Question: Tiering unbalanced for pvp

[burnsey]

For Weapons you can get 10% increase in damage up to a 200% increase if all tiered out 1-10. With armor and faps you can only get a 5% increase with all tiers gaining 150% increase in protection.

Does this create an inbalance in the pvp where the fight will be determined by who shoots first?

 

[Tussi]

Well, better as old unbalance which was determined by who holds the modfap and who didn't.

Tussi

 

[AtamiKiangola]

I've thought of this ... specifically towards LG
Uber socs & players will pay lots for uber tiered items.

Without tiers you'll be toast
(note to myself : I'm toast anyhow )

 

[aridash]

sooo... what you're saying is all uber faps and armours for PVP are nerfed by proxy. same old. MA doesnt nerf anything direct to stick to their promise, but twist the things around the edge for the same effect.

 

[Profit]

Yeah I noticed this, I'd been avoiding PVP where possible after talking to someone at Nea's who is relatively mid-level, toating a t7 LR59 for PK saying he hits over 400+ on crit!
I can only imagine LR63/66 t10!

No chance of surviving a shot from that. No... Chance... in hell.

 

[XxSmityxX]

Yeah I noticed this, I'd been avoiding PVP where possible after talking to someone at Nea's who is relatively mid-level, toating a t7 LR59 for PK saying he hits over 400+ on crit!
I can only imagine LR63/66 t10!

No chance of surviving a shot from that. No... Chance... in hell.

Not necissarily, if another uber had a full set of Eon SGA edition at tier 10 with 6a plates and all armor protection enhancers they could survive a shot from those, the weapon would be proportioned to the armor meaning a single shot from an LR63 with no amp and no tiers hitting a full set of eon SGA with no plates and no tiers would be the same damage proportioned to a tier 10 LR 63 with an uber amp hitting a full set of eon SGA with 6a and tier 10 with enhancers, so really all that does is up the numbers, much like what MA did with the value of ammo

 

[truantduck]

My thoughts...

Weapons: Most of the time you don't do full damage. At T1 you get 10% more damage on the top end, but only 5% on the low end. On average, the % damage increase from a single skill-maxed shot is roughly 7.5% .

Armor: Because of multiple damage types, increased armor protection might be better than expected, but still disappointing.

T1 Weapon vs T1 Armor... FIGHT!!

LR65 vs Hermes: LR65 will do about 9 pts of damage more on average at t1, where a piece of tier1 hermes will only protect an additional 2.25 damage.

Tango vs Eon: Tango will do 22.5 more at t1. Eon will protect no more than 3.75.

APPG-1 vs Pixie: really?


Conclusion... We need to be able to tier our plates?

 

[truantduck]

The more I think about it, the more balanced it seems.

Weapons do 10% more damage. (7.5% more on average.)

You take 5% less damage always, and can heal back 5% more.

More deathblows this way, but ultimately seems somewhat balanced in my mind.

 

[mjukis]

LR66+BBC 139+62 burn (all pen absorbed) vs. Infi+3E 49+24 burn
27.5-128 normal damage
228.5-329 crit

T10 LR66+BBC 278+62 burn vs. T10 Infi+3E 73.5+24 burn
72.5-242.5 normal damage
412.5-582.5 crit

Looks pretty lopsided to me. Even if someone figures it's worth a few million peds to get a T10 mod fap it'd still be lopsided.

 

[Menace]

LR66+BBC 139+62 burn (all pen absorbed) vs. Infi+3E 49+24 burn
27.5-128 normal damage
228.5-329 crit

T10 LR66+BBC 278+62 burn vs. T10 Infi+3E 73.5+24 burn
72.5-242.5 normal damage
412.5-582.5 crit

Looks pretty lopsided to me. Even if someone figures it's worth a few million peds to get a T10 mod fap it'd still be lopsided.

Almost as lopsided as the days when the wealthy were at the top of the food chain and the blue collar folk who filled the loot pool for the wealthy were stepped on by the "Ubers".
I personally love the new tier system. No need for armor anymore cuz it don't matter. Less decay....
And.... I can hit with an LR59 as hard as the wastelanders hit with LR68....... Sucks to be "uber" and have all that money invested in Ubah gear eh? I zip in unarmored with a tiered LR59 and am hittin for up to 100 (ish) against full PK armor..... that means even the highest of Ubers COULD go down if I hit them 3 times no crits...... LOVE IT! To hell with the market manipulation you all pulled back in the days of old... your over inflated gear ain't worth dick all now!

 

[Kimmi]

Almost as lopsided as the days when the wealthy were at the top of the food chain and the blue collar folk who filled the loot pool for the wealthy were stepped on by the "Ubers".
I personally love the new tier system. No need for armor anymore cuz it don't matter. Less decay....
And.... I can hit with an LR59 as hard as the wastelanders hit with LR68....... Sucks to be "uber" and have all that money invested in Ubah gear eh? I zip in unarmored with a tiered LR59 and am hittin for up to 100 (ish) against full PK armor..... that means even the highest of Ubers COULD go down if I hit them 3 times no crits...... LOVE IT! To hell with the market manipulation you all pulled back in the days of old... your over inflated gear ain't worth dick all now!

Down with the uber!!!!

 

[Futurama]

Almost as lopsided as the days when the wealthy were at the top of the food chain and the blue collar folk who filled the loot pool for the wealthy were stepped on by the "Ubers".
I personally love the new tier system. No need for armor anymore cuz it don't matter. Less decay....
And.... I can hit with an LR59 as hard as the wastelanders hit with LR68....... Sucks to be "uber" and have all that money invested in Ubah gear eh? I zip in unarmored with a tiered LR59 and am hittin for up to 100 (ish) against full PK armor..... that means even the highest of Ubers COULD go down if I hit them 3 times no crits...... LOVE IT! To hell with the market manipulation you all pulled back in the days of old... your over inflated gear ain't worth dick all now!

ROFL, GL with hitting someone 3 times in a row naked, you`ll most likely be dead before you reach 60m...

Besides plated inf/eon isn`t going to take 100ish hits anyway (as a max perhaps) unless its very high tier, although those high tier will be rare and expensive.

 

[Tina Walther]

i dont know why so much people complain about the "ubers" that were in god mode with their mod fap

1. its not like there are hundreds of mod fap (i guess there are much more high tier "pk" weapons than mod and imp faps)
2. back in old vu where no lr6x and tier was it was possible to kill star for example even tho he has a mod fap
3. why are most ppl that complain about pvp kinda unknown ppl (im into pk for some time now and was used to hang around in pvp4 every day for serval hours)
and 4. a fap cant kill


looking at "XxSmityxX"´s post says all, you have no real idea of pvp in entropia and want to discuss about it? some stats from entropedia isnt enough