Why are weapons "STILL" that expensive?

[Shamshe]

And thats the problem we face

A bp 70 wont solve every Problem, but even a 3 y old can pull profit with it, low enhancer Brake rate high effi good dpp and good dps..allows you to craft/self supply your enhancers and sell the oversupply to the market and. Alone by that you pull profit already, even with a qr 1 bp...

For that i pay the Premium price, yes.
Because when i use a weapon that is much worse, just to safe like 100.000-150.000 k for the Moment. I will pay for this mistake over time within one year using that compared to my bp 70.

I did think about that "investment" very well and it turned that i wuld have payed waaaaaay more peds skilling with something else

Because my goal is to reach lvl 70-140 cheap.

same here my best decision in this game was buying an lp100 even if i needed to trade my bp130 +70k for it at that time.
Yes prices went down a bit but I dont care. 1 Look at my spreadsheets compared to the bp130 and MM I had and i know i made the right decision. To me that gun is probably worth even 250k

 

[ProActive Mango]

these weapons exist lp40, lr60, lp70 are not for lvl 100+ players
the price is just tied to its demand. the fact that they go for so much money is just an indication that people are willing to spend that amount of money. It has nothing to do with these weapons being uber or not. again difference between wales and ubers.
You are just mad cause you are not willing or can spend that amount of money.
Sure I want a Lambo and the rare amount of people that can afford one and want one got one. I can afford a 20k car that doesnt mean every lambo is worth 20k.
Again it just comes down to different incomes or countries people live in or lifestyle they are having.

You are just stupid to failing to see others point of view, you are failing to see beyond your ignorance and talking so much shit and attacking others for having diffrent point of view. You are a patetic human. Good job. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[robber]

And thats the problem we face

A bp 70 wont solve every Problem, but even a 3 y old can pull profit with it, low enhancer Brake rate high effi good dpp and good dps..allows you to craft/self supply your enhancers and sell the oversupply to the market and. Alone by that you pull profit already, even with a qr 1 bp...

For that i pay the Premium price, yes.
Because when i use a weapon that is much worse, just to safe like 100.000-150.000 k for the Moment. I will pay for this mistake over time within one year using that compared to my bp 70.

I did think about that "investment" very well and it turned that i wuld have payed waaaaaay more peds skilling with something else

Because my goal is to reach lvl 70-140 cheap.

and this is your problem ... u will stick your gun in every conversation u can ... Hey did u see game yesterday? ..Naika Answer: yeah was good one but if it was BP 70 it would be even better... Btw I like Dogs better than cats and you will say yeah I like dogs too but u know what i like even more is my amazing gun i try to sell u know BP 70.. Yeah I know cuz u finish fricking every sentence how dam good is your wepon so good u want to sell it 3 days after u purchased it

but then thats again is you.. Every single time u try to sell one of your guns ITS A BEST THING ever.. sex NOOO ... BP70 is better

 

[robber]

same here my best decision in this game was buying an lp100 even if i needed to trade my bp130 +70k for it at that time.
Yes prices went down a bit but I dont care. 1 Look at my spreadsheets compared to the bp130 and MM I had and i know i made the right decision. To me that gun is probably worth even 250k

ofc its best decision ever... how can it NOT BE.. Everyone here is just to protect their investmets and i get it

 

[Shamshe]

You are just stupid to failing to see others point of view, you are failing to see beyond your ignorance and talking so much shit and attacking others for having diffrent point of view. You are a patetic human. Good job. Welcome to my ignore list.

quote me where I attacked others or you? I just gave my opinion and pointed out yours is wrong

 

[ProActive Mango]

And thats the problem we face

A bp 70 wont solve every Problem, but even a 3 y old can pull profit with it, low enhancer Brake rate high effi good dpp and good dps..allows you to craft/self supply your enhancers and sell the oversupply to the market and. Alone by that you pull profit already, even with a qr 1 bp...

For that i pay the Premium price, yes.
Because when i use a weapon that is much worse, just to safe like 100.000-150.000 k for the Moment. I will pay for this mistake over time within one year using that compared to my bp 70.

I did think about that "investment" very well and it turned that i wuld have payed waaaaaay more peds skilling with something else

Because my goal is to reach lvl 70-140 cheap.

Yes, your gun is very good and your losses are kept at a minimum with bp-70 perf. The thing is i dont want 100x bp-70 weapons, i want more avg gear added to the game that is better rsuited for loot 2.0 instead of most ppl have to be using old loot 1.0 weapons. All weapons in the twen vendor dont have to have super crazy eff or dpp, most ppl will settle for avg gear with 70% eff or 3dpp.

 

[robber]

same here my best decision in this game was buying an lp100 even if i needed to trade my bp130 +70k for it at that time.

oki i found something!
"I will just keep trucking along i might have to sell the gun to get a bankroll going again."

last update from you July Hunting log.. My guess is that your Loot iproved .. otherwise i smell a bit bulshit .. u sold your H205 already so u have peds to cycle... 1+1 dose not add up to 99% tt returns

 

[PreyNaika]

Yes, your gun is very good and your losses are kept at a minimum with bp-70 perf. The thing is i dont want 100x bp-70 weapons, i want more avg gear added to the game that is better rsuited for loot 2.0 instead of most ppl have to be using old loot 1.0 weapons. All weapons in the twen vendor dont have to have super crazy eff or dpp, most ppl will settle for avg gear with 70% eff or 3dpp.

I do understand your Problem, it just wont solve anything, instead i try to give you some sort of idea how to improve your game

You can flood the game with low mid and uber gear, it wont change anything. It just Shifts Things vom a to b

Fact is there allways will be someone who is better,who will pull mu faster, who will have better skills and so on And so on. Who Puts New boundrys.. the thing is we all need to adapt to the current system.

There are allways alternates , yes you probably dont find a ped printer for 10k Budget but you culd atleast cut your losses.

Atm The cheapest setup to build in order to pull some mu is this :

Camo bgh about 25k is the cheapest i found
Panelon spec nowdays around 9 k
Ares perfected, probably lile 1,xxx k
Left Hand hermetisch perfected

Armor you culd skip too with the camo...

 

[Shamshe]

oki i found something!
"I will just keep trucking along i might have to sell the gun to get a bankroll going again."

last update from you July Hunting log.. My guess is that your Loot iproved .. otherwise i smell a bit bulshit .. u sold your H205 already so u have peds to cycle... 1+1 dose not add up to 99% tt returns

I had a rough start with the gun not gonne lie but that was mainly my own fault. Like i stated in there my bankroll was rly low and i learned a lot since then. Now my Bankroll is closer to 100k and i can hoard more stuff, ride out bad returns, sell for higher MU etc. Its not so much that I didnt know what I was doing at the time aswell but more off lacking the funds for that gun so yes at that time it might have been better to downgrade dps to like an lr60, bp70 just to lower my overall cycle rate
Also i didnt sell the h204 to get bankroll I traded it for for lvl 80 tezzla and peds. Reason was with the lower pricing on l-amps and the benefits it gives to the lp100 it was a no brainer to go for L instead of UL

 

[PreyNaika]

and this is your problem ... u will stick your gun in every conversation u can ... Hey did u see game yesterday? ..Naika Answer: yeah was good one but if it was BP 70 it would be even better... Btw I like Dogs better than cats and you will say yeah I like dogs too but u know what i like even more is my amazing gun i try to sell u know BP 70.. Yeah I know cuz u finish fricking every sentence how dam good is your wepon so good u want to sell it 3 days after u purchased it

but then thats again is you.. Every single time u try to sell one of your guns ITS A BEST THING ever.. sex NOOO ... BP70 is better

And i know i trigger you with it

 

[robber]

And i know i trigger you with it

You Sir are mistaken things like that dose not triger me .. I use stuff like that to make fun about you! u r gift which keeps giving

 

[Shamshe]

You Sir are mistaken things like that dose not triger me .. I use stuff like that to make fun about you! u r gift which keeps giving

I know what will trigger him

LP100 is better then BP70 !

 

[PreyNaika]

I know what will trigger him

LP100 is better then BP70 !

No way ! The bp 70 is the allmighty key to uberness ! A lp 100 is just a Bad BP 70

 

[robber]

I know what will trigger him

LP100 is better then BP70 !

Thats a good one!


P.S.

Its funny cuz its truth !

 

[Msturlese]

Dude if you read what i write its not communism, i dont want everyone to have the same, i want more ul items for the range of 10-80 level, there is way to little gear for how many players there are.

there are actually cheap ways to skill and they involve some studym, chosing targets and choosing gears.
of course a fat wallet helps to obtain quality of life.
but the poiint is
THERE ARE MANY 20 to 50 players so those level low stats items is in demand and expecially in long range items because of the "bukin rifle" effect that make people use a "laser rifle" as first choice.
going to other items all becomes cheaper..

 

[Spawn]

Why are weapons "STILL" that expensive? ->​

It's because with the new weapons you are garanteed to profit, that's why everyone is going for them. Yeah, wise choice people!

 

[Sulje]

Perhaps we have diffrent opinion on what an yber is. If you say the vendor only has one weapon for ybers we are miles apart on whats considered an yber. Not everyone in this game has 50,000$ to play a video game with.
Using a level 50-80 weapon in the game requires you to have atleast 20,000$ or else there will be big problems.
Most players are comfortable at level 20-50 level and can find enjoyment in that level and not have to sell a car to play with.

All im saying is bring more lower level stuff for people, whats so bad about that?

With 10.000 PED to 20.000 PED bankroll you can make wonders

 

[Msturlese]

You are just stupid to failing to see others point of view, you are failing to see beyond your ignorance and talking so much shit and attacking others for having diffrent point of view. You are a patetic human. Good job. Welcome to my ignore list.

as languiage and personal attack kick in it means the argumetnsa re finished.
we ahve a final point

if you can afford a good weapon get it
if you cant supply with more study and more dediation
on the other hand a good tool alone will not save your ped card.
lower level "good items" are worth more because of "lower ped per hour cycle" is affordable by more players so demand is high
a level 180 57 eff gun is good only for 3% of players in event time only.....

 

[ProActive Mango]

as languiage and personal attack kick in it means the argumetnsa re finished.
we ahve a final point

if you can afford a good weapon get it
if you cant supply with more study and more dediation
on the other hand a good tool alone will not save your ped card.
lower level "good items" are worth more because of "lower ped per hour cycle" is affordable by more players so demand is high
a level 180 57 eff gun is good only for 3% of players in event time only.....

Its very common on this forum that people attack the person comming with new ideas or want something to change instead of attacking the idea. Its like your talking to kids who cant behave or have a conversation about diffrent opinions.
Its just sad.

 

[Msturlese]

@ Mango: we have criticized your arguments in all the way possible,
explained (and you showed to perfectly understadn it ) how it works.
sadly it was useless because you reiterate over and over the "price is too high" mantra.
price is not set by MA, a ful TT Modmerc is 1500 TT ped for MA,
cost to obtain, utility to own set the price.
some item have a "Baseline" price, we all know that mayhem token cost 0.3/0.5 ped to be manufactured, no one will sell under that and also will require a premium for collectign and for "rare" luck roll.
Same is for tokens, baseline is probably 0.20/0.3 and that is the point where it converges for "less interesting items".
here FOMO kick in... some ppl want some specific item, some item will remain in the vendor because are "less interesting".
there are TWEN BP20 are vlow end items.... can get one NOW for 50.000 * 0.9 = 45.000 PED, 4000 EUR, or wait and hope for prices to fall...
yo ucant afford?= sorry, i cant afford even a third hand ferrari, so i drive a KIA... this is life, it is not fair
seems that you can not digest this.... items are there to pick
a BP20 i bought for 23k last week... a weak claw is same... high stat items, low dps are in the 2000/2500 eur, mid level are 7000/10.000 EUR, this is not a low cost game, but also give "opportunity" to recoup the spending. in diablo immortal no money back at all
and ppl poured 10k's in it

 

[ProActive Mango]

@ Mango: we have criticized your arguments in all the way possible,
explained (and you showed to perfectly understadn it ) how it works.
sadly it was useless because you reiterate over and over the "price is too high" mantra.
price is not set by MA, a ful TT Modmerc is 1500 TT ped for MA,
cost to obtain, utility to own set the price.
some item have a "Baseline" price, we all know that mayhem token cost 0.3/0.5 ped to be manufactured, no one will sell under that and also will require a premium for collectign and for "rare" luck roll.
Same is for tokens, baseline is probably 0.20/0.3 and that is the point where it converges for "less interesting items".
here FOMO kick in... some ppl want some specific item, some item will remain in the vendor because are "less interesting".
there are TWEN BP20 are vlow end items.... can get one NOW for 50.000 * 0.9 = 45.000 PED, 4000 EUR, or wait and hope for prices to fall...
yo ucant afford?= sorry, i cant afford even a third hand ferrari, so i drive a KIA... this is life, it is not fair
seems that you can not digest this.... items are there to pick
a BP20 i bought for 23k last week... a weak claw is same... high stat items, low dps are in the 2000/2500 eur, mid level are 7000/10.000 EUR, this is not a low cost game, but also give "opportunity" to recoup the spending. in diablo immortal no money back at all
and ppl poured 10k's in it

You are wrong, i dont "whine" over prices, i see that there is a shortage of gear in the game and i see alot of resellers are holding alot of gear keeping prices artificial high thats what i have said.
Im saying here that i want to see more TWEN items in all level ranges and in all fields of gameplay like pistol,rifle,gaus,mf and melee. Armours is lacking in the TWEN vendor. So many newer players or oldtimers that want to play at a casual level would love to have something cool to grind for.

 

[Angela Draniie Cloud]

List of all items that fits your criteria and current (as of posting) amount still in the vendor.


Armor Plating 5B: 210 (2k & 40p)
Armor Plating 5D: 210-9 (2k & 40p)
Armor Plating 6A: 210-9 (1.5k & 40p)

Armatrix BP-20: 3 (50k & 45p)
Armatrix LR-40 : 3 (100k & 85p)
Armatrix SB-10: 2 (50k & 25p)
Calytrek CR Spirit Mk.2: 3 (50k & 110p)
Fire Forge DAR 9300: 3 (50k & 134p)
Castorian Combat Enblade-10: 5 (50k & 300p)
Camo Arms Jungle Stalker: 5 (50k & 245p)
Meckel & Loch ML-35: 5 (50k & 230p)

Sollomate Opalo: 8 (15k & 3.8p)
A-3 Justifier Mk.2: 1 (20k & 85p)
A&P Series Hero Adjusted: 7 (25k & 450p)

Armor (all 15k ea)
POTE Arm Guard (F): 5 (202.2p)
POTE Foot Guards(F): 5 (190p)
POTE Gloves(F): 6-1 (190p)
POTE Harness(F): 6 (259p)
POTE Helmet(F): 6-1 (119.4p)
POTE Shin Guards(F): 6 (193p)
POTE Thigh Guards(F): 6 (206p)
POTE Arm Guard (M): 10 (202.2p)
POTE Foot Guards(M): 11 (190p)
POTE Gloves(M): 11 (190p)
POTE Harness(M): 11 (259p)
POTE Helmet(M): 11 (119.4p)
POTE Shin Guards(M): 11 (193p)
POTE Thigh Guards(M): 10 (206p)


All these items require level 50 or less and with current token prices are between 1500 ped to 100k ped

So 45 weapons that YOU RIGHT NOW could be working towards or buying from the vendor

This does not include amps, faps or mining tools.

 

[Msturlese]

armors... with 2.0 armor decay is a minor issue
300 ped Ghost and 300 ped 5b goes a long way
1500 ped vigilante and 50 ped 6a make you a robot destroyer
2000 ped nemesis is a "old times uber" armor

bigger armors are for bigger monsters that require bigger guns and bigger ped cards.

if i am to consider items, i would have put 100 BP20 FEN at 25.000 tokens each
and 100 sb-10 for 10.000 token each.
but its me

 

[Angela Draniie Cloud]

if i am to consider items, i would have put 100 BP20 FEN at 25.000 tokens each
and 100 sb-10 for 10.000 token each.
but its me

Mindark has no reason to do that, supply vs demand. If UL are cheaper, then people are depoing less to buy them. Does MA want someone to deposit $200 for a loot 2.0 weapon or $2000?

Well looking at the historical 27-35% Withdraw rate, that's 130-146 dollars Never getting withdrawn versus 1300-1460 dollars never getting withdrawn. Big difference.

 

[Dibbler]

It seems people forget the important art of haggling

Things are simple, if a price is to high nobody will buy. Supply and demand are both equally important.

 

[The Great Adventurer]

It seems people forget the important art of haggling

Things are simple, if a price is to high nobody will buy. Supply and demand are both equally important.

>

 

[Killahbee]

Prices are declining and will continue t o do so untill unreal, people need to accept their losses on their investment in gear. And most haven't, yet... Which is understandable, but it's also the reason a lot of gear isn't moving atm.

 

[robber]

Prices are declining and will continue t o do so untill unreal, people need to accept their losses on their investment in gear. And most haven't, yet... Which is understandable, but it's also the reason a lot of gear isn't moving atm.

Did robber hacked your account.. wait what ?

 

[IzroD]

TWEN is resettins some standards in price BUT...
a glinting rifle that is half price of a BC80 is available jsut to 5 people ... so it will rise in value, not see the BC80 fall
on the other hand, melee high end weapons will devalue "decay" melee items because have few players interested... a 90 level club, a 90 level PF, are less interesting.

below scimitar of mages there is an interesting smaller sword, that is a levelling tool
at some price a twen bp20 is a very good skilling item ... bp20 is an amazing small tool that will not go under 20k ped

Well,people who have bc80 payed huge amount of peds for it..People dont wanna sell for 50-100peds less for something they have payed more and how someone will say " good-bye" to 10-12k $.

People like to buy cheap but dont like to sell for less price they have payed.
Prices for the guns and overall gear are very high ( i am not complaining) just my 1 pec opinion.
I am not much complaining for the prices directly but indirectly.Investing a lot of money in virtual game where nobody guarantees you will have the money tomorrow.
Happened multiple times,many investments and MA just changes it because he can..
Not to mention loss is guaranteed aswell,it only depends on you how much you will lose at the end..and yeah some will say " they make money".Probably they are..some...and those are big wallets, already a decade + years players..
How many peds were made by exploiting bugs and other things what we are not aware of...

I feel bad i came back to the game and spended all my money in it...i wish i went to the casino and try my luck there,EU is similar to casino,you just pick how big stakes they will be and how fast u will lose...

I will probably get all dislikes,ofc because most of them invested a lot and dont like to read it..i feel ya..i could keep typing..but i dont see any point.

I love the game,but system is crap,greedy and made for real cash spenders and time consumable which not many can afford to spent 10h per day on a game.

 

[Droob]

Mindark has no reason to do that, supply vs demand. If UL are cheaper, then people are depoing less to buy them. Does MA want someone to deposit $200 for a loot 2.0 weapon or $2000?

Well looking at the historical 27-35% Withdraw rate, that's 130-146 dollars Never getting withdrawn versus 1300-1460 dollars never getting withdrawn. Big difference.

MA would count those deposited PED as a liability. Surely they would see more profit from increasing the number of players cycling PED? Although perhaps it wouldn't be 'new' avatars cycling an increased amount, just existing ones switching weapons.