John B Knight
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Hello Anthony, i have to wonder why you ask me to provide info again, you have several pms of me with all the info you just have to update your review with facts. I know posting pms is forbidden according to forum rules, but i guess this is related to someone posting a received message in public and not to forbid someone to publish his own opinion - so based on this assumption i will post a part of info of my own pm to you here again as it contains a good deal of information - funny though is that you quoted my pm to you and published it taking it partly out of context and drawing the conclusion that only TP's are safe without asking my permission. Your review should clearly list the options advantages and disadvatages of station and atmospheric docking without mixing it with personal opinion - when doing a review you have to go by fact and and pretty valid fact is that Normandie has a 100% safety statistic for passenger transports with atmospheric docking - so instead of stating theoretical possibilties for all of which i gave you counter measures that are applied by us you should go by facts and that would include to compare how many passenger got lootet with which service provider since their start of operation - that would give you a real indication about safety of a certain service.
Here some of the info i sent to you:
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Crewsubscription on the Normandie is a discounted subscription, its not that you have to pay to work its that you pay half of what a vip does for making sure the ship stay intact and you get even safer to your target.
You only counted the scheduled passenger flights, however on the non transport days the Normandie also performs warps to special hunting locations at least 2 on thursdays and saturdays sometimes moreding how many different mob locations we visit. The Normandie also sents out summons when performing vip flights, so everyone who is vip or crewsubscriber can join on those vip flights for free to get to another planet outside of regular schedule. The actual number of warpflights including those unregular vip flights is well above 100.
The reason why Normandie charges more for vip flights then other service providers is because we offer the highest security avaiable if called and because we dont want to be called to much for vip flights as we already have a pretty dense schedule - so interupting the program for subscribers to transport someone else is of course charged accordingly - which is also the reason why our vip prices are higher during our main scheduled times then if getting called outside of that timeframe. The reason why we charge 10ped for each additional passenger on vip flights is also easy, this is to avoid the raise of flight agencies who gather passengers and then just book the vip flights on their behalf - sadly some other subscription service providers have just copied a part of our concept and didnt think further when it came to vip flights.
Yes the Normandie has 86k+ structural integrity and we are not just beyond the top 10 we are the clear number one with that SI level, number two is Dreadnought with around 66k, 3 is Bjorn with around 60k,4 is Krusenstern with around 56k and everyone else is ~40k and beyond. Bismark of efa doesnt even have any mentionable si according to my info.
About your statement that we dont do atmospheric docking on all planets, we actually do it on all every week, there is just a few exceptions where we dont do it the second time when we already have done it the same day as the second flight mainly is just to regather those subscribers who wished for a longer planetary stay before heading back - people have choice on our service on when to return.
You also missed out on our longterm subscriptions, we offer 6month subscriptions and annual subscriptions - the info for those can be found on pcf in a separte thread linked from the warpflights thread and on ark forum straight in the normandie thread - however we dont have it straight on the webpage yet as to give passengers an impression of our service first before having them decide if they want to subscribe longterm. 6month sub is 500 crew and 1000 vip and annual is 900 crew and 1800 vip which is a 25% discount compared to monthly subscriptions.
In regards to repairs you should also mention that Normandie and Kronan both supply tools and wires at boardprice which makes skilling on those ships much more eco then if choosing one of the others where people need to buy from auction. On Normandie the boardprice for tools is 10ped and wires 200% - considering auction prices a hardcore repair skiller can safe 200-400ped per month skilling on the Normandie then if skilling on another ship where he buys stuff from auction.
Normandie also provides shuttle support if people need it, i always have several thruster equipped shuttle on me to help people to get down planetside at atmosphere if they have no shuttle or otherwise free seat with someone else. This of course needs to be requested when we asked in forcechat who wants to go down.
About communication channels, we have a radio right, we have teamspeak correct, we have skype for individual cases were needed, but yes we dont run a skype chatroom for this - we however have forcechat ingame which should be the main communication channel since we offer logged in transpot - we also always make sure that our arrival times are safe for people to log in without worries - if there were delays or any danger to the ship the ship would be docked in bluezone at the time people plan to log back in.
What i missed in your review is the average time a ship needs to perform a scheduled flight, many people dont want to spend much time traveling and the Normandie runs a pretty dense and accurate schedule while other providers often have delays - this should be a major point in a review to look at - exspecially since some flights might get delays due to weak ships getting shot down and having to head out again. What i also missed is how other services handle their schedules when the spacecrafts owner is on vacation - i know some of your reviewed services just dont run their schedule then or skip summons - however the Normandie service has back since around september when mindark fixed docking in space provided summons every single night and i have been operating the ship or replacement ships (yes i have been organising replacement ships for my subscribers at no further cost they even got the number of inconvenient days added to their subs for free - back when space bugs were lots out there and mindark made Normandie unaccessible for 2 days) every single night since i aquired the Normandie in the night 30th/1st june/july 11. This is reliabilty and quality of service which i deem important in a review. Over the last years time i have gifted free hoverpods to my subscribers and lots of additional free travel days about around 28 days of free travel were the subscriptions extended due to various occassions either certain celebrations, event supports or compensation days when mindark bugs caused us to have some minutes delay - so you see you cant just break it down to one number.
When comaring total possible costs please also conider wheter its station or atmosphere this can add up alot over time, also if the service usually has enough passengers that seats can be shared (this makes up for another ped saved on average per flight).
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Going further i will give you a figure about why you need to consider atmospheric docking when comparing services: About 95%+ of our passengers are utilizing atmospheric docking !
So if you dont want to count this process for 100% take the 95% or travel with us and count yourself how many head down and how many wait for tp - while you are at it you can also meassure how many of the heading down passengers share regularly their shuttles to save further peds - you will notice that this is the case in over 50% and those who do not mostly are because they like to fly by themself.
And to end my info post here another figure for you that you can check back on if you want:
The Normandies average time to arrive secure at the target planets atmosphere after her scheduled departure time is below 5minutes - we fly our scheduled flights regardless of the number of passengers - always.
Here some of the info i sent to you:
*********************
Crewsubscription on the Normandie is a discounted subscription, its not that you have to pay to work its that you pay half of what a vip does for making sure the ship stay intact and you get even safer to your target.
You only counted the scheduled passenger flights, however on the non transport days the Normandie also performs warps to special hunting locations at least 2 on thursdays and saturdays sometimes moreding how many different mob locations we visit. The Normandie also sents out summons when performing vip flights, so everyone who is vip or crewsubscriber can join on those vip flights for free to get to another planet outside of regular schedule. The actual number of warpflights including those unregular vip flights is well above 100.
The reason why Normandie charges more for vip flights then other service providers is because we offer the highest security avaiable if called and because we dont want to be called to much for vip flights as we already have a pretty dense schedule - so interupting the program for subscribers to transport someone else is of course charged accordingly - which is also the reason why our vip prices are higher during our main scheduled times then if getting called outside of that timeframe. The reason why we charge 10ped for each additional passenger on vip flights is also easy, this is to avoid the raise of flight agencies who gather passengers and then just book the vip flights on their behalf - sadly some other subscription service providers have just copied a part of our concept and didnt think further when it came to vip flights.
Yes the Normandie has 86k+ structural integrity and we are not just beyond the top 10 we are the clear number one with that SI level, number two is Dreadnought with around 66k, 3 is Bjorn with around 60k,4 is Krusenstern with around 56k and everyone else is ~40k and beyond. Bismark of efa doesnt even have any mentionable si according to my info.
About your statement that we dont do atmospheric docking on all planets, we actually do it on all every week, there is just a few exceptions where we dont do it the second time when we already have done it the same day as the second flight mainly is just to regather those subscribers who wished for a longer planetary stay before heading back - people have choice on our service on when to return.
You also missed out on our longterm subscriptions, we offer 6month subscriptions and annual subscriptions - the info for those can be found on pcf in a separte thread linked from the warpflights thread and on ark forum straight in the normandie thread - however we dont have it straight on the webpage yet as to give passengers an impression of our service first before having them decide if they want to subscribe longterm. 6month sub is 500 crew and 1000 vip and annual is 900 crew and 1800 vip which is a 25% discount compared to monthly subscriptions.
In regards to repairs you should also mention that Normandie and Kronan both supply tools and wires at boardprice which makes skilling on those ships much more eco then if choosing one of the others where people need to buy from auction. On Normandie the boardprice for tools is 10ped and wires 200% - considering auction prices a hardcore repair skiller can safe 200-400ped per month skilling on the Normandie then if skilling on another ship where he buys stuff from auction.
Normandie also provides shuttle support if people need it, i always have several thruster equipped shuttle on me to help people to get down planetside at atmosphere if they have no shuttle or otherwise free seat with someone else. This of course needs to be requested when we asked in forcechat who wants to go down.
About communication channels, we have a radio right, we have teamspeak correct, we have skype for individual cases were needed, but yes we dont run a skype chatroom for this - we however have forcechat ingame which should be the main communication channel since we offer logged in transpot - we also always make sure that our arrival times are safe for people to log in without worries - if there were delays or any danger to the ship the ship would be docked in bluezone at the time people plan to log back in.
What i missed in your review is the average time a ship needs to perform a scheduled flight, many people dont want to spend much time traveling and the Normandie runs a pretty dense and accurate schedule while other providers often have delays - this should be a major point in a review to look at - exspecially since some flights might get delays due to weak ships getting shot down and having to head out again. What i also missed is how other services handle their schedules when the spacecrafts owner is on vacation - i know some of your reviewed services just dont run their schedule then or skip summons - however the Normandie service has back since around september when mindark fixed docking in space provided summons every single night and i have been operating the ship or replacement ships (yes i have been organising replacement ships for my subscribers at no further cost they even got the number of inconvenient days added to their subs for free - back when space bugs were lots out there and mindark made Normandie unaccessible for 2 days) every single night since i aquired the Normandie in the night 30th/1st june/july 11. This is reliabilty and quality of service which i deem important in a review. Over the last years time i have gifted free hoverpods to my subscribers and lots of additional free travel days about around 28 days of free travel were the subscriptions extended due to various occassions either certain celebrations, event supports or compensation days when mindark bugs caused us to have some minutes delay - so you see you cant just break it down to one number.
When comaring total possible costs please also conider wheter its station or atmosphere this can add up alot over time, also if the service usually has enough passengers that seats can be shared (this makes up for another ped saved on average per flight).
*************************
Going further i will give you a figure about why you need to consider atmospheric docking when comparing services: About 95%+ of our passengers are utilizing atmospheric docking !
So if you dont want to count this process for 100% take the 95% or travel with us and count yourself how many head down and how many wait for tp - while you are at it you can also meassure how many of the heading down passengers share regularly their shuttles to save further peds - you will notice that this is the case in over 50% and those who do not mostly are because they like to fly by themself.
And to end my info post here another figure for you that you can check back on if you want:
The Normandies average time to arrive secure at the target planets atmosphere after her scheduled departure time is below 5minutes - we fly our scheduled flights regardless of the number of passengers - always.
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