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On 2013-04-03 16:55:49 SUPPORT replied:
Hi stoney,

Thank you for contacting us. This website is not endorsed by MA or any planet partner. If you make use of this service is at your own risk.

If you see other participants spamming with this messages please let us know.

Kind regards,
Cameron | Planet Calypso Support


On 2013-04-02 17:55:07 you wrote:
hello

There are a lot of people adverting in chat for entropiapartners.

Its very annoying and i think its illegal.

Please stop it or tell us its legal.

btw, i dont like it at all to be spammed with that stupidity.

greetings
 
Heheh, maybe they don't like it 'cause they have such thing of their own already (sometrics) :silly2:
 
Heheh, maybe they don't like it 'cause they have such thing of their own already (sometrics) :silly2:
Yea, which doesn't work for me :\



If something is not officially "endorsed" does it make it outright illegal? ...i mean, there's nothing in the EULA about trading PED between players.
And really, it's not in MindArk's interest to stop people from cashing in through these sites. So i see no reason for them to step in.
The sweat market is pretty much dead, and these sites are one of the few ways non-depositors can still get funds to play.

The more people play this game and spend PED, the higher the odds that You will get a Global/HoF ...so maybe you could be a big boy and put up with a bit of chat spam from noobs. Or just turn off general/trade chats if it bothers you so.
 
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Yea, which doesn't work for me :\




If something is not officially "endorsed" does it make it outright illegal? ...i mean, there's nothing in the EULA about trading PED between players.
And really, it's not in MindArk's interest to stop people from cashing in through these sites. So i see no reason for them to step in.
The sweat market is pretty much dead, and these sites are one of the few ways non-depositors can still get funds to play.

The more people play this game and spend PED, the higher the odds that You woill get a Global/HoF ...so maybe you could be a big boy and put up with a bit of chat spam from noobs. Or just turn off general/trade chats if it bothers you so.

its just copy paste from my support question. no more.

my opinion is mine and not in question, i just want the answer published and i dont cut it in half
 
A disciple of mine tried it and said that "it works but sweating is faster and more reliable", not to mention that it gives defense skills, so they don't really bring in any revolution or threaten the system, which is why MA probably doesn't care much. Although the spamming is annoying indeed, sometimes Icarus local chat consists solely of the same shit from 3-4 different people.
 
On 2013-04-03 16:55:49 SUPPORT replied:
Hi stoney,

Thank you for contacting us. This website is not endorsed by MA or any planet partner. If you make use of this service is at your own risk.

If you see other participants spamming with this messages please let us know.

Kind regards,
Cameron | Planet Calypso Support


On 2013-04-02 17:55:07 you wrote:
hello

There are a lot of people adverting in chat for entropiapartners.

Its very annoying and i think its illegal.

Please stop it or tell us its legal.

btw, i dont like it at all to be spammed with that stupidity.

greetings

Are you aware that "Not endorsed" does not mean illegal? It only means that MA does not accept any liability for the contents of such a website, nor is involved in it in any way.

So I cannot comply to your request, and instead tell you that it is, indeed, legal to have a website which is all about EU.
 
So I cannot comply to your request, and instead tell you that it is, indeed, legal to have a website which is all about EU.

Sure, but since they provide an external service of a kind, not sure how it comply with

EULA 2.2.V said:
No peripheral services or goods. The Participant may not provide any peripheral services or goods related to the Entropia Universe System. MindArk reserves the right to revoke this limitation either generally or in specific cases.
 
Are you aware that "Not endorsed" does not mean illegal? It only means that MA does not accept any liability for the contents of such a website, nor is involved in it in any way.

So I cannot comply to your request, and instead tell you that it is, indeed, legal to have a website which is all about EU.

Are you aware its about the spamming?
 
is there a society for it? If so, MA might let it go since they let you spam about society websites in game. If not, go get em and keep reporting it.
 
Why on earth is this even being discussed?

So a group of people have gotten together and decided to support a group that pays people PED to take a bunch of surveys.

Who cares?

I mean, the PED comes from someone depositing into the system. It's then distributed amongst the low level population who likely will spend ALL of it, thus contributing to the overall loot pool.

Really, what's to be so uptight about? No, dont answer that. I already know. You dont like it, so you want to make sure it goes away and nobody gets to enjoy it. But your answer will try to make this action sound somehow heroic when its just petty.

If you dont like their service, leave them alone and dont refer others to it. Pretty simple.
 
From what I know Entropia Partners society has that website...You should speak with the leader Tia...after all are Eu Partners ...(hint they dev a new planet)
 
I got the same answer from my support case about it - I took it as:

"we dont care if you use it, just dont come crying to us if you dont get paid'
 
Only one thought from here -
As you are getting peds with unknown records, these peds might have been obtained via credit card fraud and your account will be locked. So unless you want to risk your whole avatar for few peds stay away.
 
Sure, but since they provide an external service of a kind, not sure how it comply with

Nice rule, but.... that doesn't make the site illegal per say. You see, the EULA isn't legally binding. I could tell my mother to begin a business where she sells EU information for US$. As long as she isn't playing the game, she also never accepted the EULA.
 
whole point of that site is that you get paid a few pec or whatever for watchin a video or doin some online mini jobs, nothin illegal about it PTC sites have been around for ages doing the same thing some of them pay better than the site in question ;) and some people make a bucks off em (although i think this is the first one that pays in ped). No harm in lettin the non depositors use the site to get some extra income :rolleyes:
 
I think the main purpose of the OP is "quit spamming the hell out of your referrer ID"
 
I haven't seen too much spamming from people blasting there referral id. Which btw the referral system has got to be a joke seeing what they pay for a referee. There are much easier ways to earn money online.

I do see a problem with it existing only because MA is teamed up with Sometrics, which offers a similar platform. This site could be viewed as competition. Although, I think Sometrics has it beat.
 
this site only distributes PED which is already in game -- sometrics gives PED that has not already been in-game. big difference.
 
this site only distributes PED which is already in game -- sometrics gives PED that has not already been in-game. big difference.

O'rly? care to discuss the intricate details of your less than thought out post? We are talking about very little ped in the grand scheme of things. The value of ped does not deteriorate so whether or not its Sometrics or this other website it simply does not matter. They Are very similar websites focusing on the exact same player base offering the exact same service.

Btw to stay on topic, I did just see someone spamming Icarus with a referral code. somewhat annoying but I have seen worse.
 
OP is complaining about the spam. Not about the service.

Which makes his topic line misleading, and his attitude completely unwarranted. Why is this spam any less OK than the spam of people selling various goods, advertising for their societies, or getting globals?

It is a market activity. If you dont like the product, dont buy the product, and dont endorse it to others. If enough people agree with you the product will die. It really is that simple.

Trying to involve MindArk in this dispute is juvenile.
 
Funny thing is that now local chat arguments about the site's legitimacy take 10x much space than the advertising itself :D
 
Funny thing is that now local chat arguments about the site's legitimacy take 10x much space than the advertising itself :D

Gotta love it! Self righteous people behaving poorly. Just like those incidents in PA when a certain few community advisers flipped out and started threatening people at the beach.

Sometimes its better to just leave things alone.
 
Note from the co-founder

Just an update.

We are waiting for an official "Approval" from MA. We have submitted everything required for the same and they are looking at it.

I hate spamming myself, and wish I could do something about that. This service is new to EU; we have been running it for months for Second Life users. SL has provisions where you can click on an ad-board and open a website (a way of referring people). But EU and SL are two different worlds.

On another note, almost 91% referrals to our website come from the web.

Drop me a PM if you have specific questions.

Cheers,
Tia
www.EntropiaPartners.com
 
A disciple of mine tried it and said that "it works but sweating is faster and more reliable", not to mention that it gives defense skills, so they don't really bring in any revolution or threaten the system, which is why MA probably doesn't care much. Although the spamming is annoying indeed, sometimes Icarus local chat consists solely of the same shit from 3-4 different people.

OK at the risk of "spamming" my own referral id ;) I have done a comprehensive review of the site for Entropia Planets that can be viewed here. Personally I have found Entropia Partners (yes that is my referral link ;) )to be a better earner than sweating (although sweating is more fun/sociable). If you are interested in the details/numbers take a look at my findings.

Why on earth is this even being discussed?

So a group of people have gotten together and decided to support a group that pays people PED to take a bunch of surveys.

Who cares?

I mean, the PED comes from someone depositing into the system. It's then distributed amongst the low level population who likely will spend ALL of it, thus contributing to the overall loot pool.

Really, what's to be so uptight about? No, dont answer that. I already know. You dont like it, so you want to make sure it goes away and nobody gets to enjoy it. But your answer will try to make this action sound somehow heroic when its just petty.

If you dont like their service, leave them alone and dont refer others to it. Pretty simple.

Have to say I agree. I can't really see the issue with the site. It only brings money into the game.

From what I know Entropia Partners society has that website...You should speak with the leader Tia...after all are Eu Partners ...(hint they dev a new planet)

Tia is a planet partner developer? o_O - well that is a new one! Which planet prey tell?

I got the same answer from my support case about it - I took it as:

"we dont care if you use it, just dont come crying to us if you dont get paid'

I concur with that analysis.

Only one thought from here -
As you are getting peds with unknown records, these peds might have been obtained via credit card fraud and your account will be locked. So unless you want to risk your whole avatar for few peds stay away.

Remind me not to trade with anyone.... ever again... Seriously this is a daft point. Anyone can fraudulently deposit into the game with a stolen credit card or a credit card that they then cancel the deposit with. Same situation with any other business. Although its never been confirmed, the general feeling is that avoiding credit card issues is the main reason why withdrawals take so long.

I haven't seen too much spamming from people blasting there referral id. Which btw the referral system has got to be a joke seeing what they pay for a referee. There are much easier ways to earn money online.

I do see a problem with it existing only because MA is teamed up with Sometrics, which offers a similar platform. This site could be viewed as competition. Although, I think Sometrics has it beat.

Pig can you make some suggestions? As I pointed out in my review (see above for link) all "money earning" activites in/related to entropia are not highly paid when compared for example to a job. What other simple methods would you suggest that are better? I'm quite interested really.

Sometrics is an interesting one... I have found it useless so far... mainly due to little support/offers in the UK. So from that point of view the Entropia Partners is better.

this site only distributes PED which is already in game -- sometrics gives PED that has not already been in-game. big difference.

Disagree. The cash comes in to the owner from external sources that is then deposited into the game when users want to withdraw. Obviously the owner will be keeping a certain amount in the "float" in the game though just for ready cash purposes.

OP is complaining about the spam. Not about the service.

Funny thing is that now local chat arguments about the site's legitimacy take 10x much space than the advertising itself :D

True.. that is annoying I'll grant you.

Just an update.

We are waiting for an official "Approval" from MA. We have submitted everything required for the same and they are looking at it.

I hate spamming myself, and wish I could do something about that. This service is new to EU; we have been running it for months for Second Life users. SL has provisions where you can click on an ad-board and open a website (a way of referring people). But EU and SL are two different worlds.

On another note, almost 91% referrals to our website come from the web.

Drop me a PM if you have specific questions.

Cheers,
Tia
www.EntropiaPartners.com

Good luck. Personally I think you guys have done a lot of work on setting up a good initiative. I wish you all the best in getting endorsed and also in improving your site/experience.

Just my thoughts
Wistrel
 
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SL has provisions where you can click on an ad-board and open a website (a way of referring people). But EU and SL are two different worlds.

Hopefully when MA finish the implementation of Awesomium, we'll have interactive ad-boards too.
 
Wistrel, i'm not sure what your negrep about https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...not-endorsed&p=3096845&viewfull=1#post3096845 that was, kinda doesn't make any sense.
Aaaanyways, i never said, that MA has said anything about any of this, as you can see on that post, that i didn't say, that they said anything, yet you negrep me for saying that they said something, or... what? Yea, i'm a bit clueless.

Or is this just a random negrep party going on?
 
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