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Considering the last one, I'm actually kind of glad they're not pushing ahead with just repeating it at least. I make more off finding regular Mining Strongboxes for "free" than I would paying to be able to mine the robot ones. I didn't really have an incentive to participate much in the event when I figured that out.
Yea, it was no fun to hunt to be able to get a box. Also need to find a claim with minimum value of 6 Ped was a bad idea. In my opinion, that was a very bad planed mining event. But at least, it was a mining event, and a try to do a bit more for miners.

That is the point i loved.
 

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Yea, it was no fun to hunt to be able to get a box. Also need to find a claim with minimum value of 6 Ped was a bad idea. In my opinion, that was a very bad planed mining event. But at least, it was a mining event, and a try to do a bit more for miners.

That is the point i loved.
We all know doing a mining event is very diffcult, mu is fragile as it is. With an event players will flood the market and kill the little mu there is. They could run a crafting event along it, but that has whole lot more diffrent issues. Sometimes you got think are we better of not having a mining event.
 

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We all know doing a mining event is very diffcult, mu is fragile as it is. With an event players will flood the market and kill the little mu there is. They could run a crafting event along it, but that has whole lot more diffrent issues. Sometimes you got think are we better of not having a mining event.
Yes, agree that this is not easy. But maybe it needs a bit more fantasy, what event are possible, and also about reward and prizes.

Just an idea:
It could be a special ore to find, only available at mining events. Also connected to some craft event, where this ore get used. This would not affect other things or MU of other stuffs. Also mining tokens would be an idea, to get some thing.

How i told, it maybe just need some fantasy to get ideas :)
 

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Yes, agree that this is not easy. But maybe it needs a bit more fantasy, what event are possible, and also about reward and prizes.

Just an idea:
It could be a special ore to find, only available at mining events. Also connected to some craft event, where this ore get used. This would not affect other things or MU of other stuffs. Also mining tokens would be an idea, to get some thing.

How i told, it maybe just need some fantasy to get ideas :)
A mining intance where only special ores and enmatters are availble. You have time limit so you can only enter intance for for so long. :D

Or make it similar to hunting, you mine for shrapnel, but have SOOTO. You also have cats so noob miners have a chance too.
 
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A mining intance where only special ores and enmatters are availble. You have time limit so you can only enter intance for for so long. :D
I like the idea of a mining instance :) Mining mayhem :yay:
 

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A mining intance where only special ores and enmatters are availble. You have time limit so you can only enter intance for for so long. :D

Or make it similar to hunting, you mine for shrapnel, but have SOOTO. You also have cats so noob miners have a chance too.
I am a noob miner and I enjoyed the last mining event a lot, made nice profit from it. I found one mining strongbox while finding 30+ robot cache strongboxes. So put in balance which strongbox category was more profitable for me...
I think the mining event was pretty good since it made a lot of hunters go (amped) mining after the mayhem which was good for everyone. Except for those that want to find towers with unamped tt tools.
Shame that that event is not included in this mayhem.
 

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I am a noob miner and I enjoyed the last mining event a lot, made nice profit from it. I found one mining strongbox while finding 30+ robot cache strongboxes. So put in balance which strongbox category was more profitable for me...
I think the mining event was pretty good since it made a lot of hunters go (amped) mining after the mayhem which was good for everyone. Except for those that want to find towers with unamped tt tools.
Shame that that event is not included in this mayhem.
I could say, but your hunter and so it was extra bonus for you, but you would also have to mine to get the robot cache strongboxes. Same as miner would have to have hunt in intance to get RDI.

Like Trance said at least MA made a effort last time.

I did have ago in mayhem last time, but i think i did the wrong one (i think it was defence) as i learned afterwards the other 1 you had more chance at getting more RDI.

If you like me, who know little about armour and guns etc. Who prefers just to mine, its a pain. I dont want to just buy a set of armour and gun to hunt so i can partake in a mining event.
 

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Indeed, have to deposit and messi had to do it too until he became chosen - he stayed chosen however while others dropped out (I am talking about grinding balance not seasonal events)
You were wrong from your first assumption - active hunters have to deposit in order to keep hunting.
 

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If you like me, who know little about armour and guns etc.
I am sorry, information is free and plenty. MA should not compensate for laziness too :D
I get it, you don't want to make extra efforts to do what you like, ok but then that's why there are competitions, because people are willing to push beyond that point, where you wanna chill after work on a big mob, high risk, high stakes.... This entire game is a competition so if you want to get good at it you have to know your stuff.
 

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I am sorry, information is free and plenty. MA should not compensate for laziness too :D
I get it, you don't want to make extra efforts to do what you like, ok but then that's why there are competitions, because people are willing to push beyond that point, where you wanna chill after work on a big mob, high risk, high stakes.... This entire game is a competition so if you want to get good at it you have to know your stuff.
Its not really laziness, but it more time consuming. Seaching forums, wiki and then shops or AH. I have worked hard over the years learning where to mine, what tool is best, what amp is best, time between spawns etc. My main proffession is miner, so i dont need guns, armour, fabs etc, but if i want to enter a mining event i have to buy all that stuff and spend hours hunting or pay mu on RDI.

I dont know where you got i want to chill after work on a big mob? I want to mine, not hunt after work. Its like if i want to enter a running race, but it has to be triathlon. Even though i cant ride a bike or swim very well.
 
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Its not really laziness, but it more time consuming. Seaching forums, wiki and then shops or AH. I have worked hard over the years learning where to mine, what tool is best, what amp is best, time between spawns etc. My main proffession is miner, so i dont need guns, armour, fabs etc, but if i want to enter a mining event i have to buy all that stuff and spend hours hunting or pay mu on RDI.

I don't know where you got i want to chill after work on a big mob? I want to mine, not hunt after work. Its like if i want to enter a running race, but it has to be triathlon. Even though i cant ride a bike or swim very well.
It is a matter of perspective and you are still missing the basics. It's a RCE and you have to work with the community anyway, for amps, finders etc. Last event all you had to do was to do what you love most + spend 37 and sell for 57 - 100% success rate, no exception. You would have made 20 ped per box. Almost the same as the mining box. EXCEPT the mining box is (was for me at least) a lot rarer.

If I would have applied your logic on my profession during FEN (or any major event where there is markup) I wouldn't have used enhancers or limited amps nor pills, because I don't want to pay markup - I would have turned half of what I did leaving me behind a lot.

Your fear of paying markup is not justified. You don't pay markup to make tt shit but you do pay markup to get more markup. And you should go for markup, not stay after tt, and be upset at MA for removing your chosen title...

Hard work, taking some risks, investing time and money in your character should reward you, not a raffle. Ok, I can understand you have no interest in hunting, I get that, but some of the materials that make mining amp come from hunting too and you pay for that markup, why does it suck in this case? Especially when the reward is much higher than usual? How is it different than what you do? You mine stuff not for collecting the stones for you but to sell it to other professions, with markup. You knowledge would have given you a much higher advantage than the newbie miners, like myself...
 

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It is a matter of perspective and you are still missing the basics. It's a RCE and you have to work with the community anyway, for amps, finders etc. Last event all you had to do was to do what you love most + spend 37 and sell for 57 - 100% success rate, no exception. You would have made 20 ped per box. Almost the same as the mining box. EXCEPT the mining box is (was for me at least) a lot rarer.

If I would have applied your logic on my profession during FEN (or any major event where there is markup) I wouldn't have used enhancers or limited amps nor pills, because I don't want to pay markup - I would have turned half of what I did leaving me behind a lot.

Your fear of paying markup is not justified. You don't pay markup to make tt shit but you do pay markup to get more markup. And you should go for markup, not stay after tt, and be upset at MA for removing your chosen title...

Hard work, taking some risks, investing time and money in your character should reward you, not a raffle. Ok, I can understand you have no interest in hunting, I get that, but some of the materials that make mining amp come from hunting too and you pay for that markup, why does it suck in this case? Especially when the reward is much higher than usual? How is it different than what you do? You mine stuff not for collecting the stones for you but to sell it to other professions, with markup. You knowledge would have given you a much higher advantage than the newbie miners, like myself...
I am sorry but i think you have gone completey of track and have lost me. I was discussing with Trance how we could make a mining event similier to the mayhem event. Yes they tweaked the event so some miners had some way interact, but its not the same. Would it really be that bad if they they did a similer event for miners? A instance where you could just mine, depending on mining profession what cat you go in, tool depth limited to cat etc. I do pay mu on tools, amps etc. There is no mining event this mayhem anyway and we dont seem to be getting anywhere with this disscussion. So yes i could of done that or that, but nothing i can do it about it this time. If they go down that road again i will be rethinking how the best way to go about it next time.

Just for record i am ok mining on RT, but once i leave that planet i am completely lost. You proberly have lot more knowladge of mining on Caly than me. I am really just a noob miner on a dead planet.
 
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Yes, agree that this is not easy. But maybe it needs a bit more fantasy, what event are possible, and also about reward and prizes.

Just an idea:
It could be a special ore to find, only available at mining events. Also connected to some craft event, where this ore get used. This would not affect other things or MU of other stuffs. Also mining tokens would be an idea, to get some thing.

How i told, it maybe just need some fantasy to get ideas :)
I really think the fix with mining is to start putting shrapnel loot also in mining. This would fix everything that is wrong with the market. We used to get peds in loot then they replaced it with with oils then markup tanked, shrapnel hasn't been a perfect fix but it has been better then all oils. The same bed to be done to mining and crafting, so that people can build there skills up without flooding the market or being forced to loose so as not to flood the market.

Then you can bring back mining events. Which I think should be a cycle between beacon / dungeon drops. Like to go with mayhem there would be a mulum dungeon key for miners to discover.
 
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I am sorry but i think you have gone completey of track and have lost me. I was discussing with Trance how we could make a mining event similier to the mayhem event. Yes they tweaked the event so some miners had some way interact, but its not the same. Would it really be that bad if they they did a similer event for miners? A instance where you could just mine, depending on mining profession what cat you go in, tool depth limited to cat etc. I do pay mu on tools, amps etc. There is no mining event this mayhem anyway and we dont seem to be getting anywhere with this disscussion. So yes i could of done that or that, but nothing i can do it about it this time. If they go down that road again i will be rethinking how the best way to go about it next time.

Just for record i am ok mining on RT, but once i leave that planet i am completely lost. You proberly have lot more knowladge of mining on Caly than me. I am really just a noob miner on a dead planet.
Just ignore him. He teaches his grandfather to fuck. Random small hunter riding smartass horse on forums. Sounds much like messi, who talks about others botting :laugh:
 

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Can confirm MA hates small people!

Depo'd $1000 this month and I have 100ped left :laugh:

But according to most with that back roll I should hunt Kerbs or Punnies! :D :D :D
Nope Kerbs is to big mob for that small bankroll, max Daiki youngs, not more.
To go for Kerbs you should have at least 20k PED :D
 

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I really think the fix with mining is to start putting shrapnel loot also in mining. This would fix everything that is wrong with the market. We used to get peds in loot then they replaced it with with oils then markup tanked, shrapnel hasn't been a perfect fix but it has been better then all oils. The same bed to be done to mining and crafting, so that people can build there skills up without flooding the market or being forced to loose so as not to flood the market.

Then you can bring back mining events. Which I think should be a cycle between beacon / dungeon drops. Like to go with mayhem there would be a mulum dungeon key for miners to discover.
I don't think it is a good idea. A lot of the ores i need to tt, i go crafting with it. If this where shrabnels, then less crafting hapen. The better idea would be to add ores and enm. to the proces of crafting ammo. Since we have projectile crafting, the ores have most no MU. It looked way other, before the casino slotmachine crafting.

I also dont like to conect mining events with hunting. It have enough hunt events, and none of those have mining elements integrated :)

So for miners, there is realy not much. Last event was a good idea, but why also hunting. Miners hate hunting, and they dont want buy stuff from hunters. A mining event should be mining only, without need to hunt. There are enough places, where miners need to hunt, to get to the claims. And always there are less places without any creatures. The funny thing, most of the mob free places are death mining places, about HR is a pain there.
 

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Where can I find more info on the rules? For example whats an HP(soft cap)? Or what is base dps? Im confused.

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Where can I find more info on the rules? For example whats an HP(soft cap)? Or what is base dps? Im confused.

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Soft cap will adjust your HP down if u have more but conform to other requirments

dps is the biggest weapon you are allowed to use. View info on a weapon and it will show you the damage/second, this is the base dps and you can add whatever amps etc u want to the weapon.
 

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Nope Kerbs is to big mob for that small bankroll, max Daiki youngs, not more.
To go for Kerbs you should have at least 20k PED :D
20k PEDs? Lol best u can do is 10-20HPs mobs

U need to sell your house (or open a restaurant near MA's office) for kerbs
 

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You knowledge would have given you a much higher advantage than the newbie miners, like myself...
Nah, on this you're wrong. There's no knowledge or experience needed to get a 6 ped claim. Highest chances are dropping 6 ped per search, so whatever amp and finder combo hits that and that's all. You don't need to know areas, you don't need to know depth of resources, you don't need to know refresh rate of claims, you don't need to know the market of various resources and speed of consumption, you don't need traders or crafters. You just need enough "mining" skills to use a 5 ped/click amp, which is as much achievement as maximizing adjusted bukin in hunting. E.g. lvl9 amp which is exactly 5 ped/click has required "prostanding" of... 6.

It is a conceptual problem of mining events, which is not touched at all. In mayhem, from hunting pov, you need to get some blackbox experience born out of experience, you need to experiment and fully use both ingame and IRL skills, you need a good meta on items, behaviour and skills etc. Simple direct bruteforce (deposit XXXXXXX and get into) will buy you nothing except the prize of the sucker of the game.

In mining this side of skills was never touched in any kind of event. How about something which requires only tridenite? How about something which you can't do without lvl XX in respective profession? How about finding belkar without going to shinook?

For that "mining" event, all you needed to do was have enough peds to use respective amps, nomatter where. That's not mining, just as shooting (for example) argonauts with piron ul is not hunting.
 

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Anyone else getting System 'result' messages from mayhem ?
 

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Anyone else getting System 'result' messages from mayhem ?
This is due to a small miss where they were not reset properly after last Summer Mayhem. They are only messages and do not affect anything, so anyone who has got them can safely ignore them. The issue should now also have been fixed, so any future log-ins will not cause further 'result' message spam.
 

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thanks for prompt response :)

Shame because i doubt anyone would have beaten my assault time of 26 seconds :laugh:
 

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thanks for prompt response :)

Shame because i doubt anyone would have beaten my assault time of 26 seconds :laugh:
13.891 here. Yours is a shame!!!! :cool:

Congratulations! You finished "Mayhem Annihilation 07" at position 9 with the time: 00:00:13.891.
 
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I had to abandon last year's summer mayhem. Sad that these things does not abandon automatically. Also will it count for max 3 resets?
 

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Not gettin points in annihilation atm.
Yep wasting my time, you would think these fools could get 1 single flawless mayhem event.....just one after 10 years of them. I cannot even fathom the level of incompetence it takes to maintain this level of consistent error.
 
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