Question: Your average mining return is?

Your average return is ?

  • 10-40%

    Votes: 11 11.2%
  • 40-60%

    Votes: 15 15.3%
  • 60-80%

    Votes: 36 36.7%
  • 80-I`m doing too great!!

    Votes: 36 36.7%

  • Total voters
    98

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What is your average (TT) return from mining these days?
I for one mine lootable pvp areas for years and never been this bad, MA anounced a mining system change while ago and many were saying its boring cause no more hofs bla bla bla, they do not anounce other change yet now we have s#1t claim size back, no hofs (for me) and on top claim hit rate same as foma....gj MA.
 
What is your average (TT) return from mining these days?
I for one mine lootable pvp areas for years and never been this bad, MA anounced a mining system change while ago and many were saying its boring cause no more hofs bla bla bla, they do not anounce other change yet now we have s#1t claim size back, no hofs (for me) and on top claim hit rate same as foma....gj MA.

Nice options on the poll... as VERY many mining blogs have showed most of the answers will be 80+ (more close to 90% actually)
BestGamerEver- nice name also :D, maybe do some longer runs.
 
Nice options on the poll... as VERY many mining blogs have showed most of the answers will be 80+ (more close to 90% actually)
BestGamerEver- nice name also :D, maybe do some longer runs.

If it takes more than 10k drops to get avg return higher than 68.5% which is im on it atm, i dont want any part of it :)

And guy mining same area as mine but unamped gets more n biggest hofs than me with D amps, i mean wtf?
 
If it takes more than 10k drops to get avg return higher than 68.5% which is im on it atm, i dont want any part of it :)

And guy mining same area as mine but unamped gets more n biggest hofs than me with D amps, i mean wtf?

you have avg tt return 68,5% on untaxed land areas after 10k drops? Or you mistakenly count d amp markup in costs? i have had also low returns but 68,5% seems way too low for 10k drops, do another 10k, maybe it will be 112% then to even it out.
 
you have avg tt return 68,5% on untaxed land areas after 10k drops? Or you mistakenly count d amp markup in costs? i have had also low returns but 68,5% seems way too low for 10k drops, do another 10k, maybe it will be 112% then to even it out.

Pure tt return, exca n finder cost not even included, tt bck / (amp tt + probe)
And yes, all untaxed at caly
 
where is 100%+ option in pool
 
It takes a massive ped card to mine with just d-class or level 7 amps . What I usually mine with is level 5 amps or lower depending on the claim size and hit rate I am getting and my returns are mostly in the 80 to 90 percent range that way.

If you must mine with just a d-class or level 7 than atleast go unamped for a few drops to test the area first because you just cant cover enough area with those big amps without the massive ped cards.
 
I have a TT return of 72% for the last 6000 peds spent, all with level 5 amps.

This has never happened to me before and I'm a lvl 46 prospector, naturally skilled, so I have a dropped some probes over the last years... So I also believe something is really wrong with the mining system atm, or at least on Calypso because I have not heard from miners on RT and Arkadia to get similar low returns.
 
Pure tt return, exca n finder cost not even included, tt bck / (amp tt + probe)
And yes, all untaxed at caly

yes, but 190 % ores have their own rules, i think.

i´m at ~85 % Overall... including some taxed mining @ FOMA.
 
5500 ped level 5 77% tt return, tt return is around 80% this month
 
yes, but 190 % ores have their own rules, i think.

i´m at ~85 % Overall... including some taxed mining @ FOMA.

Even FOMA can do better :yay: wth we have lootable pvp then....
 
93% back 270 d-class/ A22 :smoke::smoke::smoke:
since the change it takes twice the time to get 90% back then before and twice the peds. But eventually it gets back to 90% or over if u hit smthng really good ;)
 
....... But eventually it gets back to 90% or over if u hit smthng really good ;)
Thats is more gambleing than mining for MU no ? and belive me 270 d-class is small sample size compared to mine...
 
Thats is more gambleing than mining for MU no ? and belive me 270 d-class is small sample size compared to mine...

oh thats just for the last month... yes u r right its more or less gambling but again what is not gambling in EU ? :)
 
after this VU minig is even more down

Done, moving on!
 
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Before monria get "fixed" tt 90-95%
After Monria get "fix" 70-75%
Now Since Last Two VU 60%
Since last 2 day - 50%

Hey mindark , your turn on Scam='1'


Around 400-1k drop(dual or not) without amp
 
Here are my runs since the update. Also I have not gotten a global since the last update. The only notable claims (if you can call them that) across all of these runs are 1 Medium and 1 Ample.

Code:
[B]Date		Claims	Bombs	Find Rate	TT Value	TT %[/B]
11/10/2013	29	141	20.57%		72.96		51.74%
11/11/2013	26	98	26.53%		63.86		65.16%
11/14/2013	27	120	22.50%		63.41		52.84%
11/18/2013	28	110	25.45%		73.54		66.85%
11/25/2013	31	127	24.41%		83.90		66.06%
12/3/2013	26	119	21.85%		73.02		61.36%
12/6/2013	28	114	24.56%		89.43		78.45%
12/8/2013	30	119	25.21%		85.86		72.15%
12/9/2013	37	130	28.46%		95.97		73.82%
12/11/2013	30	113	26.55%		79.97		70.77%
12/15/2013	27	119	22.69%		70.71		59.42%

My average return for these runs is 65.33% (excluding decay) with a find rate of 24.43%.

I realize this is a small set of runs, only around 1300 PED cycled, but maybe this will be useful to show what a casual / low end miner like me does.

My last global was on 11/4/2013 which is the only thing that has allowed me to keep going so far. I've cycled around 1600 PED since then, and I estimate I have 2-3 runs left before I can't continue without depositing. I will be curious if I global before cycling 2000 PED or not.
 
I find when i dont track profits or losses, I have much more fun. when i track all i focus on is how much it costs me to play lol
 
Before monria get "fixed" tt 90-95%
After Monria get "fix" 70-75%
Now Since Last Two VU 60%
Since last 2 day - 50%

Hey mindark , your turn on Scam='1'


Around 400-1k drop(dual or not) without amp

MA is messing with the rules of tt return especially in mining.

Monria showed (besides the obvious) that the distribution of claims wasn't what I would expect based on past behavior.

Then the release of new minable areas in hell show this again, (before the "apocalypse" I never found mining claims outside the domes, I did found fruits,
after the apocalypse I found 1 claim of garcen, and to my knowledge if was a surprize to others, like the previous experience I lost many PEDs due to all other being NRF and servers being reset shortly after, so I don't know if some different pattern was occuring that could again generate a monria like situation)

In this same VU team loot was also mess up.
(beyond any kind of doubt lower than what of a normal single player was geting).







So it is my belief that loot returns aren't latelly what we would expect.
And we also know that sometimes it isn't in MA best interests either.






(I think they mess up the respawn)
 
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percentage return is too arbitrary. it should say what return % do you experience over 1k (5k or 10k or 20k or whatever) ped tt of probes dropped or something to that effect.
 
I voted for 80+% cause all-time return was holding at ~90-93%, but now I get the feeling its going down, going down hard. So the following are my latest planet-side results(all amped)

Spent(decay,all MU incl.) TTreturn TTreturn% Equipment FindOfInterest

828.21 673.03 81.28% Level5 XI
1449.11 1093.17 75.65% Level5 XV
512.34 337.41 65.90% Level7 --
2192.28 1773.42 80.90% Level5 XII
1439.91 1026.60 71.34% Level5 XII
1440.08 1133.18 78.69% Level5 XIV
578.52 450.58 77.95% Level5 IX
1968.80 1409.75 71.63% Level7 XIII, XIV
1969.56 1486.40 75.49% Level7 XIV

Bad/good/excellent? I haven't tried unamped, but some time ago that didn't made any significant difference.
The second thing is market - I get the feeling that sales are going down with every day. Crafters nerfed? Everyone's nerfed?
What the hell happened to my favorite profession...
 
The past two weeks have been very bad for mining... not much more to say, very low TT returns.
 
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