Would you play EU if...

I play another online game (that I won't mention), and it's extremely satisfying building up wealth which you can't lose. Once you earned that growth in your account it continues, and you gain more and more better powerful items. Obviously though I can never withdraw it, but I don't care.

With an RCE you can gain everything at a price, but also I felt very vulnerable too even with items of wealth in EU.

I believe there is good and bad in both scenarios (RCE and non-RCE), and each type will suit different pockets.

When your avatar is running hot in EU, it can be exhilarating and feel very rewarding. Hitting an ATH is everyone's dream here.

Rick
 
When your avatar is running hot in EU, it can be exhilarating and feel very rewarding. Hitting an ATH is everyone's dream here.

Rick

This a reply based on courage.

I should add: another pragmatic English person.
 
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Yes, this.

Would one play anything in life with a sure thing? That is the question answered above.

Obviously not, but a near thing? or a thing that might give some return? yes.

EU only makes sense when you think of it as a throw of the dice, otherwise we are in the realms of delusion.

We play because we like to throw dice, which is fine. This reply is not directed to you Magyar of course, since you are as aware as I.

I agree with the throw of the dice concept. Having said that I think it is a little, and I mean little, more than that. I am sure all have heard the story about the team of college students that "Beat" Vegas odds in blackjack and were banned and so on and so on. However I watched a PBS station special about the team and in fact toward the end of their endeavor they lost most of the money they had won.

My point is, according to MA it is not a pure throw of the dice because there are other factors involved that tills the odd, ever so slightly, in your favor along with the chance involved but I think in the end MA will get their part:).
 
However I watched a PBS station special about the team and in fact toward the end of their endeavor they lost most of the money they had won.

My point is, according to MA it is not a pure throw of the dice because there are other factors involved that tills the odd, ever so slightly, in your favor along with the chance involved but I think in the end MA will get their part:).

The house always wins... a fact of life. I agree.

That the house is so small and so reliant on few people I do not accept.

I would never imagine running a business where I shunned so many customers. Would you?
 
The house always wins... a fact of life. I agree.

That the house is so small and so reliant on few people I do not accept.

I would never imagine running a business where I shunned so many customers. Would you?

btw: stuck on Monria cave 1 tp.. a lift - 20 ped. be grateful.
 
Nah I wouldnt play, unless it was stable and faster to skill up like other mmos... The longevity is a key point to this game, but without the rce element would you bother playing a game where you need to plan 6-8 yrs in advance..?
 
Nah I wouldnt play, unless it was stable and faster to skill up like other mmos... The longevity is a key point to this game, but without the rce element would you bother playing a game where you need to plan 6-8 yrs in advance..?

i.e would you play a game where you got so little reward for so much effort.

No.

We are gamblers, but the more there are, the less are our odds.

Niche gambling is fine, but in a 5 billion people world, they are missing the niche.

It is like throwing a wet sock into wintertime.... you are going to get nothing back.
 
If it would be just another mmo without rce?
Clearly NO, lol. (There are way better contestants available)
 
If it would be just another mmo without rce?
Clearly NO, lol. (There are way better contestants available)

I am trying to get this post.

A MMO with a secure RCE concept = a lot of players.

A business plan with a lot of thoughts, ideas, and imagination = 200 000, 600 000, or more.

A bunch of morons in an office who made something happen and are just happy to live off nothing = EU
 
The house always wins... a fact of life. I agree.

That the house is so small and so reliant on few people I do not accept.

I would never imagine running a business where I shunned so many customers. Would you?

Those are facts. I can not believe, like you say, the shunning of so many customers. Is it possible that MA does not realize that they are doing exactly that. I won't even list all of the examples that I can think of.

I, myself do not have a problem with making a deposit every month or so because I am will to pay for my enjoyment. But I don't like to deposit 100 USD just to hunt Combibos or Exarosaures, I want to hunt Araneatrox and Falxangius and Proterons and you can not do that without a lot of ped or at least I can't. So give me a decent HOF once in a while because I am going to spend it anyway. I once got a 13K HOF and I bet it didn't last over 4 or 5 weeks and I was depositing again but I didn't mind.

I think I read one of the posts that said more players mean less chance of hitting the big one but I think that is going to make the odds better IMO. Do it like a slot machine, if it takes in 100K it will pay out 97K, just don't be the one who puts in the 100K:).

I am hard core and I love this game I just wish MA could figure out some of things said here and work on them.
 
Said this many times before and guess I'll do it again:
If EU wasn't a RCE it had been developed in a completly different way. :)
So more or less impossible to say if I had been playing it or not, but I guess so...
 
I, myself do not have a problem with making a deposit every month or so because I am will to pay for my enjoyment. But I don't like to deposit 100 USD just to hunt Combibos or Exarosaures, I want to hunt Araneatrox and Falxangius and Proterons

I think you make me quote on xmas day.

You make the point.

I also have no interest in horseshit, but there are many players how could

#1 hunt exos and daikibas and mine for lyst

#2 a lot of people willing to craft sheet metal

and all should do so without paying through the nose to do so.

That you or I can pay through the nose is in no way a defence of doing so.

That you or I are capable of paying through the nose is no defence of a game that makes this happen.

Personally, I would prefer game were we all have fun. I am looking to 2014 to make this happen.
 
I think you make me quote on xmas day.

You make the point.

I also have no interest in horseshit, but there are many players how could

#1 hunt exos and daikibas and mine for lyst

#2 a lot of people willing to craft sheet metal

and all should do so without paying through the nose to do so.

That you or I can pay through the nose is in no way a defence of doing so.

That you or I are capable of paying through the nose is no defence of a game that makes this happen.

Personally, I would prefer game were we all have fun. I am looking to 2014 to make this happen.

Yes the paying too much is the crappy part especially to hunt babies. However, I have cut back on the size of mobs I hunt( from L30-L40 to L7-L25) and I am having fun with no thought of a big HOF and cost is much less but worth more to me because of the fun I am having. My runs are small, like they where when I first started and I usually just need a mini-global to break even, not counting weapon decay ( armor, amps, etc. are all UL) but everything else. I also try to shoot mobs where I loot a weapon I can use so I don't have to pay MU on the auction. Sometimes the weapon is smaller than I want but it just takes longer to kill the mob. Like I said above I would like to hunt the biggies but that is hard to do with a weapon that does 60 dpm tops with an amp on it :).
 
Sometimes the weapon is smaller than I want but it just takes longer to kill the mob. Like I said above I would like to hunt the biggies but that is hard to do with a weapon that does 60 dpm tops with an amp on it :).

Yes, I agree with your entire post, and it is very boring for someone who has done all that. Hence why I don't like playing Monopoly anymore, no do I like to faceplant into a twister game anymore.

We move on in our gaming experience, and demand more. Hence the dreadful dropout rate of good players from EU once they see they cannot play a game they enjoy ( indeed loved ) but because they can no longer afford to play at the level they want.

Would more players make a difference? I wonder. Also, the added bonus of retaining a customer base.

See those last three words as a basic idea of good business. I do. Niche, let me remind some ( not you I think ) is not equal to a very small number of players, but an optimal level of operating capital / customer ( payer ) ratio that keeps the old guys but brings in the new.
 
random idea #1

Support a top crafter hurt by EU and make them a bank... say 25% of your depos per month for a year.

random idea #2 set up a website to support such an idea.

By the way. I would support top crafters because they are top investors.

random idea #3. Make your own bank.. of Enropia Truth. In say say 12 months once you have 50 million Euros / 29 million pounds / 50 cents US:)

random ideas #4 and #5 are to follow.. all will be so much better than the greed and loss of so many ( and I have seen so many, as others ) of good people.

Time to end this horseshit? These guys would be happy to get paid large. So let's do it and move on.
 
Time to end this horseshit? These guys would be happy to get paid large. So let's do it and move on.

Note, I chose this segment of a quote.

I rate Entropia thus:

Players

Crafters. Hunters. Miners. Gamers. Mods. Game organisers and managers.

me.

I am told to edit.

#1 I am not an Anglophile... I am born and bred English.

#2. I am a communist. I run a very rich business IRL.

#3. I am a pervert troll woman hater

I generally have a woman in my life who is 11 yrs younger than me and she is American?:)

#4 I just am a hater. No

#5 Try to get this. I am wanting to make this an all game for all and everyone. The Prot hunters. The Dasp people. The new guys who are happy to hunt baby mobs.

For everyone.

try to get it.
 
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We have to think of what we want from gaming, because what you want from life has failed so far.

And will continue to do so.

Think about what I got from life.

My wife is my life, your bullshit your life.

She saw yo name Mega, and she kicked me in the head.

But we know each other. But I am always happy to see you Mega as the game is always here

Mega, you are a legend. a wife be damned
 
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I wouldnt even log in once....But i do agree a little bit with Rick...Its an expensive game that gives little back
 
i might have tried it but quit quite fast if it wasnt rce.. im not too big fan of grinding in other games but here its different

would you also quit if most of the societies you joined were made by me...

would you also not playing against big mobs you learnt to hate.

would you also not learn to get paid off by those people who would and will pay you to deny the fun is to kill an Atrox Stalker, a Daspetor or some other fucked up mob.

Are you not a cheating ass bastard in or midst?

would you also quit if most of the societies you joined were made by me...

would you also not playing against big mobs you learnt to hate.

would you also not learn to get paid off by those people who would and will pay you to deny the fun is to kill an Atrox Stalker, a Daspetor or some other fucked up mob.

Are you not a cheating ass bastard in or midst?

Mega btw.. reconnect me...

Yes I would.

mega is a very nice person... one of the few I have met in EU as it happens.

And yes I like to fuck with you all because you are all so uneducated and easily led, it disgusts me.

Mega btw.. reconnect me...

Yes I would.

mega is a very nice person... one of the few I have met in EU as it happens.

And yes I like to fuck with you all because you are all so uneducated and easily led, it disgusts me.

so send him a message dammit

so send him a message dammit

if you are on this page Mega, am here, as aways brother. ignore those small time fools:)

if you are on this page Mega, am here, as aways brother. ignore those small time fools:)

also I hear. you have stamina bro and I am with you

However I a looking for the Bro I helped to skill his mf and the bro who runs a very good soc.

I hear he is called Mega
 
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Yes i think i would play Entropia Universe without RCE. After all i wasn't drawn by that into the game first, to be honest i had no idea what rce meant when i downloaded project entropia.

My focus was on science fiction , robots, exploring an alien planet where hightech meet frontier pioneering. And project entropia delivered that so well that i didn't mind the cost to play. (This setting was stronger within the old engine)

Until today there is no decent post apokalyptic or science fiction mmo that deliver the points i mentioned above tailored in a fps combat enviroment with AAA rating and a seamless, presistent world thats not a grindmill and have a bare minnimum on social interaction that go beyond Lf group to kill xyz.
 
yes I would play it without RCE.

and for all those saying it would work any other way, how can you be sure? Wake up, this is not a popular game, why? because it costs way to much money for the average gamer.

If it was subscription game, and you could sell your PED to other players. Then I don't see why this game couldn't be more popular than it is now. Works for a lot of other games and they have hundreds of thousands or millions of players.

In the games world there isn't many alternatives to entropia, Sci fi RPG with hunting, mining, crafting, land management, pvp, very deep skills and proffesion that takes long time to develop, huge collection of items to choose from etc. Try to think of another game the is anywhere near the genre of entropia that could keep you trying to develop your avatar for years and I will be surprised.

RCE is just a draw back to me, as my wallet cant afford all the gear I want :D

But then I play entropia because I like the game, Im not here to get rich like the majority of people think entropia is all about.

Just my opinion.
 
yes I would play it without RCE.

and for all those saying it would work any other way, how can you be sure? Wake up, this is not a popular game, why? because it costs way to much money for the average gamer.

If it was subscription game, and you could sell your PED to other players. Then I don't see why this game couldn't be more popular than it is now. Works for a lot of other games and they have hundreds of thousands or millions of players.

In the games world there isn't many alternatives to entropia, Sci fi RPG with hunting, mining, crafting, land management, pvp, very deep skills and proffesion that takes long time to develop, huge collection of items to choose from etc. Try to think of another game the is anywhere near the genre of entropia that could keep you trying to develop your avatar for years and I will be surprised.

RCE is just a draw back to me, as my wallet cant afford all the gear I want :D

But then I play entropia because I like the game, Im not here to get rich like the majority of people think entropia is all about.

Just my opinion.

Interesting that you should say that. I read an article in Wired magazine about a guy that hired quite a few people (like 100s) to play WoW. Put them a huge warehouse and they played 24 hr./day. It was in Asia as I recall but don't remember which country. They played just for the gold and then he would sell it on e-bay, I think it was. He made millions, I think it was like 100s of millions of dollars. Anyway as always happens, WoW didn't like someone to make money off their idea and somehow got it shut down. BS IMO because it made more player want to play and was not hurting them at all.

Just an opinion on the post about getting rich instead of playing for the fun of it. I think it was well said because there is more to game than the money. I would not think hardly anyone who has played over a year would think they are going to get rich playing this game (Except Alan who got 332K HOF after 6 mos. of play). I know that I don't mind a depo now and then but I would like to make enough to play more than 3 days before having to depo again:).
 
yes I would play it without RCE.

and for all those saying it would work any other way, how can you be sure? Wake up, this is not a popular game, why? because it costs way to much money for the average gamer.

If it was subscription game, and you could sell your PED to other players. Then I don't see why this game couldn't be more popular than it is now. Works for a lot of other games and they have hundreds of thousands or millions of players.

In the games world there isn't many alternatives to entropia, Sci fi RPG with hunting, mining, crafting, land management, pvp, very deep skills and proffesion that takes long time to develop, huge collection of items to choose from etc. Try to think of another game the is anywhere near the genre of entropia that could keep you trying to develop your avatar for years and I will be surprised.

RCE is just a draw back to me, as my wallet cant afford all the gear I want :D

But then I play entropia because I like the game, Im not here to get rich like the majority of people think entropia is all about.

Just my opinion.
Yep, if EU was like any other ordinary subscription game, they could spend way more
time in development in content than in security and balance as they have to do today... ;)
 
Yep, if EU was like any other ordinary subscription game, they could spend way more
time in development in content than in security and balance as they have to do today... ;)

but it would be just that if no RCE a ordinary boring subscription game
 
but it would be just that if no RCE a ordinary boring subscription game

I think you miss the point... a lot of us aren't here for the RCE.
We are here for a potential of a interesting sci fi gameplay, that sadly is limited due
to the boring RCE... ;) Nothing wrong with RCE, sadly it get screwed up when it is
combined with certain humans, due to greed, selfishness and so on.
RCE should be a enviroment with RC-values, not a source for RL daily income.

Reason why there are so many "boring subscription games" out there is due to
game developers are often to chicken to create something completly new.
Too often they develop a look-a-like of something else...
 
EU the way it is now is the reason many people play. It can be damned frustrating at times, and really rewarding at others. Part of this excitement, and :banghead:, is because real money is at stake in the game.

This coupled with the fact that the game has an overall negative expectation paves the way for it to be emotionally intense as well as extremely challenging. We're all here for the "EU high" no other game can provide. ;)
 
I think you miss the point... a lot of us aren't here for the RCE.
We are here for a potential of a interesting sci fi gameplay,

then why not play one of the million other sci fi games on the market.
Instead of playing the one and only RCE game on the market?
 
then why not play one of the million other sci fi games on the market.
Instead of playing the one and only RCE game on the market?

name one game that's like this?

Every other MMORPG is a WoW clone, and im just not into trolls, dwarfs and wizzards
 
EU the way it is now is the reason many people play

im sorry but many people don't play. Infact very few play, and I think its the cost to play by a poorly managed RCE is the reason. The higher skilled you get, the higher your costs are.
 
then why not play one of the million other sci fi games on the market.
Instead of playing the one and only RCE game on the market?

There are no other games that are even close to EU... yet. :)
 
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