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Where does 50% Loot goes?

Katie Chalmers said:
You can’t expect somebody to keep up with with such a recent game update such as residue use. I wonder if he still clicks each craft manually or has he figured out the auto click?
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Wait there is auto click?
 
Buying land of unicorns LA at boxes
 
Art Jennifer said:
This is why I don’t see the point investing in an expensive weapon… just doesn’t seem to change much..
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Doing the exact opposite, my experience with going high Eff & high DPS* is, for example, for 2023:
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Sometimes loot is bad. Even a month can be pretty rough; my tt for may is 95.17, still yearly is close to 99% (yes, TT out contains the TT of broken enhancers - those are 0.60 - 0.75%)
If you add the effect of the great recent changes to nanocubes and shrapnel being auctionable, it's the best year to hunt in Entropia.


* To save some folks from having some tantrums, some notes are required:
- DPS does not have a direct effect on TT return but having higher kills per hour will lead to lower volatility medium and long term and ofc a lot more markup medium term;
- Eff has a direct impact on tt return, regardless of the looter level as per community tests done by Zho and others.
- (bonus) DPP does not have a direct impact on TT return; it helps with loot composition; it will NOT spawn extra stuff in loot, it will just lower the amount of shrapnel gained on top of the same items/stackables due to having a lower cost to make a kill.
 
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Evey said:
it will NOT spawn extra stuff in loot, it will just lower the emount of shrapnel gained on top of the same items/stackables due to having a lower cost to make a kill.
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I'm not too sure what you mean here. Lowering the amount of shrapnel makes sense but if shrapnel is lowered what is it replaced with? Do you mean to say its replaced with items/stackables that you "normally"/abnormally get? In which case saying ,"it will NOT spawn extra stuff in loot" is misleading.
 
GeorgeSkywalker said:
I'm not too sure what you mean here. Lowering the amount of shrapnel makes sense but if shrapnel is lowered what is it replaced with? Do you mean to say its replaced with items/stackables that you "normally"/abnormally get? In which case saying ,"it will NOT spawn extra stuff in loot" is misleading.
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I will give you an example:
The tt you will get will be lowered, thus the filler (which on Caly is shrapnel)
If it costs you 3 PED to kill an atrox, you will get (in case of a 1x loot) 1 liver oil, some 10 hides and 1.98 ped tt shrapnel.
With a better DPP gun it will cost you 2.75 which will lower your shrapnel stack to 1.73. The difference will not be replaced.
Loot now is based on cost to kill, mostly, efficiency and looter having a direct impact on the amount (tt) you get back each kill.

What I mean with better DPP will not spawn extra stuff is that you will not get other stuff in those 1.73 left, after getting stackables...
 
robber said:
Profile of a 50% return player :
lvl 20 hunter.
Karma Killer is main wepon more tiers better
Perseus armor with 60L cold plates(actulay can be any kind a L plates)
Hires Mod healers on daily basis
Depo 200$ and because he depos expect game to be nice to him and give big hoffs.
Complains in forum and chat chanels this game is casino!
Main mobs are Dasps, Tide claws, Big Feffox etc

Thats for me a 50% return player profile.. anything to add?
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its $200 Not 200$.

the 50 percent goes to MA lmao

Every like 5 or so hunts you will have returns of about 50 percent maybe a little more maybe a little less. Even in longer term hunts with 30k shots this happens. Ensures you can never profit even if your hunting something just a tiny bit profitable.
 
Evey said:
Doing the exact opposite, my experience with going high Eff & high DPS* is, for example, for 2023:
4Z1QjO2.png


Sometimes loot is bad. Even a month can be pretty rough; my tt for may is 95.17, still yearly is close to 99% (yes, TT out contains the TT of broken enhancers - those are 0.60 - 0.75%)
If you add the effect of the great recent changes to nanocubes and shrapnel being auctionable, it's the best year to hunt in Entropia.
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Sounds like im gonna hit an ath this or next month my 8/10 months at 93% or lowere only put me at 652010 out 609569 in which is 93,49% for the year
 
Nyhm said:
its $200 Not 200$.

the 50 percent goes to MA lmao

Every like 5 or so hunts you will have returns of about 50 percent maybe a little more maybe a little less. Even in longer term hunts with 30k shots this happens. Ensures you can never profit even if your hunting something just a tiny bit profitable.
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You are a special kind a idiot.
 
Nyhm said:
Every like 5 or so hunts you will have returns of about 50 percent maybe a little more maybe a little less.
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It's not possible unless your "hunts" are super short, kills-wise. If you kill at least 2-3k mobs per run, your tt return is bound to average to 70%+ even in a worst scenario. If you are only able to kill much less, hunt smaller mobs.
 
Nyhm said:
its $200 Not 200$.

the 50 percent goes to MA lmao

Every like 5 or so hunts you will have returns of about 50 percent maybe a little more maybe a little less. Even in longer term hunts with 30k shots this happens. Ensures you can never profit even if your hunting something just a tiny bit profitable.
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Thank god I rely on my own data...
 
Svarog said:
It's not possible unless your "hunts" are super short, kills-wise. If you kill at least 2-3k mobs per run, your tt return is bound to average to 70%+ even in a worst scenario. If you are only able to kill much less, hunt smaller mobs.
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Nope 30k plus shot hunts
 
Nyhm said:
Nope 30k plus shot hunts
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Stop and think, sometimes it may do you some good.

Imagine if there was a super high hp mob which requires 60k shots to kill. Now you go along and fire all your 30k shots into this mob. What percentage return will you have? how many of these mobs will you have killed? and would it be any surprise that you have this percentage return?
 
english, grammar, and reading comprehension lessons for players.
 
Nyhm said:
its $200 Not 200$.

the 50 percent goes to MA lmao

Every like 5 or so hunts you will have returns of about 50 percent maybe a little more maybe a little less. Even in longer term hunts with 30k shots this happens. Ensures you can never profit even if your hunting something just a tiny bit profitable.
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Like I said in my original post in this thread it’s always some random people complaining about 50% returns but never show any type of proof shits a joke people will complain about any thing
 
Dude, shame on you for not being rich ! :poop:

You can't deposit $100,000 in game, so you make runs that are too short.
You have to look at the "LONG TERM" it seems.
Just ask to people who make fun of you here.
Apparently they know how to quantify something that has no end... Genius. 🧠
 
Epik said:
Often report with out any proof* most people complaining they get 50% returns are not even tracking their hunts I call bullshit until some one can actually show us long term returns that low
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people with low cycle will convert and convert and convert and then suddenly it looks like you lost a ton. unless you global it's going to be hard to see any gains after you've cycled through the same roll 10 times. they are doing the math but they are doing it intuitively and not realizing how it really works
 
@messi91 you used a phrase "follow perception veins" and honestly i'm intrigued. what does that mean?
 
jwestonmoss said:
is this like a snipe hunt kind of thing?
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a lot of idiotic loot theories are falsely based on perception skill gains

like if you mine and suddenly get a big perception gain it means you must be close to a big hit

its 100% bullshit and messi was being sarcastic by perpetuating the stupid myth

hope it clears it up
 
RT_Tony said:
a lot of idiotic loot theories are falsely based on perception skill gains

like if you mine and suddenly get a big perception gain it means you must be close to a big hit

its 100% bullshit and messi was being sarcastic by perpetuating the stupid myth

hope it clears it up
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haha ok yeah that explains it, i am not up on all the loot conspiracies. in my experience i usually seem to get more skill gains on failures than successes anyway. usually when i see a big skill hit i assume i missed on the probe drop.
 
RT_Tony said:
its 100% bullshit and messi was being sarcastic by perpetuating the stupid myth
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I love when people tried to convince me it was real and I'm like "My guy, you're using a lv 100 gun and your lv 20. Please stop"
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
I love when people tried to convince me it was real and I'm like "My guy, you're using a lv 100 gun and your lv 20. Please stop"
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oh it is still very much a thing lol, people want to believe anything that would avoid them hard work and a long ass grind
 
Korin Dante MDe said:
Players with medium skills often report 50% return in loot yet the Mindark is in losses as company. Where is 50% loot going?
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50% "often"? I call bullshit. I get crap results in hunting and even I can't agree with this. I was all set to use stats from my personal spreadsheet to explain simply how sub 50% hunts are possible (hint: daily mission bonus hunts, 10 fuga don't offer much chance to get good TT results)

...And then I noticed THIS comment you made later.
Korin Dante MDe said:
The point I want to make is balance sheet of mindark - https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/mndrk/financials/cash-flow?countrycode=se
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Oh, OK, so you were intentionally misleading everyone. You in fact are NOT talking about some mythical group of players who continually get atrocious results. Instead you failed to understand how hunting over and over with ~90% returns could possibly get down to ~50% overall left (not counting MU) after ~6-7 runs.

You intentionally fabricated a false story (I.E. lied) just in order to try to sneak in some argument that ends up being bogus.

Good day, sir!
 
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