, Chilli Con Carne is that dish with meat added; complimenting, not replacing, the beans and other ingredients. That's how I always saw it.

My particular take on it involves Habanero/Tabasco hot sauce (sliced jalapeno's also as a vegetable:)) and diced steak in with the minced beef, along with tomato passata/chopped tomatoes, red kidney beans AND baked beans, thin sliced leeks and spring onions. I'm even known to put chopped red cabbage in. As far as I can see there is no chilli police, we are free to interpret the meal as we wish:) I tend to cook it slow for hours, around 4 at a simmer. Still always tastes nicer warmed up the next day though:)

I'd also always serve with CHIPS (french fries), crusty bread and grated strong cheddar:)


Man I am hungry now....


Hurrikane
 
Hurrikane said:
Beans for me. A year in Mexico when a small child taught me several things; that iguanas can live happily in a roof space, machetes can remove gardener's toes and Chilli Con Carne means chilli with meat. Chilli with beans, onion, bell peppers, tomatos etc is the basic dish, Chilli Con Carne is that dish with meat added; complimenting, not replacing, the beans and other ingredients. That's how I always saw it.

My particular take on it involves Habanero/Tabasco hot sauce (sliced jalapeno's also as a vegetable:)) and diced steak in with the minced beef, along with tomato passata/chopped tomatoes, red kidney beans AND baked beans, thin sliced leeks and spring onions. I'm even known to put chopped red cabbage in. As far as I can see there is no chilli police, we are free to interpret the meal as we wish:) I tend to cook it slow for hours, around 4 at a simmer. Still always tastes nicer warmed up the next day though:)

I'd also always serve with CHIPS (french fries), crusty bread and grated strong cheddar:)


Man I am hungry now....


Hurrikane
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:laugh: I hear that! Sitting at work reading this wishing for a big hot bowl of chilli and some fresh rolls and butter.... :drool:
 
Blazing Saddles :silly2: Yes beans, unwashed beans. :laugh:
Pull My Finger :D
 
Given the bitter cold here, guess what I'm gonna make for dinner tonight?
:)
 
Chile con carne (the Mexican dish) has no beans.

Chili con carne (the Tex/Mex dish) does have beans.
 
We're missing 1 important piece of information here.

WHEN are you going to share the recipe??????

That's the ONLY way for each of us to judge Beans/No beans for ourselves. :)
 
We have always made it with beans!
 
Definitely beans.

Side note: Cucumber is best for cooling the tongue.
 
Taldora said:
Beans beans, the musical fruit...
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the more you eat, the more you toot???


We sing.....

Beans, beans, good for your heart,
the more you eat,
the more you fart:D

And i wonder why they call me Stinky;)


Stinky:yay:
 
my god man!

chilli con carne without beans is like sex without a girl....... much easier to make, but no where near as much fun
 
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