some thoughts
Ok, many hot discussions here, some interesting, some superfluous...
Although I do not represent MA in any way, I think I have a pretty clear understanding of the several parameters in this situation. Therefore I want to clarify a thing or two for everyone who does not understand, and for every other one who tries to find excuses to continue his/her actions.
History Lesson:
--- Phase 1---
No vehicles, walking backwards is a normal hunting strategy, to lower your decay, or walk towards the next mob. Note, 'lower' decay, not 'annihilate' it.
---Phase 2---
Wheel-based vehicles were introduced, when you jump into these, your vehicle will be damaged, some mobs are faster then your vehicle and will attack you.
---Phase 3---
Flying vehicles were introduced, when you jump into these, your vehicle will be damaged, untill you reach a certain height.
Problem 1
People start using vehicles for the normal ping-pong teamhunts. By doing this, if fast enough, they avoid all decay.
Problem 2
When people fly low over spawns of mobs, they gather a huge mobtrain that causes problems to others.
---Phase 4---
MA solves Problem2 by making mobs no longer agro towards vtols
Problem 1: People keep using their ping-pong teamhunt techiques vtol's included
Definition of the exploit:
Hunting with the following technique: damaging a mob from long distance, jumping into the undamageable vtol when the mob get near you, following by relocating yourself, or the mob (by a teammate), restart damaging the mob, and repeat this technique untill the mob is down.
Why is this an exploit?
- because MA says so by not denying what their support department has said. For serious issues, the support department asks MA first what to answer.
- because
support says so
- because
people who got locked for it say so
- because if you are honest within yourself, you know so.
- because this is not fair-play, it is sneeky and lame
- because the only reason that mobs don't agro on vtols, is because MA got complaints about ppl using vtols and mobtraining them. Hence non-agro Vtols were not made to hop in/out/in/out while killing 1 mob.
What is allowed?
- walking/running backwards and shooting a mob;
- driving away from mobs in vehicles that can take damage;
- jump into vtol to escape from a mobtrain or huuuge newspawn amount of mobs;
- shoot mob, die, return by vtol, continue hunting;
- jumping into your vtol, flying as high as u can, jumping out and dying.
Sollution:
- MA makes all mobs high-regain, very fast running. Is that what you want to achieve?
If someone hops in the vtol, zooms away, relands, and shoots the enemy again, that's something else. Hell, that's smart playing.
Sure, and photocopying and printing money is pretty smart as well, but sneeky and not honest.
(this has nothing to do with the issue whether the governments handle their money fair or not)
Mining with them is as bad, freakin miners driving or flying in dropping bombs agroing mobs they cant normally mine in on the hunter then flying or driving off, then when you park all the agroed mobs on there cliams they report you
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I have to agree on this. MA, put in a 60second
mining delay after jumping out of a vtol
BUT if MA gives you opportunity to do it then why not?
Sure I have the gear and opportunity to print money, let's do it
(nota: fictional statement)
MA did not intent to give people this opportunity.
They changed VTOL behaviour because ppl would fly across LA's creating huge herds of mobs.
So they quickly changed VTOL's so that they wouldn't agro mobs anymore.
exactly
amazing how heavily discussed this is, dont we have bigger issues in this universe to solve first?
MA has bigger things to do right now as well...but they may come back with a vengance :d
and why is it so damn bad to hunt with a vtol escape trick, you still need all the ammo you need to kill that mob,
Ammo is only 1 part of what you need to kill a mob. you also need gear and skills. Theoretically with this technique you could kill a warlock with (several decayed) opallo. Does that sound fair to you?
and even more because its health does recover while you escape.
this technique is only used on low-regain high-hp, high-dmg mobs, so your arguement doesn't hold its ground
Really pathetic responses here. So you all really think when MA introducted vtols that they meant to make skills and gear irrelevant, and wanted noobs like you to suddenly be able to hunt warlocks, osseocollum, etc. with zero armor/fap costs? Really?
It's an exploit and you all know it. People have been banned for using the exploit. Documented and public. You are all just trying to make excuses so you can exploit, period.
amen...
Whats the point, MA do nothing.
Its really wierd, in any other MMORPG that doesnt even involve real money you get banned for life, and in many cases character erased if cought cheating or using exploit, and here you get a little lock on your avatar and then its all good and forgotten.
Is there really a mmorpg that acts that fast, without a monthly fee to be paid?
If you have played for more than a year and don't understand why it's a problem if people of any skill level can kill any mob in the game without any armour or fap decay, you are an idiot.
a bit harsh, but true
Stop Making Excuses lol
I am not speaking for all, neither do I wish to generalise but:
Several greedy idiots try to squeeze out every pec they can by finding excuses for exploits, and hence not feeling guilty for their actions. On the other hand, their greed is what attracted them to EU and made the playerbase grow. When they find out that Ma is no charity organisation either, they get frustrated and try to get revenge. After a while they usually find out that MA is better and smarter at making money, then they are themselves.