ZPF Mining Log

[ZPF]

Exploring Caly again

Prologue: Explored Caly unamped again. DSEC prices temporarily plummeted to 150% so I grabbed one, didn't use it much on this run. Going to track TT returns a little more carefully from now on now that things have stabilized.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU)

Run#1 (Calypso)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 391.58 PED
TT return: 270.82 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 396.08 PED
Return after MU: 303.11 PED
Average MU: 112%

Breakdown:
7.8 Cumbriz
1.2 Erd
2.10 Ignis
56.24 Crude
22.80
13.92 Melchi
3.80 Blaus
21.32 Iron
16.49 Cald
6.11 Growth
1.28 Acid
14.40 Iolite
2.70 Langotz
7.20 Duru
3.00 Gazz
2.50 Dianum
6.80 Narc
7.50 Energ
23.02 Lyst
3.45 Typo
3.76 Devils
5.60 Belk
10.35 Alice
10.20 Dianthus
17.28 Megan


Comments: Not the worst run in the world. Average MU was saved by Megan/Dianthus. Was a good day for Megan it seems. TT return was horrible. Hitting a few dead zones (20+ NRFs in a row) didn't help. I had a gut feeling this would be a bad run, just a typical downswing. Glad I didn't amp. The exploration was a disappointment. Found a few nooks with rare resources but nothing special. None of the areas I visited justified an amp, coupled with the lousy TT return I knew this was not a good day for heavy mining activity. I'd say I've covered most of Calypso by now aside from taxed areas... and I'm not impressed. Hit some Devils for the first time in a loooong time at least . Let's hope things look up soon!

Notable Finds: 61 Bombardo

Profit Margin: -93.08 PED

Closing comments: you CALYPSO!!!!


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Prologue: Decided to post my 2nd run here as well, nothing exciting, not worth bumping the thread for.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU)

Run#2 (Calypso)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 206.19 PED
TT return: 141.38 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 208.79 PED
Return after MU: 157.13 PED
Average MU: 111.14%

Comments: Started off at OLA43 (4 as the LA owner wanted some mining feedback. Lousy hit rate and was forced to drop very randomly due to the mob density. Wasn't a good day for MU either. Hit another spot, found tons of Iolite which seemed to be going through a regeneration wave. Nothing was worth amping for today. Tried Shinook a little later, lousy hit rate again. Overall, a boring run. TT returns still in a downswing, but at least I'm staying over 111% Average MU. This means when TT returns do finally stabilize, I will at least break even.

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Totals

Mining

TT input: 597.77
TT output: 412.12
Total input: 604.87
Total output: 460.24

Crafting (Disclaimer: I often recycle mats for further attempts, TT input is just my starting point, also using low qr bps)
TT input: 163.81
TT output: 142.05
Total input: 167.66 (Includes refiner decay)
Total output: 145.05

Hunting(Disclaimer: Input includes Uni ammo created from converting Shrapnel during hunt)
TT input: 914.43
Total Defensive Cost: 16.91
TT output: 507.75
Total input: 931.34
Total output: 525.56

 

[ZPF]

Another Caly run, mostly exploring.

Prologue: Not a bad run.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU), Level 1 Amplifier(L) (101% MU)

Run#3 (Calypso)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 501.60 PED
TT return: 431.45 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 508.18 PED
Return after MU: 498.39 PED
Average MU: 115.51%
Average Tax: ~2.40%

Comments: Decent run. Explored a few new areas on Caly. Zinc is selling decent so popped in some zinc spots to put a dent in my zinc mission (and then quickly decided this was a horrible idea ). Hit a few different taxed areas in Amethera, nothing spectacular, most taxed areas don't seem worth it. But a select few are worth checking out occasionally.

Notable Finds: Just a small global.

Profit Margin: -9.79 PED

Closing comments: TT returns still far from stabilized. Average MU turned out nice enough to offset the taxes, so overall I can't complain. I need to start chasing more MU if I want to profit instead of just break even. Tempted to stay on Caly out of laziness, but will most likely move to Ark soon.

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Totals (Run#1-#3)

Mining

TT input: 1099.37
TT output: 843.57
Total input: 1113.05
Total output: 958.63

 

[ZPF]

Beautiful Sunny Arkadia !

Prologue: Was a swingy run. Lots of NRFs, coupled with short bursts of 80-100% hit rate. Average MU was sketchy, but managed to salvage it.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU), Level 1 Amplifier(L) (101% MU), Level 5 Amplifier(L) (102.5), D Class Amplifier(L)(105.62%)

Run#4 (Arkadia)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 889.09 PED
TT return: 692.12 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 908.64 PED
Return after MU: 822.45 PED
Average MU: 118.31%

Comments: Had a fun time on Ark. Hit everything I wanted to. Ignisium, Wenrex, Typo, Gazz, and more. Not much Dianthus unfortunately. I did make some silly mistakes and double bomb in areas I shouldn't have in an attempt to speed up the recovery of TT returns. Looks like I failed!

Notable Finds: Hit a nice (X) Considerable unamped on Enmatter. Let's hope I didn't waste my multiplier for the month

Profit Margin: -86.19 PED

Closing comments: TT returns STILL in a downswing. No globals on this run. Let's hope the lords of 90% return have not yet forsaken me

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Totals (Run#1-#4)

Mining

TT input: 1988.46
TT output: 1538.69 (77.38%)
Total input: 2021.69
Total output: 1781.08 (88.1%)

 

[Vi Bitfury]

Comments: Had a fun time on Ark. Hit everything I wanted to. Ignisium, Wenrex, Typo, Gazz, and more. Not much Dianthus unfortunately. I did make some silly mistakes and double bomb in areas I shouldn't have in an attempt to speed up the recovery of TT returns. Looks like I failed!

Hey ZPF, glad you took the trip to mine elsewhere (sometimes it's good to change the scenery every once in a while), and wanted to know if you've been sticking to your usual probe dropping methods or if you were able to incorporate some of the things we went over?

All the best,
Vi

 

[ZPF]

Comments: Had a fun time on Ark. Hit everything I wanted to. Ignisium, Wenrex, Typo, Gazz, and more. Not much Dianthus unfortunately. I did make some silly mistakes and double bomb in areas I shouldn't have in an attempt to speed up the recovery of TT returns. Looks like I failed!

Hey ZPF, glad you took the trip to mine elsewhere (sometimes it's good to change the scenery every once in a while), and wanted to know if you've been sticking to your usual probe dropping methods or if you were able to incorporate some of the things we went over?

All the best,
Vi

Not yet! These TT returns have been too wacky right now... Not ready to risk anything new. Once my PED card recovers I'll be doing a lot of unamped runs, so that would be the best time to try your method

 

[ZPF]

Prologue: Long run on Caly. TT returns swung up towards the beginning of the run (1 HOF 1 Global), then slowly swung back down. There was another run before this on Ark, but some technical issues prevented me from tracking it properly. Unfortunately this means my overall TT return could be + or - ~100 PED and average MU is likely a bit higher.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU), Level 7 Amplifier(L) (105% MU), Level 5 Amplifier(L) (102.5)

Run#5 (Calypso)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 2033.61 PED
TT return: 1956.99 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 2078.02 PED
Return after MU: 2141.30 PED
Average MU: 109.42%
Average Tax: ~2.00%
Enhancers Broken(Depth): Lv I (x6), Lv2 (x2), Lv3 (x1)
Enhancer MU: ~ 156%
(Enhancer costs are not included in any of the above stats)

Breakdown:
27.00 Gold
20.30 Ignis
5.00 Kanerium
10.92 Lumis
24.48 Megan
19.20 Energized
13.20 Redulite
59.40 Terrudite
17.16 Solis
30.00 Valurite
8.40 Dianthus
28.50 Gazz
17.28 Azur
23.10 Typo
186.88 Narc
5.96 Himi
76.80 Duru
17.76 Frig
26.65 Niks
44.40 Azz
7.50 Mager
22.88 Lanor
10.08 Henren
19.50 Angelic
9.92 Acid
64.60 Alferix
26.95 Alice
87.50 Dianum
12.50 Zinc
76.50 Cald
87.84 Belk
15.00 Adom
60.32 Blaus
113.99 Crude
24.48 Copper
36.40 Iolite
16.82 Melchi
15.08 Ares
67.60 Erd
36.40 Garcen
51.00 Binary
67.60 Iron
98.70 Cumbriz
7.05 Growth
26.13 Cave
124.64 Lyta
101.62 Lyst
6.00 Erion

Comments: Overall a terrible run. Started off strong with decent MU and great TT returns. Slowly started making worse and worse decisions, amping in areas that were giving me TT trash, exploring too many new taxed areas, etc. Some of my favorite spots seemed to only have lyst and oil. Horrible hit rates in some new areas. Things and not looking too good.

Notable Finds: Narc HOF on OLA 43 (Mining event underway, great place to check out!), Small Cald Global

Profit Margin: +63.28 PED

Closing comments: Please Mindark

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Totals (Run#1-#5)

Mining

TT input: 4022.07
TT output: 3495.68 (86.91%)
Total input: 4099.71
Total output: 3922.38 (95.67%)

Keep in mind actual overall TT return is possibly a bit higher/lower and average MU a bit higher due to the run I was unable to track.

 

[Nopeunintended]

"Some of my favorite spots seemed to only have lyst and oil" --> *Nervous laughter*

Yeah it feels bad getting TT food finds with a terrible hit rate to boot. Worse still when you get showered in swirlies planetside and the run still doesn't end too hot. Hopefully this is all just a buildup to the multiplier at the end of the tunnel
Best of luck!

 

[Billy Jean Ruby]

"Some of my favorite spots seemed to only have lyst and oil" --> *Nervous laughter*

Yeah it feels bad getting TT food finds with a terrible hit rate to boot. Worse still when you get showered in swirlies planetside and the run still doesn't end too hot. Hopefully this is all just a buildup to the multiplier at the end of the tunnel
Best of luck!

TT food?

well if your think your mining finds are TT food, I'm willingly to relieve ya from that unpleasant weight anytime

 

[ZPF]

TT food?

well if your think your mining finds are TT food, I'm willingly to relieve ya from that unpleasant weight anytime

Lol I don't mean I actually TT them, that's just what I call anything that's 101-103% MU

Ok ok, sometimes I do TT them... I need PED to mine!

 

[ZPF]

A few runs

Prologue: Ugh.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (153% MU), Level 7 Amplifier(L) (105% MU)

Run#6 (Rocktropia)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 1412.28 PED
TT return: 985.85 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 1465.65 PED
Return after MU: 1104.05 PED
Average MU: 112%

Comments: Well. Never cycling 7s on Rocktropia again. Simply unsustainable unless you can hit an alternative global/hof.

Notable Finds: Absolutely nothing.

Run#7 (Calypso)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 332.8 PED
TT return: 212.40 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 337.5 PED
Return after MU: 237.51 PED
Average MU: 111.82%
Enhancers Broke: 1x Depth Lv1 (150% MU)

Comments: Quick Caly run. Got frustrated/tired decided to end it and head to Arkadia.

Notable Finds: Nada

Closing comments: I need to explore Caly more and find some decent spots. This means not leaving an area after a few bad hits. But staying and examining long term distribution at various depths.


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Totals (Run#1-#7)

Mining

TT input: 5767.15
TT output: 4693.93 (81.39%)
Total input: 5902.86
Total output: 5263.94 (89.17%)

Keep in mind actual overall TT return is possibly a bit higher/lower [+-80-100 PED] and average MU a bit higher due to the run I was unable to track.

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Indoor Mining

Tools used: DSEC L30(L) (153% MU), Level 7 Amplifier(L) (105% MU), D Class(L) (105.62% MU)

Run#1 (HELL)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 642.27 PED
TT return: 606.86 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 669.41 PED
Return after MU: 673.60 PED
Average MU: 111%
Tax: 2.5%

Run#2 (FOMA)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 650.63 PED
TT return: 413 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 657 PED
Return after MU: 440 PED
Average MU: 106.63%
Tax: 5.5%

Comments: Zzzzzz.. Doesn't look like indoor mining will ever pay me back for losses, don't know why I keep going back.

Indoor Stats:
(Currently About 700 PED short of 90% return indoors in total before these runs, but only bothered to start tracking my last two short runs)

TT input: 1292.90
TT output: 1019.86
Total input: 1326.41
Total output: 1113.60

 

[ZPF]

Getting so lazy with this log

Prologue: Meh.

Tools used: Emine FS (117% MU), DSEC L30(L) (150% MU), Level 5 Amplifier(L) (102.5% MU)

Run#8 (Arkadia)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 1635.36 PED
TT return: 1388.66 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 1667.57 PED
Return after MU: 1539.96 PED
Average MU: 110.89%
Enhancers Broken: 2 Level II Depth Enhancer

Comments: Desperately probing Ark for a solid profitable area. Nothing above 115% average MU seems possible over the long term in the current market. Will explore a bit more unamped and see if MU improves before I give up on Ark.

Run#9 (RT)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 794.80 PED
TT return: 644.14 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 813.16 PED
Return after MU: 759.78 PED
Average MU: 117.95%

Comments: Not a horrible run. Compensates for my last disaster on Rocktropia I suppose.

Run#10 (RT)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 161.13 PED
TT return: 173.04 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 163.55 PED
Return after MU: 192.85 PED
Average MU: 111.82%

Comments: At the end of the run I realized I was using the wrong finder. Well then.

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Totals (Run#1-#10)

Planetside Mining

TT input: 8358.44
TT output: 6899.77 (82.54%)
Total input: 8547.14
Total output: 7756.53 (92.80%)

Keep in mind actual overall TT return is possibly a bit higher/lower [+-80-100 PED] and average MU a bit higher due to the run I was unable to track.

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Indoor Mining

Tools used: DSEC L30(L) (150% MU), Level 5 Amplifier(L) (102.5% MU), D Class(L) (105.62% MU), Level 13 (L) 120% (JUST ONE)

Run#1 (HELL)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 1164.18 PED
TT return: 844.54 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 1250 PED
Return after MU: 894.58 PED
Average MU: WhoCares%
Tax: 2.5%

Run#2 (HELL)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 124.41 PED
TT return: 59.58 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 125.68 PED
Return after MU: 65.96 PED
Tax: 2.5%

Comments: No. No more HELL. MUST. LEAVE. RT.

Indoor Stats:
(Currently About 700 PED short of 90% return indoors in total before these runs, but only bothered to start tracking recently)

TT input: 2581.49
TT output: 1923.98
Total input: 2702.09
Total output: 2074.14

Comments: Sad.

 

[ZPF]

Might be time for a break !

Prologue: After a 2 hour hunt in Cat 2 Golden Week (50% TT return even with Easter Egg ), decided to drop a couple Terra Amps 6s on Ark/AU.

Run#11 (Ark/AU)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 876.75 PED
(175 PED of probes/amp was spent Planetside, guess I shoulda stayed there )
TT return: 478.72 PED (198.7 PED Planetside, the rest AU)
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 988.32 PED
Return after MU: 619.32 PED
Average MU: 125% (Ironically around the exact # needed to break even w/ Terra 6)
Enhancers Broken: 1x Range IV
Avg Tax: ~4%

Comments: Planetside was treating me well. Hunting losses had continued to mount up. I guess I was "feeling lucky", so decided to drop the rest of my amps in AU. After about 700 PED worth of drops, I found 3 claims . Bleh. I need a break. The weather's finally nice out

Run#12 (AU)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 314.08 PED
TT return: 140.46 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 318.36 PED
Return after MU: 141.86 PED
Average MU: 101%
Avg Tax: 5%

Comments: Last ditch effort, 100 unamped drops in AU to see if I could hit anything. Nope.


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Totals (Run#1-#12)

Planetside Mining

TT input: 8534.35
TT output: 7098.47
Total input: 8741.87
Total output: 8005.11

Indoor Stats:
(Currently About 700 PED short of 90% return indoors before these runs, but only bothered to start tracking recently)

TT input: 3282.33
TT output: 2222.32
Total input: 3477.36
Total output: 2444.74

Hunting Stats (Roughly 500 PED cycled in AU so far, @ 5% Tax, also need to stop hunting mobs above my bankroll)

TT input: 2823.45
Total Defensive Cost: 35.42
TT output: 1805.72
Total output: 1856.63

 

[ZPF]

Prologue: Long NRF streaks, plenty of crude oil, good ol' Caly!

Run#13 (Caly)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 530.44 PED
TT return: 319.19 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 554.86 PED
Return after MU: 345.88 PED
Average MU: 108.36%
Enhancers Broken: 3x Depth II
Avg Tax: ~1.5%

Comments: TT returns continue to plummet

 

[Antrace]

Hello,
i read very interested your mining log, because i would start to do some mining, but....

i'm wondering how a noob miner (like me) can do better if an experienced like you can't even have a good return (you are at 90% with mu).

I thank you very much for this log, because it is a trustable paper.

GL for next runs

 

[ZPF]

Hello,
i read very interested your mining log, because i would start to do some mining, but....

i'm wondering how a noob miner (like me) can do better if an experienced like you can't even have a good return (you are at 90% with mu).

I thank you very much for this log, because it is a trustable paper.

GL for next runs

Hey thanks for your comment. If you flip a few pages back you'll see that I hit two HOFs (Caldorite and Quil Sap) which brought me up after a long period of bad TT returns. I have good faith in 90% returns on the long term. But downswings can be very brutal in mining so you must be prepared for long periods of losses.

A few weeks of bad returns is meaningless, you have to look at your monthly (or even yearly) stats to get a reliable picture of your overall returns.

If you're new to mining, I advise you to only mine unamped, and focus on chasing maximum markup. Mining amps are not worth it unless you can confidently expect at least 115% MU. Since most HOFs/Globals are TT trash, it's very hard to achieve this MU in most areas unless you know exactly what you're looking for.

These days mining is very similar to crafting in that you have to keep a close eye on market movements if you want to make profit. For example Zinc was selling for 107-108%, which made mining the desert in Arkadia (Zinc, Gazz, Wenrex, Hebredite) more profitable.

But the Arkadia auction is tricky. Wenrex Daily MU currently says 197%, but the highest order for Wenrex is 170% and the lowest seller buyout is 180%. The auction on Ark is very slow and inconsistent, often times you will be undercut several times by other desperate miners. It's a very fragile and competitive market due to the lack of crafting activity and the abundance of gamblers in AU crashing prices.

For maximum profit you have to be willing to hold on to your loot and sell only during price spikes. A month ago you were lucky to get 105% for Lyst. With Golden Week going on (reduced mining activity), Lyst is currently selling strong at 108%. The markups I display in my log are based on what the auction was offering at that current moment in time; but I don't always sell immediately, so profits can be higher or lower than what you're reading in these logs depending on market swings.

Keep an eye on the log, I think we're overdue for an upswing pretty soon .

 

[ZPF]

RT

Prologue: Lv5s on RT

Run#14 (RT)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 797.84 PED
TT return: 584.80 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 817.42 PED
Return after MU: 704.26 PED
Average MU: 120.42%

Comments: Hit a small alternative HOF a few min after landing on RT, the rest of the run was horrible. Zinc prices are down to 104% but luckily didn't hit much Zinc. The HOF gave a huge boost to avg MU, but tons of NRFs brought down overall TT return significantly. Should have a bigger HOF coming soon... I hope

 

[ZPF]

Finally in the green :/

Prologue:

Run#15

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 3463.18 PED
TT return: 3011.49 PED (86.95%)
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 3543.96 PED
Return after MU: 3732.37 PED
Average MU: 123.93%

Comments: Hit a 418 PED Ignisium HoF on this run which helped a lot with average MU. Finally a little bit of profit. Feels good I guess. Wonder how long this TT return curse will last though

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Totals (Run#1-#15)

Planetside Mining

TT input: 13325.81
TT output: 11013.95 (82.65%)
Total input: 13658.11
Total output: 12787.62 (93.62%)
Avg MU: 116.10%

 

[ZPF]

..................

Prologue:

Run#16 (Level 5 amps @ 103%)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 3973.97 PED
TT return: 3537.42 PED (89.01%)
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 4061.31 PED
Return after MU: 4169.29 PED
Average MU: 117.86%

Misc Costs:
Refiner Decay: 6.35 PED
Travel costs (Including Warp+Tele back to Caly): 20 PED
Sleipnir Fuel Cost: 0.50 PED
Auction Fees: ~36.00 PED
Total: 62.85 PED

Profit/Loss: +45.13 PED

Comments: Decided to include all auxillary fees this time, so you can all get an idea of what a typical run looks like once all is said and done. Pretty hilarious. For ~14 hours of mining I take home a profit of 45.13 PED. There are people in my soc that make 200 PED/wk looking for fruit. Maybe I'll join them

Notable Finds: One small global and one small TT trash HOF

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Planetside Mining (Totals (Run#1-#16))

TT input: 17299.78
TT output: 14551.37 (84.11%)
Total input: 17719.42 (This does not include Misc Costs, only MU)
Total output: 16956.91 (95.69%)
Avg MU: 116.53%

 

[ZPF]

Time to wipe the slate clean.

Prologue: Oh, my... well... hello there!

Run#17 (Unamped)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 496.41 PED
TT return: 425.03 PED (85.62%)
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 507.86 PED
Return after MU: 504.26 PED
Average MU: 118.64%

Run#18 (Lv 5 @ 102%)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 184.98 PED
TT return: 2518.48 PED
Decay on equipping lucky mining hat: 0.02 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay, hat decay): 187.40 PED + ~20 PED in Drill Decay
Return after MU: ~ 2560 PED
Average MU: Low.

Notable Finds: 2.4k Force Nexus HOF

Comments: Well there it is folks! And some of you doubted me! I knew this was coming all along!
Wish it had been on something with MU, but I guess we can't have it all. Returns have stabilized so going to wipe the tracking clean and start at 0. Instead of a welcome back HOF, I guess this is my "thanks for not leaving HOF"! But in all seriousness... if there's one lesson to take away here it's that lucky mining hats actually work. Also constant turnover will yield stable results. Just focus on MU and don't worry about sub-par TT returns. Focus on what you CAN control.

P.S Shout out to my ex-mentor for lending me his Adjusted Drill! Saved me from 2-3 extra hours of misery.

 

[SpeedMetalVai]

Grats on the hof!!

 

[ZPF]

Grats on the hof!!

Thanks Speed, if it was twice the size I would be making you an offer on that drill, feel naked without it now

 

[kingofaces]

Just wait until you can get an Improved instead of Adjusted. I don't get as much time to do other things while waiting to pull up claims anymore.

I don't think it's ever going to leave my inventory unless I mine unamped where there's mostly high TT value resources, but they both sure make pulling oil and lyst much more bearable.

 

[ZPF]

Just wait until you can get an Improved instead of Adjusted. I don't get as much time to do other things while waiting to pull up claims anymore.

I don't think it's ever going to leave my inventory unless I mine unamped where there's mostly high TT value resources, but they both sure make pulling oil and lyst much more bearable.

Starting to feel what you mean...

Was honestly tempted to grab a RR Gold Rush and tier it up for speed enhancers and say screw eco. It's -almost- worth it for the improved cycling speed. Might be worth it... Bleh. These decisions suck.

 

[Billy Jean Ruby]

at last I see you get what you deserve Gratz for the HoF and thanks for giving me back some hope! I'm putting out my notes and starting plan for my next mining destination

 

[ZPF]

Post HOF returns are the best!

Prologue: Did some exploring, found a certain spot that has been crashing the price of a certain 'rare' ore then some heavy grinding for some MU.

Run#19 (Post Hofmatic Loot Disorder?)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 4050.09 PED
TT return: 3056.11 PED (75.45%)
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 4120.77 PED
Return after MU: 3630.13 PED
Average MU: 118.78%

Notable Finds: 2.00 PED Tridenite Ore

Comments: For most of this run I was at ~4 ped/drop (Trid was found unamped). Did nearly 1k drops and ended up with horrible TT return. From the results of my last cycle, the sweet spot for stable returns appears to be roughly 5k drops. I believe 2k drops can sometimes be enough, but with my luck I think we have a long way to go At least we found Tridenite for the first time But unfortunately hit 0 multipliers. Nothing above a IX (which is the average deposit size @ 4 ped/drop. 1000 Drops with 0 multipliers. Wonder if that's some kind of record.

 

[Antrace]

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Decay on equipping lucky mining hat: 0.02 PED.....
lucky mining hats actually work. Also constant turnover will yield stable results. ...
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this.. i need this hat

Congratulations

 

[ZPF]

this.. i need this hat

Congratulations

Best advice I can offer you...

 

[ZPF]

Prologue: Still on an upswing.

Run#20 (HoF)

TT Cost (Probes+Amp Decay+Finder Decay): 562.73 PED
TT return: 1187.95 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 579.06 PED
Return after MU: ~1300 PED

Comments: Hit a ~730 PED HOF. Decided to mix these results into my last cycle and post the final results below. The new cycle's logging will start after this post.

Equipment Upgrade: Adjusted Excavator

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Planetside Mining (Totals (Run#1-#20))

TT input: 22593.99
TT output: 21738.94 (96.21%)
Total input: 23134.51 (This does not include Auction/refiner, only MU/Drill)
Total output: 24951.3 (107.85%)
Avg MU: 114.77%

P/L: +1816.79 after MU

Indoor Stats:

TT input: 3782.33
TT output: 2222.32
Total input: 3977.36
Total output: 2444.74

Hunting Stats

TT input: 2823.45
Total Defensive Cost: 35.42
TT output: 1805.72
Total output: 1856.63

Overall TT return (all activities)

Input: 29199.77
Output: 25766.98 (88.24%)

 

[ZPF]

Some light hunting/mining/crafting on Arkadia

Prologue: Logs are purged. Starting from scratch now. Probably won't be amping till the economy bounces back. Less than 700 total Listings on Caly auction right now.

Run#1 (Arkadia - Unamped)

TT Cost (Probes+Finder Decay): 305.26 PED
TT return: 220.62 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 306.84 PED
Return after MU: 260.26 PED
Enhancers: Broke ~3 Depth Enhancers of various sizes

Breakdown:

Ores/Enmat
5.68 Star Particle
2.26 Belkar
7.20 Zinc
2.5 Garcen
5.25 Cumbriz
5.80 Erion
8.64 Gang
4.42 Edres
4.40 Gorbek
0.57 Lyta
0.94 Growth
6.48 Florican
3.2 Bodai
1.36 Wenrex
10.78 Telfium
6.60 Adomasite
1.25 Magerian
4.65 Typo
2.88 Azur
5.25 Gazz
5.50 Yuler
2.70 Frakite
1.41 Devils
1.50 Rugaritz (Valuated @ 1350%)

Average MU: 136.85%

Treasures
25.00 Songkra
3.32 Fossil
12.60 Chemset
3.90 Mosquito
20.10 Bronze
16.50 Aarkan
35.55 Vedacore
2.39 Shagadi Small Vase
x2 Treasure Map 2
x1 Treasure Map 6
x1 Treasure Map 7

Average MU: ~102%

Comments: Ahh I forgot the beauty of unamped mining! Haven't posted mineral breakdown in a while. Yes that's right, my first Rugaritz Going to slow down with the log for a while as the economy is taking a nosedive. Pre-migration sucks - prices seem to be crashing, demand at an all time low. Will not be updating this log much until my auctions are actually selling.

Also did a short indoor run in AU along with some Tiarak hunting, stats posted below. And crafted some enhancers for my new drill -Big thanks to Stevie for giving me a more than fair price!

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As of 5/22/2016

Planetside Mining

TT input: 305.26
TT output: 220.62
Total input: 306.84
Total output: 260.26
Avg MU: 117.96%

Indoor Stats:

TT input: 203.22
TT output: 147.06
Total input: 204.61
Total output: 168.31
Avg MU: 114.44%

Hunting Stats

TT input: 63.13
TT output: 52.19
Total Defensive Cost: 1.98
Total input: 65.11
Total output: 54.75
Avg MU: ~105%

Crafting Stats
TT input: 29.60
TT output: 19.41
Total input: 30.56
Total output: 20.30

 

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zzzzzz

Prologue: Market is still weak. Prices/Sales still dropping on almost everything.

Run#2 (Arkadia - Unamped)

TT Cost (Probes+Finder Decay): 299.06 PED
TT return: 260.66 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 302.95 PED
Return after MU: 293.85 PED
Avg MU: 112.73%
Enhancers: Broke 2 Depth Enhancers

Breakdown:

1.40 Garcen
20.64 Gang
3.00 Platinum
2.52 Lumis
1.70 Alice
2.70 Hydro
9.50 Yuler
6.40 Belk
10.65 Cumb
2.47 Lyta
5.72 Edres
4.80 Erion
2.64 Star
1.38 Crude
2.38 Cald
3.16 Ospra
5.72 Blaus
11.00 Hebred
8.96 Acid
53.60 Zinc
2.60 Zulax
6.45 Typo
5.46 Solis
4.80 Adom
13.44 Telf
10.53 Florican
3.50 Mager
2.35 Devils
4.40 Redul
8.94 Somin
5.88 Frig
2.40 Energized
13.25 Gazz
16.32 Azur


Comments: Well I dug myself into a hole. Got a ton of random ores/enmats in teeny tiny stacks. Nowwww I remember why I hate unamped mining Did a bit more crafting and hunting as well, all stats updated below.

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As of 5/22/2016

Planetside Mining

TT input: 604.32
TT output: 481.28
Total input: 609.79
Total output: 554.11
Avg MU: 115.13%

Indoor Stats:

TT input: 203.22
TT output: 147.06
Total input: 204.61
Total output: 168.31
Avg MU: 114.44%

Hunting Stats

TT input: 231.82
TT output: 187.18
Total Defensive Cost: 6.11
Total input: 237.93
Total output: 199.20
Avg MU: ~106.42%

Crafting Stats
TT input: 58.04
TT output: 43.07
Total input: 60.26
Total output: 48.96

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Part 2: Didn't feel like bumping the thread.

Prologue:

Run#3 (Arkadia - amped)

TT Cost (Probes+Finder Decay): 791.76 PED
TT return: 568.78 PED
Cost(with MU, Drill decay): 805.42 PED
Return after MU: 643.39 PED
Avg MU: 113%

Comments: Seems a lot of people have been reporting unusually horrible TT return. But it's too early to judge yet. Average MU turned out lousy since it was a short run. Some areas require prolonged grinding before you can really get a sense of the average MU. Unfortunately have too much PED tied up in auctions atm :/

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As of 5/22/2016

Planetside Mining

TT input: 1396.08
TT output: 1050.06
Total input: 1415.21
Total output: 1197.50
Avg MU: 114.04%