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Xen said:
Planet creation is very likely to be very, very expensive. Most people will be left just trying to take advantage by farming resources to supply the well heeled.
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This seems very likely to me. As a result, it will be important for MA to have a system in place for the owner of the planet to give "creator/builder" privileges to non-owner avatars....i could see some owners as effectively "investors" or people who know what they want, but not how to create it, where they then hire creator-type players (say, paying them with shares of the planet).
 
I'm here for the creativity and the possibility of breathing new life into the game. But as others have said, I'm worried that items I grinded for on other planets may vanish. If I end up getting TT value for my Imperium Plates or Refurbished H.E.A.R.T. FAP I'm going to quit.

Secondly, as anyone who has spent time in games like Second Life knows, in areas that aren't strictly themed you end up with a horrible mash-up of all sorts of crap that looks like someone kicked over a child's toy chest. Take for example Fortnite's creator program, do you really want to see areas that are just mob corridors with crazy respawn rates? When you can stand in one spot to shoot a creature it will diminish the already sparse population out in the open world.
 
Definitely has the potential to be an awesome VU - whenever it happens.
Like others pointed out - this could have used significantly more information or maybe even a Q&A format.
Significant doubts on MA's ability to introduce this in any capacity without it being riddled with bugs
 
Spawn said:
This game has been running for over 20 years. Competitors like afterworld, pion perished. Second life is still here with 48k players. For a game without any planning, and stupid ideas (compets) it's done fairly well.
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Yes, in spite of many terrible decisions and halfassed implementations it survived. It survived on many promises and lies, which is not really the best or most ethic business practice.

Also people do love playing with real money, and also many gambling 😉
Ofcourse not the whole game is gambling, but some people lost significant amounts treating it as casino.

In reality, only Afterworld tried to be competition, but since it never went RCE it cannot be considered competition. PION was always just a fun project of like 2 people, and no RCE. So NO, EU never had any real competition.

If there was real competition they would have to change their way significantly. Since there is none we either accept what they do or leave.

But we can still criticise the steps. Feedback from customers is important.
 
This is what it is they make the last investors investment worthless. The planetpartners. This crashes the deeds already.
 
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ProActive Mango said:
Mindark for fuck sake.... i cant hold my words so there will be curse words.

How can you release this information WITH ZERO explanation of what the new system will do?

What is this half asses explanation of those who do not adhear to the program will be deleted.

WHAT are the compensations for those who holds arkadia underground deeds, arkadia moon deeds? You can no simply just say that players will be compensated. YOU HAVE to say WHAT you will compenate the players with.
You are a company that are on the stock market and if you litterly just fuck with players investment like this with zero explanation you are set to fail hard!

EXPLAIN BETTER!
DO BETTER FOR FUCK SAKE.

How nochalant to just trow out half asses info like that when you know alot of players investments are at stake.

This will not be the end of it....
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They have to compensate with the peds we invested cos we invested it in Arkadia so they have to check what we paid for and pay the peds back end of discussion time they have to pay for what they make. We dont want Rocktropia deeds or whatever worth nothing or best they giveus at end competdeeds for our ark deeds.....
 
NEVERDIE said:
If this is done in the right way, I could see Millions of People wanting to fiddle around with a tool that allows them to create a world.
And then they create their avatars to step inside their world and then they go visit other worlds and suddenly we have alot of people exploring the Universe.
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Sounds for me like a copy paste of COMPET advertisment
And we all remember that disaster.....
www.entropiauniverse.com

Entropia Universe - ComPet-app-deeds

Finally you will be able to play the Entropia Universe(EU) on different platforms.
www.entropiauniverse.com
 
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Alot of you are really tripping out over a new Player owned Land Area System. Chill all the way out. And most likely the PP's will conform to the new system. give it some time.
 
Sometimes people do smart things. Like invest in growing their player base and making a game better.

Then there’s Mindark: “what if we had a billion planets and 5,000 players. That’s like 20 planets per player!” (Rips another hit of whatever it is they’re smoking)
 
Lorespade said:
Alot of you are really tripping out over a new Player owned Land Area System. Chill all the way out. And most likely the PP's will conform to the new system. give it some time.
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Keep counting your deeds and snortin blow, until your returns are zero.
 
Planet Calypso, ROCKtropia, Next Island, ARIS, Monria, Howling Mine and Secret Island will all adopt the Genesis Project technology. However, any existing planet that elects not to transition to the new development tools will face a cataclysmic extinction event within four years ( Hold Over Period). Players holding deeds or items from planets choosing not to transition will be offered compensation options via other participating planets.

So not Cyrene Interesting
 
Fanan said:
People just assume too much...

And why can't you reveal the name of the new planet? What have Mindark to lose with it?
It seems there will be plenty of new planets in a near future, will Mindark patent the names of them all?

What makes more sense to me is that ALL the names on that list, aside from Monria (but it is the Calypso moon), belong to Mindark!
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Just for clarification ... Monria is not a Calypso Moon as defined in the Q&A document posted at the EU Buzz website in 2013 when it was being put up for auction ... here is the link that verifies the response to the question ...

www.entropiauniverse.com

Entropia Universe - Moon-Estate-FAQ

Q: If I deposit funds and bid on the moon auction, will MindArk forego the withdrawal fee for unsuccessful bidders? A: Yes. The withdrawal fee will be
www.entropiauniverse.com
 
DME | Virtualsense said:
Just for clarification ... Monria is not a Calypso Moon as defined in the Q&A document posted at the EU Buzz website in 2013 when it was being put up for auction ... here is the link that verifies the response to the question ...

www.entropiauniverse.com

Entropia Universe - Moon-Estate-FAQ

Q: If I deposit funds and bid on the moon auction, will MindArk forego the withdrawal fee for unsuccessful bidders? A: Yes. The withdrawal fee will be
www.entropiauniverse.com
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Does it belong to Mindark or Virtualsense?
 
aVaLON_52 said:
Does it belong to Mindark or Virtualsense?
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I would say Virtualsense, that also owns Toulan.

But game wise, Monria is the Calyspo moon, you farm the same daily tokens there and can even teleport from there to Calypso for free now. So technically it's the Calypso moon.

@DME | Virtualsense
Thanks for the link, interesting to find out there the following information.

Q: Can the Moon Operator use its own team to develop the moon estate?
A: No. All initial and future development will be performed by MindArk.
 
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It's like who checks the fact checkers? What is this software that declares an 84% probability of AI generation?
There is info that wouldn't be simply AI, so what was the AI's task, fluff up a prepared set of information, or what?
It doesn't look like anything particulary AI to me if compared to MA's texts of the past before AI was considered a contender.
 
Anyways, since we're all using AI these days I figured I'd ask AI to try to find the real meaning behind the opening post:

🛠️ What are the "tools"?​


  • The "tools" are Genesis Probes and the associated planet creation/management interface.
  • These are development tools for users (and Planet Partners) to create, design, terraform, and evolve their own planets inside Entropia Universe.
  • It's prompt-based initially (maybe similar to AI generation prompts) and ongoing updates — so you can start small and iterate on your planet.

This would open planet-building to players (with some cost — I'll come back to that) and replace the old system where only officially contracted Planet Partners could do it.



🔥 What does "extinction event" mean?​


  • Planets that do not migrate to the Genesis Probe system (the new tools and structure) will be shut down after a 4-year "Hold Over Period."
  • Extinction event here = forced closure of planets that don't upgrade to the new model.

Basically: “Update or die.”
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If a planet doesn’t move over, it’ll be removed, all assets tied to it will become unusable (without compensation), and the entire economy tied to it will collapse.



💸 What kind of "compensation" are they talking about?​


  • Deed holders (people who own shares of a planet, like Calypso Land Deeds or similar) and item owners (people who have items exclusive to a particular planet) will be offered some form of compensation.
  • Compensation could involve:
    • Transfers of deed value to other planets.
    • Item trade-ins or conversion to equivalent items on active planets.
    • Maybe even PED payouts, but that's unclear.

🛑 BUT, based on MindArk's past behavior, compensation may not be 1:1 fair. There’s a high likelihood they’ll offer a partial PED amount, or a forced trade for deeds/items you didn’t really want.
(There's precedent for MindArk being... creatively interpretive with compensation.)



🧩 Is this blackmail or just evolution?​


Honestly, it’s borderline corporate blackmail.


  • They are telling Planet Partners: "Use the new system and stay alive, or your world dies."
  • They are telling players: "If your favorite planet dies, we’ll throw you some scraps."
  • It's also forcing old developers to pay to modernize (because integrating into Genesis Probes will require investment and dev effort), or be phased out.
  • Meanwhile, MindArk makes a ton of money from selling Genesis Probes and taxing planet operations.


💵 Is there a cost involved for players?​


Absolutely yes.


  • You will have to manufacture and launch Genesis Probes to start your own planet.
  • In Entropia Universe, manufacture = crafting, and crafting always requires materials bought with real-world cash.
  • Genesis Probes will cost PED to create (and PED is bought with dollars at a 10:1 exchange rate).
  • Maintaining or evolving your planet will likely have additional costs.
  • It’ll also be monetized via the Entropia Exchange — MindArk gets transaction fees whenever deeds are sold.

In short:
👉 Players who want to build planets will pay MindArk real money to participate.
👉 Planet owners must invest to migrate to Genesis tech, or they’ll be killed off.



📜 Hidden Nuances:​


  • User-generated content sounds fun, but it's ultimately about MindArk offloading development costs onto players.
  • Population growth is framed as the goal, but in reality, this is a survival move — MindArk needs new planets and new money flowing in, because Entropia's playerbase has stagnated.
  • Deed management: Only the majority deed holder gets to control the planet design. If multiple players own a planet via deeds, whoever owns >50% gets control.
  • Risk shift: The risk of failure (dead planets, bad designs) now shifts to players and investors, not MindArk.


⚡ Short Version:​


  • Genesis Probes = new paid tools for planet building.
  • Extinction Event = forced shutdown of non-upgraded planets.
  • Compensation = maybe partial reimbursement, but expect it to be in MindArk’s favor.
  • Cost = absolutely real-world money involved, hidden under "crafting" and "management."
  • Blackmail? Slightly — it’s corporate pressure disguised as innovation.
 
this could have massive potential .. imagine a universe shaped by the very people that inhabit it ..
who knows what adventures we could have, with so much to explore .. however....

as with anything it depends on who gets to use these tools and their motivations and creativity .. if any
personally i think it will be unavailable to most players . just the rich top elite that always seem to get and control everything
and their motivations are usually .. can i dominate it? can i profit on it? .. can i automate it ?

dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with trying to make a successful empire and try to make some money but
not everyone is motivated by dominance and profit and afking to do it 99% of the time

a game should be played by players and be engaging so people actually want to play not afk it and be telling their friends to
come join in

as long as the game is run and controlled by the same people with the same mentality that prioritizes control and profit over
quality of content and gameplay then not much will change . the same people will do the same things and the player base
will fluctuate but not grow much if at all

the only reason i still play is cos of some of the strange nice people i have met in game otherwise id have already moved on
however i have hopes that 1 day maybe entropia could be more than it currently is and not break the bank to be able to play it lol

i have so many ideas for an amazing planet with tons of storylines adventure and activity .. something for everyone regardless
of how much ped they have or what their current progress and skill is .. i would also need help from like minded people
that care about quality gaming over profit and work hard to bring fun and enjoyment to others we wouldnt release anything
we wouldnt play and enjoy ourselves :)

i know not all will aggree with what ive said but this is my view and opinion from my experience and im entitled that that the same
as everyone else is

i just try to enjoy the game best i can with people and want it to be enjoyable and affordable to all
even if a rich elite player was to say ok fine play on my account for a month unlimited gear and peds lets see if u feel the same once uve had a taste of the top end of the game i dont think much would change for me as the only thing id be interested in is big game hunting that needs good attention and skill and in some cases a welll organised team .. as for pvp?..
nah id get bored killing people that cant or wont fight back and present no challenge to me and be bored standing on a land grab in hopes maybe some might come to put up a good fight ,
maybe paying to win dominance appeals to some but to me nah lol

im sure some will come kill me on rig or try to harrass me in game as they do to feel special and powerful or whatever .. infact there are some saddos that try so hard to stalk me and figure out when im in game and where i am that im not sure if i should feel flattered or disturbed .. anyway thats just my 2 cents cya around :)
 
-JJ- said:
this could have massive potential .. imagine a universe shaped by the very people that inhabit it ..
who knows what adventures we could have, with so much to explore .. however....

as with anything it depends on who gets to use these tools and their motivations and creativity .. if any
personally i think it will be unavailable to most players . just the rich top elite that always seem to get and control everything
and their motivations are usually .. can i dominate it? can i profit on it? .. can i automate it ?

dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with trying to make a successful empire and try to make some money but
not everyone is motivated by dominance and profit and afking to do it 99% of the time

a game should be played by players and be engaging so people actually want to play not afk it and be telling their friends to
come join in

as long as the game is run and controlled by the same people with the same mentality that prioritizes control and profit over
quality of content and gameplay then not much will change . the same people will do the same things and the player base
will fluctuate but not grow much if at all

the only reason i still play is cos of some of the strange nice people i have met in game otherwise id have already moved on
however i have hopes that 1 day maybe entropia could be more than it currently is and not break the bank to be able to play it lol

i have so many ideas for an amazing planet with tons of storylines adventure and activity .. something for everyone regardless
of how much ped they have or what their current progress and skill is .. i would also need help from like minded people
that care about quality gaming over profit and work hard to bring fun and enjoyment to others we wouldnt release anything
we wouldnt play and enjoy ourselves :)

i know not all will aggree with what ive said but this is my view and opinion from my experience and im entitled that that the same
as everyone else is

i just try to enjoy the game best i can with people and want it to be enjoyable and affordable to all
even if a rich elite player was to say ok fine play on my account for a month unlimited gear and peds lets see if u feel the same once uve had a taste of the top end of the game i dont think much would change for me as the only thing id be interested in is big game hunting that needs good attention and skill and in some cases a welll organised team .. as for pvp?..
nah id get bored killing people that cant or wont fight back and present no challenge to me and be bored standing on a land grab in hopes maybe some might come to put up a good fight ,
maybe paying to win dominance appeals to some but to me nah lol

im sure some will come kill me on rig or try to harrass me in game as they do to feel special and powerful or whatever .. infact there are some saddos that try so hard to stalk me and figure out when im in game and where i am that im not sure if i should feel flattered or disturbed .. anyway thats just my 2 cents cya around :)
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I say ban rich players from the game
 
-JJ- said:
this could have massive potential .. imagine a universe shaped by the very people that inhabit it ..
who knows what adventures we could have, with so much to explore .. however....

as with anything it depends on who gets to use these tools and their motivations and creativity .. if any
personally i think it will be unavailable to most players . just the rich top elite that always seem to get and control everything
and their motivations are usually .. can i dominate it? can i profit on it? .. can i automate it ?

dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with trying to make a successful empire and try to make some money but
not everyone is motivated by dominance and profit and afking to do it 99% of the time

a game should be played by players and be engaging so people actually want to play not afk it and be telling their friends to
come join in

as long as the game is run and controlled by the same people with the same mentality that prioritizes control and profit over
quality of content and gameplay then not much will change . the same people will do the same things and the player base
will fluctuate but not grow much if at all

the only reason i still play is cos of some of the strange nice people i have met in game otherwise id have already moved on
however i have hopes that 1 day maybe entropia could be more than it currently is and not break the bank to be able to play it lol

i have so many ideas for an amazing planet with tons of storylines adventure and activity .. something for everyone regardless
of how much ped they have or what their current progress and skill is .. i would also need help from like minded people
that care about quality gaming over profit and work hard to bring fun and enjoyment to others we wouldnt release anything
we wouldnt play and enjoy ourselves :)

i know not all will aggree with what ive said but this is my view and opinion from my experience and im entitled that that the same
as everyone else is

i just try to enjoy the game best i can with people and want it to be enjoyable and affordable to all
even if a rich elite player was to say ok fine play on my account for a month unlimited gear and peds lets see if u feel the same once uve had a taste of the top end of the game i dont think much would change for me as the only thing id be interested in is big game hunting that needs good attention and skill and in some cases a welll organised team .. as for pvp?..
nah id get bored killing people that cant or wont fight back and present no challenge to me and be bored standing on a land grab in hopes maybe some might come to put up a good fight ,
maybe paying to win dominance appeals to some but to me nah lol

im sure some will come kill me on rig or try to harrass me in game as they do to feel special and powerful or whatever .. infact there are some saddos that try so hard to stalk me and figure out when im in game and where i am that im not sure if i should feel flattered or disturbed .. anyway thats just my 2 cents cya around :)
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This just makes me want to spend more time at the rig tbf. See you soon :)
 
James Jimbo Linehan said:
It's absolutely terrible that this is exactly what everyone (who wants to actually make a profit) will do AKA pull a mindark: make everything bottable make sure no one wants to actually play the game as a game and kick the can down the road until no ones left. As players who have no choice but to do this it makes sense because they know how MA has this game setup for it. As for MindArk it makes 0 sense shooting for these short term gains for garenteed long term huge damage to the game.

Point being... before MA launches this crap they better make dam sure the game is set up where active playing at least have a slight advantage instead or it'll continue to decline and everyone will make boring ass planets designed as a botfest instead of interesting/nice looking planet to bring more players. I have 1 way to fix all their/our problems if they want to send me a 1 second message ill spend hours making it and typing it up .. or they can find another way but something needs to happen before this thats for sure... unless the new generation is looking for a game where you don't have to actually play it or play it and lose to those who don't play it? I've been out of the gaming industry loop for a while so I could be wrong.
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i never understood why players are so damn concern what so called botters do? where this interest on how they spend their money to?

if players want to play active go play active, i did not saw a single "botter" minding where an active is doing his business, not a single one gives a crap... be active and go for it... full in
... also be ready to bring the money for an active play cause the ones with the pockets maybe are not interested in any active playing but seems everyone who is looking at them is asking for them to pe part of whatever they do... why?
...well for once because they have gear, i mean money, because they have skills i mean money, they matter so i don't understand where this come from in the first place?
...as always... they are the problem but they are the solution for the many players in terms of... knowledge, insight, data collected and many more

so why ppl do care if they do their playing as they like, silently in their corner minding their business? why everyone insists to make them " active " when they only want netflix and a peace of mind
... i m 100% sure if the active gaming will be soo damn interesting and demanding the pm's inside game will be towards those who have "the money" "the gear" "the data"
... i m 100% sure if active game will "have a slight advantage" u will see every " botter" skilled so high afk or whatever semi afk they did ready to play the game as they like and most of them will chose to play alone, in silence away from all the drama the player base will have as always either if the game is "slight better" or "the same" or "perfect"... drama never stops.

... 10k pages of this forum are towards the "botters" and they dont even fking care... and are made by low ranking players who look up at the others playing with the big toys...
 
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