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AlexGray said:
The irony is that if you read a lot of EULA rules, you can see this ... MA never owes anything to anyone. You will never be able to sue them anywhere.
You click "I agree" every time. Apparently the MA lawyers are very good at wording.
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I'm not a lawyer, but EULAs don't absolve a company from all lawsuits. This is a general point unrelated to MA specifically.
 
This game is starting to feel more and more like a fossil from the past. The official transfer time for a withdrawal is 50 business days. It is spectacularly slow and obviously at the bortom of MA's list of priorities. We live in 2021, there are several fast and secure solutions to this.
 
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JaySmooth said:
This game is starting to feel more and more like a fossil from the past. The official transfer time for a withdrawal is 50 business days. It is spectacularly slow and obviously at the bortom of MA's list of priorities. We live in 2021, there are several fast and secure solutions to this.
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It take 50 days not because they cant send them faster, they could next day. Money laundering or fraud attempts are the problem.
 
unufain8 said:
It take 50 days not because they cant send them faster, they could next day. Money laundering or fraud attempts are the problem.
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To be honest, I think that is just an excuse. It's not hard to find out if money is being laundered, and this game is not a good way to launder money when compared to cryptocurencies, NFT'S and similar.
 
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unufain8 said:
It take 50 days not because they cant send them faster, they could next day. Money laundering or fraud attempts are the problem.
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Then explain me please, why we dont see the same approach on gambling sites, cryptocurrency exchanges, eToro etc ?
 
AlexGray said:
The irony is that if you read a lot of EULA rules, you can see this ... MA never owes anything to anyone. You will never be able to sue them anywhere.
You click "I agree" every time. Apparently the MA lawyers are very good at wording.
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Since when does company policy trump federal law? This is a classic case of theft by deception. Nowhere in EULA does it limit the amount of money a player can withdraw or deposit within the game. Seems like EU is just upset that you were able to withdraw more than you deposited which was never supposed to be the goal of this game from the developers perspective. If I go to the casino with $10,000 worth of poker chips and after 10 hours of gambling, I'm up $1,000,000. The casino can't tell me that I'm not able to convert my poker chips back into U.S. dollars because I'm leaving with more money than I came in with. The only thing the casino can do is pay you out your $1,000,000 and potentially ban you from the casino for life.
 
Kalixt said:
Then explain me please, why we dont see the same approach on gambling sites, cryptocurrency exchanges, eToro etc ?
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My theory on the waiting 50 business days to receive your money has nothing to do with money laundering but instead they are trying to hold onto your money as long as possible to collect as much interest off your money from the bank before they have to give it back to you.
 
Kalixt said:
Then explain me please, why we dont see the same approach on gambling sites, cryptocurrency exchanges, eToro etc ?
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To be honest, delaying the time of withdrawals can make the participant to cancel the withdraw, this happent to me with my 1st withdrawal back time ago. And to answer your question about gambling sites, there are thousands of site who are out there of that kind, its competition, games like EU are just a few, same as monopol.
 
I have saved some amount in my account. a lot or a little is not for me to decide. I asked the support service to estimate the possible loss from my unnamed actions.
I probably have about 100k ped. I suggested MindArk to withdraw them from me if they believe that they were illegally earned over the years of playing.
But they are just silent.
 
JaySmooth said:
To be honest, I think that is just an excuse. It's not hard to find out if money is being laundered, and this game is not a good way to launder money when compared to cryptocurencies, NFT'S and similar.
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You forget the "fraud" part.

Sure money laundering is addressed, But MA also wants to know how you get that money you opted to withdraw.
And if you got that money by " abusing" the system MA will prevent you from taking it out.
That needs to be figured out and that takes time. Especially in the case of MA, where even fixing the smallest bug takes months, or even years.

There's only 1 case in which problems are solved within days or even hours, and that's when you have problems depositing.
 
AlexGray said:
I have saved some amount in my account. a lot or a little is not for me to decide. I asked the support service to estimate the possible loss from my unnamed actions.
I probably have about 100k ped. I suggested MindArk to withdraw them from me if they believe that they were illegally earned over the years of playing.
But they are just silent.
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Who abandons like that "hard earned" money?
 
This thread: "Two crooks walk into a forum..." :D
 
JaySmooth said:
To be honest, I think that is just an excuse. It's not hard to find out if money is being laundered, and this game is not a good way to launder money when compared to cryptocurencies, NFT'S and similar.
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What if PED were to be deposited with stolen cards? and someone was trying to make out with a withdraw before the first charge back? That is more than enough of a reason imo. and if that also sounds like "just an excuse" to you, it sounds like a very good excuse to me.

Ben Tony Dover said:
Seems like EU is just upset that you were able to withdraw more than you deposited which was never supposed to be the goal of this game from the developers perspective.
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If that's the case then I dont think you will have any issues withdrawing, you shouldnt worry about it ?
 
Crabby said:
What if PED were to be deposited with stolen cards? and someone was trying to make out with a withdraw before the first charge back? That is more than enough of a reason imo. and if that also sounds like "just an excuse" to you, it sounds like a very good excuse to me.


If that's the case then I dont think you will have any issues withdrawing, you shouldnt worry about it ?
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Have you ever tried to deposit with a card that doesn't have your name on it? The account will be locked instantly. This even happens sometimes when you add a new card with your name on it :D
 
Anyone care to explain what OP did so horrible? PM welcome if it cant be said in public :D
 
The only valid reason for absolute silence is if they were given an explicit gag order by legal authorities. If this is the case, there must be serious investigations or proceedings against the account holder. But if he knew about any such thing, it would make no sense to speak up publicly since it will only backfire.

If you believe you are innocent, you can always avail yourself of this procedure to at least enforce an answer:

European small claims procedure - Wikipedia

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This was hinted at several times before, has anyone ever done it and why not? You asked for help.
 
MrMayhem said:
Anyone care to explain what OP did so horrible? PM welcome if it cant be said in public :D
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Most likely some sort of market manipulation but its weird cuz some ppls that i know they are banned now. So he did something super fishy. In 16 years i never had withdraw problems and always those kind of topics come with half of story :D
 
I guess I don't understand. You say you returned the money for "Bad" transactions. So you cheated players and can't withdraw. I am surprised you are still here.
 
allarom said:
Have you ever tried to deposit with a card that doesn't have your name on it? The account will be locked instantly.
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On 2 occasions and that never happened. :D:D:D:D:D

You can use a card belonging to someone else as long as you have the cardholders permission to use it. -MindArk
 
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