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Subscribing to some interesting tests.
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run 08
march 31st.
pro stands at start:
Surveyor Mining 38.74
Driller Mining 36.64
Prospector Mining 27.18
Miner Mining 24.85
ore input: 504
matter input: 168
ore output: 291 (roi=0.58)
matter output: 346 (roi=2.06)
total roi = 0.94
0% tax
march 31st.
pro stands at start:
Surveyor Mining 38.74
Driller Mining 36.64
Prospector Mining 27.18
Miner Mining 24.85
ore input: 504
matter input: 168
ore output: 291 (roi=0.58)
matter output: 346 (roi=2.06)
total roi = 0.94
0% tax
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 time global
993 3 16:45
766 3
488 9
1022 2
864 5
668 4
856 7
905 4
860 5
498 9
794 5
932 4
313 9
1005 5
1003 3
875 3
573 5
1059 5
957 3
766 3 17:15
719 5
956 5
969 3
713 5
604 8
700 5
641 8
943 3
1007 5
963 3
982 5 17:45
574 5
727 15 156
437 8
557 9
511 8
760 5
917 5
359 8
513 8
877 4
986 2
895 4
911 5
761 5
1105 5 18:15
1001 3
348 8
858 5
892 5
766 11
783 5
894 3
984 5
1203 4
889 3
481 5
853 3
492 8
891 5
887 2
890 5
497 5 18:45
934 4
400 5
536 5
910 3
750 8
551 5
490 5
547 8
457 5
436 5
949 12
482 12
992 3
519 8
650 8
749 5
345 5
710 8
476 5
395 8
507 5
457 4
504 8
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Lol, it took me ages to work out ROI = return on investment 
Good luck with your blog
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steffel
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split run. april 5th & 6th.
pro stands at start:
Surveyor Mining 38.77
Driller Mining 36.66
Prospector Mining 27.28
Miner Mining 24.92
ore input: 504
matter input: 168
ore output: 332 (roi=0.66)
matter output: 150 (roi=0.89)
total roi = 0.71
0% tax
again, matter > ore, third time in a row now. looks like i successfully amped ore during matter peak
or might amping ore result in improved matter performance? not decided yet if i do one more run with oa103 & ma102 or just do both amps 102 next.
40ped argo half way. total hunting turnover maybe 50-80ped in 9 runs.
blog so far:
ore input*: 2682
ore output: 2421
ore roi*: 0.90
ore balance*: -261
matter input*: 1674
matter output: 1593
matter roi*: 0.95
matter balance*: -81
total roi**: 0.91
total balance**: -412
*excl. finder decay.
** incl. finder decay.
pro stands at start:
Surveyor Mining 38.77
Driller Mining 36.66
Prospector Mining 27.28
Miner Mining 24.92
ore input: 504
matter input: 168
ore output: 332 (roi=0.66)
matter output: 150 (roi=0.89)
total roi = 0.71
0% tax
again, matter > ore, third time in a row now. looks like i successfully amped ore during matter peak
or might amping ore result in improved matter performance? not decided yet if i do one more run with oa103 & ma102 or just do both amps 102 next.40ped argo half way. total hunting turnover maybe 50-80ped in 9 runs.
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 m8 comment time global
395 12 16:00 05.04.2010
867 6
675 8
370 9
886 5
542 5
470 8
482 5
849 9
692 5
1024 5
956 5
925 5
809 9
292 5
478 5
587 3
974 4 16:30
483 8
477 8
725 8
346 5
615 5
971 3
1004 5
1010 5
811 3
1075 5
939 4
954 3
617 7
850 5 40 ped argo
805 3 17:00
430 5
894 6
303 5
459 7
1109 5
444 6
575 8
1118 5
462 8
567 9
859 5
376 7
887 5
850 5
374 5
434 8 break 17:30
599 5 vu 11.0 16:30 06.04.2010
915 5
545 9
981 3
590 7
760 3
530 5
643 4
779 4
691 3
368 8
564 8
1025 3
719 5
978 3
577 5
1001 5
1003 4
766 5
834 3
562 5
777 3
503 5 17:00
566 8
898 5
794 3
383 8
463 9
250 5
363 7
620 8
708 6
642 5
455 5
733 3
357 5
511 4
478 5
874 4
783 5
713 4
934 3blog so far:
ore input*: 2682
ore output: 2421
ore roi*: 0.90
ore balance*: -261
matter input*: 1674
matter output: 1593
matter roi*: 0.95
matter balance*: -81
total roi**: 0.91
total balance**: -412
*excl. finder decay.
** incl. finder decay.
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steffel
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run10
april 7th.
sorry no skills this time. changing slowly anyway.
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 557 (roi=1.42)
matter output: 619 (roi=3.16)
total roi = 1.97
0% tax
gone with 102 ore & matter amps this time.
april 7th.
sorry no skills this time. changing slowly anyway.
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 557 (roi=1.42)
matter output: 619 (roi=3.16)
total roi = 1.97
0% tax
gone with 102 ore & matter amps this time.
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 m8 comment time global
532 4 16:30 07.04.2010
376 7
618 8
450 7
1043 3
897 8
784 4
589 8
861 5
738 5
576 4
768 3
472 4
927 5
1091 5
839 2
887 5
485 7
770 5
677 3 17:00
675 7
420 4
625 4
513 8
515 4
833 5
658 3
408 15 140
458 4
787 3
384 4
555 4
721 3 17:30
727 3
659 10
600 4
475 8
885 3
788 9
466 18 466
797 12 18:00
502 4
655 4
387 4
1000 5
302 4
331 15 179
831 9
629 5
833 3 18:30
789 5
1114 4
903 3
417 8
520 4
457 6
464 7
782 3
862 3
955 3
797 2
288 4
455 6
573 6
422 4
702 3 19:00
799 4
375 7
675 6
1159 3
1177 5
748 5
380 4
491 8
770 10
1075 3
656 3
586 11
675 8
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thx for your input, at lvl 25 i'd expect to have oa103 maxed. i've used ma107 at lvl 25 without much problems. hit rate seems to not be a problem at all, claim sizes rule the return. probably i will stay with oa102 from now on.
So have you gotten to any conclusion to your h0 and h4 hypothesis yet?
errm errm data is quite small yet, variance is high errm errm
. while matter is a bit in the lead for the blog i'd say pro stand does not seem to affect tt return (h1&h1a). returns bump up and down in the short run, need plenty runs to compare averages...
it feels like amping can affect return rate. trade terminal offers 1 ore drop @ costs of 2 matter clicks, every amp generation follows ore = 2x matter costs. blog's first setup was ore costs = 1x matter costs, and ore was most times ahead. 2nd setup was ore = 3x matter and matter was ahead. maybe coincidence and it showed ore and matter cycle regardless of amps. or maybe leaving the standard cost ratio ore:matter=1:0.5 results in sucky returns on one side and better returns on the other side, while total stays <100% ofc.
there are days i find loads of one ressource (h4) and times with packs of above average claims (h4a). tricky part is to actually find a rule and exploit it
for the next runs i try to keep gear constant - looks like 102 amps do work-, skills are quite constant anyway, so two possible factors are kinda disabled.
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run11
split run april 8th / 9th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 462 (roi=1.18)
matter output: 146 (roi=0.74)
total roi = 1.02
0% tax
found a gold claim there for the first time, didn't add it with an own row since it may be just spread from neighbour area.
split run april 8th / 9th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 462 (roi=1.18)
matter output: 146 (roi=0.74)
total roi = 1.02
0% tax
found a gold claim there for the first time, didn't add it with an own row since it may be just spread from neighbour area.
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 comment time global
963 3 16:00 08.04.2010
555 8
494 7
479 7
950 9
938 8
816 5
442 6
804 3
805 4
850 3
855 3
668 13 71
452 10
938 2
956 5
534 11 16:30
449 4
862 3
777 3
911 5
664 5
625 4
349 4
643 6
937 4
765 4
925 5
505 7
851 3 17:00
599 5
554 6
1121 3
388 6
352 7
824 3 17:30
553 6 13:45 09.04.2010
736 3
431 8
846 3
369 4
635 4
671 4
1012 3
696 4
521 4
739 3
936 3
461 4
543 10
276 4
711 6
856 12
426 3
416 4
758 5
884 3 14:15
1065 4
764 4
1026 4
914 3
467 4
900 4
596 8
505 8
926 6
1105 5
750 5 gold
530 6
776 3
861 3
465 7
474 7
526 4 14:45
741 3
446 6
962 3
527 4
1331 4
890 4
667 4
560 15 151
760 5
638 5
556 4
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..there are days i find loads of one ressource (h4) and times with packs of above average claims (h4a). tricky part is to actually find a rule and exploit it
If you want to test if ore and enmatter loot are related, then you should choose a different approach. One possibility would be to force a global on one resource, then switch over to the other one doing a predefined number of drops switching back thereafter. For instance, you can start with ore mining till you do get a global. Thereafter you switch over to enmatter doing 100 drops, then switch back to ore and restart the whole thing.
If ore and enmatter loot are related then you should get more globals with ore mining. Please do consider that enmatter loot is half of ore loot and hence loot above 25 PED counts as a global for an enmatter find.
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falkao, i think it makes more sense to drop both simultanous and watch for signals that might indicate upcoming claim sizes. if returns ping pong or something...
doing only one type and switching professions after global is hard, since i don't know what to expect after a global. sometimes an above average follows shortly after, sometimes claims are average sized.
i naturally do get more globals with ore atm. XI+ in enmatter could be translated to an ore global, yea.
doing only one type and switching professions after global is hard, since i don't know what to expect after a global. sometimes an above average follows shortly after, sometimes claims are average sized.
i naturally do get more globals with ore atm. XI+ in enmatter could be translated to an ore global, yea.
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In biasing the set doing only one prof till global, should result in some biased data in the other profession. If not, then both are not related. If you do both professions simultaneously, you’ll never know what’s behind as variance is very large.
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run 12 + 13
april 10th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 238 (roi=0.61)
matter output: 130 (roi=0.66)
total roi = 0.62
0% tax
april 11th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 186(roi=0.47)
matter output: 134 (roi=0.68)
total roi = 0.54
0% tax
total crap runs. low hitrate and small claims. should do eighter cnd or 109 amps next runs i guess
logging off and taking a break did not really help.
april 10th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 238 (roi=0.61)
matter output: 130 (roi=0.66)
total roi = 0.62
0% tax
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 o10 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 comment time
461 4 09:45 10.04.2010
694 4
576 6
933 9
388 4
517 6
612 3
809 5
574 4 10:15
569 7
845 3
950 3
591 7
600 4
635 3
733 10
573 7
573 4
580 4
796 4
801 3
295 3
1121 3
817 3
709 5
722 4 break 10:45
477 6 13:15
922 3
941 3
355 7
639 7
798 5
685 9
412 4
528 6
749 5
746 6
537 4
1100 5
511 6
529 8
704 3 13:45
870 3
856 7
878 3
538 7
962 3
386 5
634 4
553 7
465 6
747 3
792 5
481 4
449 6
865 3
619 6
723 3
783 3
258 6 14:15
913 4
450 7
528 5
854 5
874 4
894 4
989 5
967 4 break 14:45
877 5 16:15
948 4
744 2
811 5
435 6
661 3
773 9
438 8
879 5
584 4
654 4 16:45
335 6
440 7
691 8
585 8
549 7
787 3
701 5
760 3
598 7april 11th
ore input: 392
matter input: 196
ore output: 186(roi=0.47)
matter output: 134 (roi=0.68)
total roi = 0.54
0% tax
Code:
depth o1 o2 o3 o4 o5 o8 m1 m2 m3 m5 m6 comment time
499 6 09:45 11.04.2010
857 3
958 3
792 5
414 4
563 3
622 4
843 4
907 3
970 3
606 7
922 4
938 3
921 3
372 7
864 3
718 7
609 4
858 9
643 4
534 6
693 4
866 5
906 5
929 5
934 3 10:15
517 6
390 4
621 4
657 4
444 4
657 4
968 4 break 10:45
870 4 12:45
704 3
921 3
731 3
793 5
506 4
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696 5
437 7
498 4
875 5
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608 5
1006 3
804 3
812 3
535 4 13:15
564 6
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612 4
562 8
882 3
567 4
617 7
827 4
732 3 13:45
672 8
815 5
889 5
893 3
945 3
561 4
880 4
496 4
793 3
731 3
589 5
665 6
986 2 14:15
849 6
1019 5
906 4
818 5
895 3
954 3
417 4
592 6 14:45
544 6
841 5
770 3
865 4
682 2
540 2
641 3
674 7
822 4
603 7
791 4
946 3
918 5
589 7
546 6
574 8
584 8total crap runs. low hitrate and small claims. should do eighter cnd or 109 amps next runs i guess
logging off and taking a break did not really help.