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put bones to tt terminal, still 1 ped cost.


For KIM : just disable entrence to WSS soc, ebcause where is wss soc , there is exploits , mobtrains, ks and all unhappy.
As there was no problem when stryker, akon and others grinded mobs and got 50+ bones per less than 2 months and noone was complaning.

so rly, 1. make "no wss" hunt zones where bones will drop from every mob but wss cannot enter
2 . put bones to tt terminal


Deny what i have sayd and i thow a stone to you :)
becuase you understand yourself, even by making rly fair event with core mm we had complains about terminator, so ruin playing for other people who are trying to survive in this game by playing it 20/7 , if you dont believe, check wss online times, and see if there is really need to nerf theyr hard work or even compare it wih such players as isma or others who is verry brave to enter this thread but never entered cave.

I already tired to see how people is trying hard to get on top of best players in game, and others just trye to nerf them because they not play here but WORK hard .

Nice wok kim , i will see what will come to cave after you change system.
And i am 100% shior that noone will say thanx to you, because after this thread was posted, noone came to cave, even me , because it will not change anything, and wss still will be "hard workers" to ma and "exploiters" to others.

I noticed Ma made absolutely new boss spawn system in cave, they made mob AI that mobs do not move to not enter cave corners.
Everything was awsome and was alot hard work done.
But what people made to do ? :
1 . Reduce cave zone return to 80%
2. Removed (angel / shadow parts)
3. Lowered item drop to absolutely minimum.

Why noone hunts there? because Fucking forum trolls and people who never enter cave made you to make mob loot all tt?
You all made all hunters leave this place because made loot so shit that people cannot hunt there any more.

Return loot to mobs and you will not need to find some other way to change something. Because now you made system that if you hunt more - you loose everything .

I was thinking that making 5000 aurli mission with getting onnly tt shit giving 5% tax to land owned and finishing mission by force and losing alot money is worth enought to enter place where people can hunt and get better return or mu than other places.

But i see i was wrong.
I respect you KIM, but dont be a forum trols buch and open your eyes and see what game truelly need, not making changes that still will not give more action in game.
and if you "upgrade" cave to x mob kills, and aftter it 24h random spawn in random place. You will see not a more players killing tt shit mobs, but another selling out threads.

Ant these players who is checking this thread and jsut eating popcorns rather depositing 10usd to game will not even put a finger to come and trye to shoot. Because LOOT SUX and you do NOTHING to change it.

Old times ago was - grinding gives proffit
Now days - grinding will broke you. Because in first version of game was - Pay to play , or Grind to play . Now you made : Play with stick in ass but still need to pay.


Suggestion to KIM, stop doing shit like boss spawns, chat "upgrades" that not even see globals now. But Do thing that people care, find exploiters, find where loot is gone for people who is actually depositing to game real money.
and if you dont know how to do that, give your job to people who understand how to do it.

GL, and dont be mad, because all people are mad for cruel truth.
 

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They will have randomized spawn locations so you wont be able to see that a boss has spawned just by looking at the radar.
Still bad idea I think you wanna people camp the bones or you wanna them to hunt :p
 

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Still bad idea I think you wanna people camp the bones or you wanna them to hunt :p
He only wants that all be happy such like you and dont fuck his mind with unhappy faces. But world is cruel , you cannot be good for all.
 
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He only wants that all be happy . But world is cruel , you cannot be good for all.
You keep mention wss I really don't see anyone calling names or wss names I don't get you point about wss this wss that :scratch2:
still don't get

I thing I haven't even mention wss I been reading and all I see is people wanna the bones to add to the normal mobs someone well hunt them especially if the add mission


But I still don't get the wss part :scratch2:
 

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You keep mention wss I really don't see anyone calling names or wss names I don't get you point about wss this wss that :scratch2:
still don't get

I thing I haven't even mention wss I been reading and all I see is people wanna the bones to add to the normal mobs someone well hunt them especially if the add mission


But I still don't the wss part :scratch2:
yes you change wss name to exploiters, waiters, zverys , unfair.

let me ask you ? when you was in cave and was hunted mobs in there ? except that mobs you kill "dotty" to make a way to "free" larva pool.
 

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I already tired to see how people is trying hard to get on top of best players in game, and others just trye to nerf them because they not play here but WORK hard .

I noticed Ma made absolutely new boss spawn system in cave, they made mob AI that mobs do not move to not enter cave corners.
Everything was awsome and was alot hard work done.
But what people made to do ? :
1 . Reduce cave zone return to 80%
2. Removed (angel / shadow parts)
3. Lowered item drop to absolutely minimum.

Why noone hunts there? because Fucking forum trolls and people who never enter cave made you to make mob loot all tt?
You all made all hunters leave this place because made loot so shit that people cannot hunt there any more.

Return loot to mobs and you will not need to find some other way to change something. Because now you made system that if you hunt more - you loose everything .

I was thinking that making 5000 aurli mission with getting onnly tt shit giving 5% tax to land owned and finishing mission by force and losing alot money is worth enought to enter place where people can hunt and get better return or mu than other places.

But i see i was wrong.
Ant these players who is checking this thread and jsut eating popcorns rather depositing 10usd to game will not even put a finger to come and trye to shoot. Because LOOT SUX and you do NOTHING to change it.

Old times ago was - grinding gives proffit
Now days - grinding will broke you. Because in first version of game was - Pay to play , or Grind to play . Now you made : Play with stick in ass but still need to pay.


Suggestion to KIM, stop doing shit like boss spawns, chat "upgrades" that not even see globals now. But Do thing that people care, find exploiters, find where loot is gone for people who is actually depositing to game real money.
and if you dont know how to do that, give your job to people who understand how to do it.

GL, and dont be mad, because all people are mad for cruel truth.
You should try completing the bronze Aurli quest w/o a 2k loot like I did..
& no, skills & grinding doesn't give you loot, hence my 70% return (MU INCLUDED) on the last 25k ped.

But hey, this is a skillbased game (last time I checked I was +lvl 100 hit & dmg)
Skilling slows down so much, it's no longer an incentive to grind...
Making a small steady profit to upgrade gear hasn't been possible for atleast the last 2 years & looting it is completely out of the question..
Starting to wonder why I still play
 

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Still bad idea I think you wanna people camp the bones or you wanna them to hunt :p
Sorry, but i think that Kim do not understand (or do not care) about game. He dont want to make people hunt more for bones, he want to make people run around and look for boss. I can tell Kim what some people will do with his RANDOM spawn... They will take ALL mobs out of rooms, somewhere to corner, so they CAN see boss spawn. And again, if it is xxx mobs killed PLIUS random timer for boss to spawn - people who HUNTING alot wont get boss, they they dont get them now...

So, Kim, if you want it FAIR - make boss spawn only based on kills, so someone who is hunting, will get boss on his head...

p.s. Kim, is it true that tt return in that cave is 10-20% lower then in calypso? :scratch2:
 

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yes you change wss name to exploiters, waiters, zverys , unfair.

let me ask you ? when you was in cave and was hunted mobs in there ? except that mobs you kill "dotty" to make a way to "free" larva pool.
nop I don't remember call anyone xploiter ,,,,
and other think is not people is foult is how game is been developed and I don't blame anyone but this game could be better :yup::yup: is all I try to say but you trying to hard to make thinks look like im calling names and I don't and I don't care what you do like I say bifore I certnly don't complain about the bones bcuz I don't really care but for the people really hunt the need to equal chances real hunters the don't like wait for mob to spawn I can tell you that ......


so that's it for me and im NOT calling names or soc names or wss like you say


and I don't think wss is a xploiter bcuz is the way the game is been prgrame so is up to kim to fix it not yours or someone house so don't come out with stupid thinks to me ese:dunce:


about the larva pool game is free and I can play the way I wanna so dont bring that shit up, should I pay for it them :?:lolup:
 
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They will have randomized spawn locations so you wont be able to see that a boss has spawned just by looking at the radar.
As I told Konvicted when we were killing the mobs in the cave:

Bosses should not spawn based on a timer. You should have to kill/grind these mobs and each spot location has a low % chance to spawn the boss in the same spawn location as a regular. It may be possible to spawn 2 bosses at once but it is rare. This requires less afk camping and more ped turnover.

I did a 10 hour run on Dotty some months back and had 34 globals.. lost 300ped.. not a single boss or bone. Would have been nice to at least think that by grinding them I had a chance to spawn the boss.

The rest of the problem lies with the player base. While doing those grinds, I had WSS, Kestutsis, and a few others hovering in the cave while I clear it to gank the boss if and when it should spawn. A little respect goes along way. All I ended up getting while being in these caves was more people to add to my black list.
 

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You should try completing the bronze Aurli quest w/o a 2k loot like I did..
& no, skills & grinding doesn't give you loot, hence my 70% return (MU INCLUDED) on the last 25k ped.

But hey, this is a skillbased game (last time I checked I was +lvl 100 hit & dmg)
Skilling slows down so much, it's no longer an incentive to grind...
Making a small steady profit to upgrade gear hasn't been possible for atleast the last 2 years & looting it is completely out of the question..
Starting to wonder why I still play
Dude I hear ya. I haven't completed the bronze, but I wouldn't be surprised for once second that I'd do it without a 2k. (if it ever even gets done)
wonder why too. I just spend and spend and spend with no end in sight - no "you have arrived" the "oh this is why I did that" moment won't come. Just the 'oh shit I spent another 150 in two days - i'm an idiot"
 

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about the larva pool game is free and I can play the way I wanna so dont bring that shit up, should I pay for it them :?:lolup:
yes yuou pay for every larva you get, by spending your TIME

dont forget that.
 

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I smell another instance coming to your local gameshop soon :yay:
 

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Dude I hear ya. I haven't completed the bronze, but I wouldn't be surprised for once second that I'd do it without a 2k. (if it ever even gets done)
wonder why too. I just spend and spend and spend with no end in sight - no "you have arrived" the "oh this is why I did that" moment won't come. Just the 'oh shit I spent another 150 in two days - i'm an idiot"
I did 5k Aurli without a single uber. Not even a 1K....hell not even a 500! I got the team one but not a single one solo. I lost 5000+ped doing that AND I hired a socmate/friend to help lower the cost to kill with more dps because with Aurlis you lose a ton of ped to regen... which is probably WHY you are getting 70% returns. By hiring a hunter to sort out the regen, I literally lowered the cost to kill from 6ped to 5.4ped PER mob. Think about that for a second.

High regen mobs are a ped stealer. So are the stupid evade chains. I am compiling data to show these evade chains we get are what are really ruining our TT returns.
 

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Sorry, but i think that Kim do not understand (or do not care) about game. He dont want to make people hunt more for bones, he want to make people run around and look for boss. I can tell Kim what some people will do with his RANDOM spawn... They will take ALL mobs out of rooms, somewhere to corner, so they CAN see boss spawn. And again, if it is xxx mobs killed PLIUS random timer for boss to spawn - people who HUNTING alot wont get boss, they they dont get them now...

So, Kim, if you want it FAIR - make boss spawn only based on kills, so someone who is hunting, will get boss on his head...

p.s. Kim, is it true that tt return in that cave is 10-20% lower then in calypso? :scratch2:
base on skills shit im screw them kim give mine back mine peds I spend on aurli to finish the 5kaurli :laugh::laugh::laugh: joke

no no I think the best way is forget the boss and put the bones on normal mob so all have equal chances :yup: well still spanw boss but the can add other thinks

and yes ramdon spawn wont help bcuz still need to camp :wise::wise:

or like I say on previuos message the should drop parts to spawn the boss so the more you hunt the more parts you get to spawn the boss

kinda like making a DNA combine varios parts to make a boss well is the way I see better ;)
 

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Turn the caves into instances without the 1 hour timer!
That way you can make sure the boss is spawned due to your number of kills
 

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P.S. To all who say that Tamosiunas, NoX, Kestukas, r0ound, Joda or Hulk only waiting for boss to spawn - look on tracker for Bram, Warren, Unruly, Bell, Dotty and Brood of all globals. Dont foget that most of times we are in teams Zverys, VVV, Z, WSS and so. Add all that globals together and you will see that we where hunting more then anyone else. Now go and find Akon :laugh:
 

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Dude I hear ya. I haven't completed the bronze, but I wouldn't be surprised for once second that I'd do it without a 2k. (if it ever even gets done)
wonder why too. I just spend and spend and spend with no end in sight - no "you have arrived" the "oh this is why I did that" moment won't come. Just the 'oh shit I spent another 150 in two days - i'm an idiot"
Just checked for you.. toploot on aurli bronze quest was 886 ped & no, it wasn't an ESI
I also remember that the same ava got 2*2k+ in a week in that dome, while I was camping there & the 1st to complete the quest..
I did get a 2345 ped small aurli but I kinda think that's normal after 967 aurli globals, nothing else there of +1k

Turn the caves into instances without the 1 hour timer!
That way you can make sure the boss is spawned due to your number of kills
Or make us pay 5k ped to spawn it, that would be another success story again :laugh:

PS : gotta keep the humor in it or EU would be waaaay too depressing
 

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base on skills shit im screw them kim give mine back mine peds I spend on aurli to finish the 5kaurli :laugh::laugh::laugh: joke

no no I think the best way is forget the boss and put the bones on normal mob so all have equal chances :yup: well still spanw boss but the can add other thinks

and yes ramdon spawn wont help bcuz still need to camp :wise::wise:

or like I say on previuos message the should drop parts to spawn the boss so the more you hunt the more parts you get to spawn the boss

kinda like making a DNA combine varios parts to make a boss well is the way I see better ;)
this game made taht 90% lose theyr 10% and 10% get theyr 110% tt.
people are playing to get to that 10% instead of 90% lsoers.
How do you think if Mindark will make all people equal and all will lose, who will play in fair system where all is equal and all is losing ?

will you go to play casino if you know you will allways get back less than you spent ?
 

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Turn the caves into instances without the 1 hour timer!
That way you can make sure the boss is spawned due to your number of kills
make all game like wow that people hunt in instances and can only meet in towns. so different enemies cannot see each other for months and dont compeete with each other
 

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I keep coming to this thread because of the tittle "the hive"
I keep reading "The Chive" and i come her to see some sexy pics!

Btw for those who think like me:
www.TheChive.com
 

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Working on this right now, what would you think of a chat message when a boss is spawned, and should it be displayed for everyone in the whole dungeon or just for those in that particular room?

Kim
How about you stop insisting on making opportunities like this only available in badly-designed PvP zones, so that they aren't dominated by people that are either 12 years old, or act like it? The vast majority of skilled and experienced players who are capable of hunting the Broods don't bother doing so because they don't want to put up with the pathetic and immature behaviour of those who are usually in there mob-training, kill-stealing, insulting people and generally being total arseholes.

This thread is a great example of their attitude.

If you want to reward idiots who actively try to stop others from spending PEDs and engaging with EU, you're going the right way about it. It doesn't (or shouldn't) take a genius to realise that you'd be better off trying to promote co-operation and participation rather than conflict and disengagement, but you keep on adding these areas that disenfranchise the mature and (previously) committed players who ought to be your best customers.

Please just stop it.
 

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They will have randomized spawn locations so you wont be able to see that a boss has spawned just by looking at the radar.
What about lowering chance of bone drop in loot on bosses and slightly increasing that chance on normal maturities?
This should do the trick and discourage those who stand and wait for boss spawn. Also those who mobtrain and kill steal.
 

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Just checked for you.. toploot on aurli bronze quest was 886 ped & no, it wasn't an ESI
I also remember that the same ava got 2*2k+ in a week in that dome, while I was camping there & the 1st to complete the quest..
I did get a 2345 ped small aurli but I kinda think that's normal after 967 aurli globals, nothing else there of +1k
out of curiousity i also checked,i finished iron aurli + iron kreltin + bronze aurli + bronze kreltin without 1 loot over 1k
 

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What would you think of having all bosses, or maybe even all monsters inside the hive set to shared loot?
 

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What would you think of having all bosses, or maybe even all monsters inside the hive set to shared loot?
fuck that i hate shared loot :(
 

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A random shrub? There are plants down there now? :D
 
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