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There is tremendous risk in developing technology. There is no guarantee that AmeVRIca orthe Teleporter system will be successfully completed or that the teleport Tokens will ever have any utility.

The Teleport System and AmeVRica is in no way connected with Mindark PE AB or Entropia Universe. If any Gamified development of the Great Teleporter takes place on the ROCKtropia Virtual World it will be purely for gamification purposes only. The monetized teleportation System will not be implemented into ROCKtropia Virtual World. The Great Teleporter that will be built in the ROCKtropia Virtual World. Will not provide a provide a Portal to worlds outside of the Entropia Universe platform.

This Crowdfunding is solely undertaken by NEVERDIE Studios and any gamification of VR development inside ROCKtropia Virtual World is for gameplay purposes only and is not supported by Entropia Universe or Mindark.
 
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So, he says he wants to use EU / Rocktropia as a base to develop "Great Teleporter" for something else?

Am guessing a PP can create models, model animations for the various mobs / equipment / terrain / structure / etc in a planet.

Am guessing the "game editor" allows them to add these models, arrange them around as well as attach predefined functions (TP, mob spawning maybe, etc).

I recall some earlier discussion stating that a PP cannot set all the stats for gear they create.

So, unless ND really has access to the underlying source code for the engine, am guessing he cannot add new functions (Great Teleporter, for example). He can mix and match with whatever functions MA has provided to the PPs, but not create something totally new from scratch.

He is stating his goal is to raise 50 Million USD. Interesting, considering that the whole of Caly planet itself was previously sold for only 6 Millions USD. Even with inflation, I doubt that 6 Millions is even half of the current target of 50 Million.

Furthermore, I don't know what are the terms of the MA / PP agreement, and if MA will let a PP use a planet to promote something which may be a potential competitor.........

Lastly, if your new system is international in scope, the name is wrong, so is the logo. It's too America(USA) centric.

Well, good luck to ND ......
 

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Well, I've read it over and I'm not entirely sure what he's planning.... It reads like he's making his own EU which has its own hunting, mining & crafting with games inside the game. Wants 50m and gives next to no info
Future of RT becomes uncertain now, if the game works then RT may move there or ND stop supporting it,plus if RT is used to promote a rival then MA might intervene.

And I echo the unknown, American centric name with flag will not help. Especially when the American brand dropped with trump taking over
 

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Seems to me some kiddo got too much money for his own sake, don't know what to do with it and just tries stupid things out o_O
 

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I have bought / sold bit coins before and am not familiar with Ether.

With that said, I just took a closer look at the http://www.amevrica.com/ site.

4. Send Ether (min $10.00 USD) amount from Meta Mask Wallet to Teleport Address 0x2f222727a99fE15f942a492aF3b54E27DEB45542

That link on that address goes to https://etherscan.io/token/0xc596bd09d652827b0106292d3e378d5938df4b12

So am wondering if it's normal for a wallet address to be different from the link at the etherscan.io site.

Or is there a mistake somewhere in that link?

Manually changing https://etherscan.io/token/0xc596bd09d652827b0106292d3e378d5938df4b12 to

https://etherscan.io/token/0x2f222727a99fE15f942a492aF3b54E27DEB45542 states an error

"Sorry ! The address '0x2f222727a99fE15f942a492aF3b54E27DEB45542' you searched for is not a valid Token Contract Address.".

Checking out the link at https://etherscan.io/token/0xc596bd09d652827b0106292d3e378d5938df4b12 and looking under comments, it shows that 3 out of the 4 comments are asking for their ether back / stating that it was sent accidentally / send without their permission.

Looks weird, when taking it all in.
:scratch2:

PS : I disabled the option to automatically parse links in text, but it still creates links in the post :(
 

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I was wondering if Neverdie is genius or crazy. Now I know.
 

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I am very familiar with ETH , because a picture speaks more than a thousand words :

ethh.jpg

Basically Neverdie is high on opium and wants you to make NEVERDIE great again.
With his overpriced ICO (initial coin offering).

The same guy who used to makes jokes about cryptos few years ago.

But ofc, there are icos every week getting funded over 10 million $ in ETH /BTC whatever.

So why not right.

Let's make NEVERDIE great again. :laugh:

ps: Most likely we'll see ETH do a cycle to over 200$ high and more before end of year, so carefull before sending any eth ;)

ps2: Perhaps you should look into Gamecredits / Mobilego / Firstblood too ND :cool: .
Because tokenisation of gaming platform is the future for sure.
 

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So if the original target of $50,000,000 isn't reached by 20th June does everyone get their money back?
 

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So if the original target of $50,000,000 isn't reached by 20th June does everyone get their money back?
read it again ;)

i read the price for a token will increase from 0.05 to 0.10$ on 1st of july, and keep that price until all tokens are sold. after that, the price increases to 1$ and more tokens are added to fund future development and the payouts.
 

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Hmm so he is still going down this teleporter route that MA came out saying they wouldn't implement.
Except now he is doing his own thing with it outside of EU and creating his own virtual world which will then be in competition with EU, since you can loot/mine/craft for these tokens:

"Of the 10 billion teleport tokens created, 1.5 Billion tokens will be sold to fund initial development, 5 Billion tokens will be allocated only to be looted, mined and crafted by users throughout AmeVRican Games and DApps and the Remaining 3.5 Billion TPT tokens will be reserved."

Best of all yet, everyone else is to fund this for him:
"$50 Million raised through the sale of the teleport tokens"
"an additional 1 billion teleport tokens will be offered at $1 per token to finance the expansion of the teleportation network"

At what point should you give up on an idea? :scratch2:
 
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Hmm so he is still going down this teleporter route that MA came out saying they wouldn't implement.
Except now he is doing his own thing with it outside of EU and creating his own virtual world which will then be in competition with EU, since you can loot/mine/craft for these tokens:

"Of the 10 billion teleport tokens created, 1.5 Billion tokens will be sold to fund initial development, 5 Billion tokens will be allocated only to be looted, mined and crafted by users throughout AmeVRican Games and DApps and the Remaining 3.5 Billion TPT tokens will be reserved."

Best of all yet, everyone else is to fund this for him:
"$50 Million raised through the sale of the teleport tokens"
"an additional 1 billion teleport tokens will be offered at $1 per token to finance the expansion of the teleportation network"

At what point should you give up on an idea? :scratch2:
he is too much of a moron to ever give up. and this time he will fall very deep. he got lucky once with that cnd purchase but everything else he has done was total bullshit.
3 years from now RT is on sale because ND is bankrupt. or he finds enough people stupid enough to believe the bullshit he is dishing them to somehow survive.
 

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So 12 days ago, I posted about how Neverdie is high on opium and want you to make him rich again with ethereum.

That was when ETH was at 92$.

Today it's 115$

That's just 25% difference in 12 day potential.

Go ND go. :confused: ;)

Here is today :
eth paradigm.jpg

ps: sorry it's more like 117$ by the time I posted oops.
 
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So now Eth trade at all time high of 196$.

15 days ago I mentionned how eth was at 92$ and that ND wants you to make him rich again.
I also said that we will see ETH at 200$ pretty soon.

I was not expecting it that soon tho.

Go Nd go :p


ps: That is a 100% increase potential last 15 days basically.
 

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If there would be screenshots or gameplay video of a working alpha, that would be more impressing.

But right now this feels more like a scam.

I take it the people who start with crowdfunding this will have more tokens of higher value overtime?
 

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he is too much of a moron to ever give up. and this time he will fall very deep. he got lucky once with that cnd purchase but everything else he has done was total bullshit.
3 years from now RT is on sale because ND is bankrupt. or he finds enough people stupid enough to believe the bullshit he is dishing them to somehow survive.
Its like you read my mind... :laugh:
 

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If there would be screenshots or gameplay video of a working alpha, that would be more impressing.

But right now this feels more like a scam.

I take it the people who start with crowdfunding this will have more tokens of higher value overtime?
thats the major issue, if you go on Kickstarter, you are at least given screenshots, pre-renders, or at least sketches outlining the idea. Here we're given a small paragraph... basically you have to decide if hes worth trusting and invest into the ND brand
 

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thats the major issue, if you go on Kickstarter, you are at least given screenshots, pre-renders, or at least sketches outlining the idea. Here we're given a small paragraph... basically you have to decide if hes worth trusting and invest into the ND brand
He should fix Rocktropia first, which I honestly think he is tired about it. Which is also in conflict with Mind Ark.
 

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Some of the posters above are crossing the line to outright slander. If you hate his guts for the heck of it, just stay away.

If I was the developer, I also wouldn't know what to do with feedback like "fix Rocktropia, schtonk." If you don't like something specific, or have a better idea, say so on their forum. They are asking for it regularly and will listen. You don't get a canned answer to never hear from it again like with MA. There is a lot of new content on RT developed very recently, what is your damn problem?

I agree the foray into politics didn't do him much good. It lets people make all kinds of promises that are impossible to keep. Don't we know that in advance, though? It doesn't work in RL, why should it in VR since human nature doesn't change. Anyways, there is an experiment with a new mode for player participation now and I'm curious to see how it plays out. Some of the other projects, like with paid teleporters, hardly anyone seems to understand yet. I will hold back judgement until I do. My money also stays put until then. If greed gets the better of you and results don't come as expected --scratch that, dreamed-- you have nobody but yourself to blame.
 

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Some of the posters above are crossing the line to outright slander. If you hate his guts for the heck of it, just stay away.

If I was the developer, I also wouldn't know what to do with feedback like "fix Rocktropia, schtonk." If you don't like something specific, or have a better idea, say so on their forum. They are asking for it regularly and will listen. You don't get a canned answer to never hear from it again like with MA. There is a lot of new content on RT developed very recently, what is your damn problem?
Then why is Rocktropia stil missing half of it's area map? They say it's to cut server costs. But instead he added new area maps. Now Rocktropia population is split over 4 to 5 maps. It would have been better if it was just Rocktropia and hell and maybe Hunt the thing map with all it's new added content.

I guess you can do teleporter fees between those area maps but what's the point if you have a small population of 50-100 players spread out over 5 maps.

Rocktropia should have thousands of players enjoying Rocktropia's DragonMetalHookerHellCasino style.
 

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Then why is Rocktropia stil missing half of it's area map? They say it's to cut server costs. But instead he added new area maps. Now Rocktropia population is split over 4 to 5 maps. It would have been better if it was just Rocktropia and hell and maybe Hunt the thing map with all it's new added content.

I guess you can do teleporter fees between those area maps but what's the point if you have a small population of 50-100 players spread out over 5 maps.

Rocktropia should have thousands of players enjoying Rocktropia's DragonMetalHookerHellCasino style.
Everything which is there now existed already when RT mainland was cut in half. SI was a part of NI then, their developments were always intertwined. There exists a small "teleporter fee" of one banana now to travel in each direction. I don't know what made them choose to ditch one part over another or what extent of promotion is done to increase the planet's original player base. I am certain though that those closer to the project than you and me know all of the above better than you and me. Again, if you have any bright ideas, by all means deliver them where it matters. I can rant about this or that, too, but hateful fits without rhyme or reason ain't helping anybody.
 

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Everything which is there now existed already when RT mainland was cut in half. SI was a part of NI then, their developments were always intertwined. There exists a small "teleporter fee" of one banana now to travel in each direction. I don't know what made them choose to ditch one part over another or what extent of promotion is done to increase the planet's original player base. I am certain though that those closer to the project than you and me know all of the above better than you and me. Again, if you have any bright ideas, by all means deliver them where it matters. I can rant about this or that, too, but hateful fits without rhyme or reason ain't helping anybody.
Yeah, those closer to the project, didn't most of them leave? As far as I know, Neverdie and 1 more person (programmer doc) seem to be the only two working on Rocktropia.

Rocktropia needs players, both new and old. So why are most of them not staying?
If I recall correctly, RT was recovering quite well when vixen thongs were hitting 1000% MU.
So that must be mining was booming as well. Why did it drop? Did Hell become not worthwhile anymore?

The existing missions for wolves, vixens and other mobs that are hunted a lot should be addressed and be like the competitors planets direction. I mean, who wants to cycle 5000 ped to get 20 nova fragments as a reward?
There are like 65000 wolves on Rocktropia and only a few hunt them. If I recall correctly they drop materials for weapons? What happened to that branch?

Then there are some racing tracks all over Rocktropia and other maps, what happened to that? We have vehicles, we have people who can drive(a little), why not focus on that?

And what happened to King Kong? I see people hunt him sometimes when Neverdie spawns them. But nobody seems to do the waves event anymore? Did we become lazy? Are we thinking, let's wait for Neverdie to spawn them? Was spawning King Kong to compete against Arkadia & Calypso spawn events a even good idea?

The list goes on, which I think in it's main point is the missions for low-med-high level player range.
They must be like iron missions with 1 to 7 stages with rewards that tease people: "hey, do me, I'm a good reward!".

Also Rocktropia's auction is a mirror showing how active each profession of trades are, which in turn means how active the planet is. Why would you put 20 limited guns on Rocktropia auction if nobody buys them? Oh right, there are too less hunters, so let's fix that. Bring back the hunters to Rocktropia. It will bring back the weapon crafters making guns, making hunters hunt wolves again and so on.
 

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. I don't know what made them choose to ditch one part over another
Most of what was removed was simply 'empty space' between different landmarks... I remember fondly the 'farms' on Rocktropia that actually had fences around them to keep various mobs inside... It was funny looking stuff that reminded me of mid-America. Also remember when the beer garden was pvp and it was annoying since new players could sit there a few hours til a pvp person popped up and killed em... The castles were 'more grand' back then but honestly the map is a lot more user friendly now since you don't have to spend a lot of time running, tping or using a vehicle to get from point a to point b. The Evil Cathedral used to be way over on the West side of the map, and I think the forested areas over there is where a lot of the mobs related to missions for that type of thing were... With it in zombhattan now it feels 'crowded' but it works... guess it goes with the theme a bit too since vampires, werewolves, and zombies kinda go together a bit (even if there will never be any "Universal Monsters")

Personally, one thing I don't like about RT is that since the map is so small they try to squeeze everything in to a smaller space... so you get a bunch of mob types and maturities all compressed in to one small space. Makes missions to 'hunt 100 of this' 'hunt 1000 of that' particular mob type a pain in the butt!

Go to Calypso and you want to hunt a particular mob type you just go to the LA or spawn point for that particular mob and go crazy with select next, auto tool, loot... select next... etc. You can't do that so much on RT or similar mixed mob places.
 
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Most of what was removed was ...
:)
You must spread some...

Sadly, my first ever space trip to RT was 2 days after it happened :( I asked about chances of its return in a recent chat when ND was present, and he said if population would increase significantly, it might be doable. Talk about crammed, Cyrene is even worse at 1/3 of its former size, and everyone is on tenterhooks what will pop out of the cocoon eventually.

Was mainly hoping some RT regular could set the previous poster(s) straight about already taken remedies to some of the complaints which they seem to be unaware of. I visit whenever I can, but there is so much new stuff lately that I couldn't yet catch up with every detail. All I know is, they're working on it and are working hard. If it pays in the end, we'll see. Most of the naysaying is just ignorant though, or some seem to be simply fixated on hating the persona. Same as with Trump.
 

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Most of the naysaying is just ignorant though, or some seem to be simply fixated on hating the persona. Same as with Trump.
You don't think the misogyny, xenophobia and corruption have anything to do with it, then?
 

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You don't think the misogyny, xenophobia and corruption have anything to do with it, then?
Those British gentlemen, always so restrained... Hitler was the word you were looking for!

 

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Yeah, those closer to the project, didn't most of them leave? As far as I know, Neverdie and 1 more person (programmer doc) seem to be the only two working on Rocktropia.

Rocktropia needs players, both new and old. So why are most of them not staying?
If I recall correctly, RT was recovering quite well when vixen thongs were hitting 1000% MU.
So that must be mining was booming as well. Why did it drop? Did Hell become not worthwhile anymore?
The answer to your question regarding Hell is yes. MA messed with hell when they tampered with resource distributions shortly after EP4 was introduced. The adjusted rates/caps were in response to universal crashes on every single resource to nearly 105%.. with how mining tt return works, this was not sustainable for players or mindark, so adjustments were made to artificially boost markup of resources like gazz, ignisium, dianthus, etc....

Problem is that even those are failing now..

But when markups crashed across the board.. Hell got shafted worse than any other spot in game in terms of resource distribution alterations. Hell now has lower average markup than Foma... and that should not be the case.
 

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You don't think the misogyny, xenophobia and corruption have anything to do with it, then?
Jesus Christ. I keep forgetting propaganda works.
 

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Well done

In an article I found this
"AmeVRica will be a “cross-platform world spanning such platforms as VR, AR, and mobile” in order to make the world widely accessible, according to Jacobs. This will reduce major logistical and cost barriers to participation in the world, especially given the impact of “smartphone culture,” he notes. Eventually, Jacobs projects the world will draw “a billion users” and generate “a billion dollars” in revenue, considering the high participation rate and high revenue in many MMO’s and virtual worlds."
I think it is more this,in actuality he would be ignorant not to jump on that train as others have. Sorry, I think it is a good business move. :wtg:
 

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That depends on if the train is entering or leaving the station.

I can sort of see how it's supposed to work but it just sounds too good to be true.
 
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