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Don't tell me all that, please.

If I don't hit something with 109s ANYWHERE - I lose PEDs. I lose PEDs with two 109s. With 3. With 4. And even with 10. Luck - secondary. Primary is: big distance, and most important: bankroll.

Exactly, as you said on CND - 80 NRF - normal. Best HR which I had on CND - it's 7%, my personal record.

Sometimes... there is interesting things happens in craft. Also in hunt. And so in mining. Especially, when you got nothing long time - then series of "returns". But you need to push/drop/shoot/ constantly. It's how's the fool-proof balance works for me, system WILL return a large percent of spent PEDs.

Now, imagine you have that damn amp. For the system - you lose, while you just keep dropping bombs. But system doesn't "balanced" against that damn amp. Is it clear?

Yep... :D
But i think the looks is not from this...
 
Maybe some1 posted that already maybe not. Ill try to shed some light for those who dont know what happened. I wont use any names and i cant say that info is 100% true but this is what i know.
Some Avas (not jsut 1) noticed that there is an amp bug and reported it to MA (as far as i know there was a way to make L amps Unl). Some avas knew about the bug but instead of reporting it they exploited the bug...
We talking about months not weeks here...Those avas were gettin rich. Started to trade high end items but also selling peds very cheap. And thats why so many ppl got banned. Some ppl are clear ofc. Those are the ppl who just trade some items in game with those guys and didnt know anything about the exploit. But there are also avas who bought peds cheap from those exploiters - they wont tell cuz they are affraid they will get perm banned as well.
As i said - this info might be not accurate but this is what might happened recently i belive...
 
Maybe some1 posted that already maybe not. Ill try to shed some light for those who dont know what happened. I wont use any names and i cant say that info is 100% true but this is what i know.
Some Avas (not jsut 1) noticed that there is an amp bug and reported it to MA (as far as i know there was a way to make L amps Unl). Some avas knew about the bug but instead of reporting it they exploited the bug...
We talking about months not weeks here...Those avas were gettin rich. Started to trade high end items but also selling peds very cheap. And thats why so many ppl got banned. Some ppl are clear ofc. Those are the ppl who just trade some items in game with those guys and didnt know anything about the exploit. But there are also avas who bought peds cheap from those exploiters - they wont tell cuz they are affraid they will get perm banned as well.
As i said - this info might be not accurate but this is what might happened recently i belive...

I also think its connected to this and i know someone reported it and stated it here on forum officially.
And it is clear more people knew about it and exploited it... Its just a people nature.

I hope they just perma ban all of them! :)
 
I also think its connected to this and i know someone reported it and stated it here on forum officially.
And it is clear more people knew about it and exploited it... Its just a people nature.

I hope they just perma ban all of them! :)

If people were profiting and making lots of ped from using this exploit, im sure they'll get a perma ban :)
 
Making L items UL is pretty insane.


Much banning required, if not lawsuits. People should know not to screw with this....

This is real cash.. not monopoly money. Creating peds ... isn't that like money laundering?

Seriously. Take legal action MA. Make some peds for us :)
 
Its not creating peds. Its having an insane turnover MU free.
 
Dont know i mine around 150 oa103 month with some hight amps in middle...

Dont know if u call this large scale some people do more...

now imagine somebody going over all of your activity and all of your trades and checking that everything was legit. Going to take time, don't you think?
 
now imagine somebody going over all of your activity and all of your trades and checking that everything was legit. Going to take time, don't you think?

im complely sure all i done was legit specially after the 1 month ban i change my game system just to mine hard and hunts...
 
im complely sure all i done was legit specially after the 1 month ban i change my game system just to mine hard and hunts...

And what was you doing before, exploiting the shit out from the game ? :D

I hope you dont think that 1 month BAN might clear up everything you did before it. If you have done anything bad other then VTOL hunting be prepared to say bye bye ;)
 
Maybe some1 posted that already maybe not. Ill try to shed some light for those who dont know what happened. I wont use any names and i cant say that info is 100% true but this is what i know.
Some Avas (not jsut 1) noticed that there is an amp bug and reported it to MA (as far as i know there was a way to make L amps Unl). Some avas knew about the bug but instead of reporting it they exploited the bug...
We talking about months not weeks here...Those avas were gettin rich. Started to trade high end items but also selling peds very cheap. And thats why so many ppl got banned. Some ppl are clear ofc. Those are the ppl who just trade some items in game with those guys and didnt know anything about the exploit. But there are also avas who bought peds cheap from those exploiters - they wont tell cuz they are affraid they will get perm banned as well.
As i said - this info might be not accurate but this is what might happened recently i belive...

ban all those who did this... with out question... 100% ban... and i am certain i know who they were... always mining cnd with big ass 109s... there wasnt enough 109s crafted to sustain the amount of amp burn these people did... without paying the 190%+ mark up... they profited real nice i am sure or atleast came close to doing well...

i noticed a lot of these guys were buying amazing gear... and i had my doubts they deposited much but instead profited to get this gear... it all makes sense now...
 
im complely sure all i done was legit specially after the 1 month ban i change my game system just to mine hard and hunts...

You misunderstood me. I was not saying any of it was illegal, I was saying that going over all of it would take a long time.
 
ban all those who did this... with out question... 100% ban...

If it is true, I want them shot!

... ok, maybe just perm ban :silly2:

Cheeky F**Kers!

Bye All
:)
 
how the fuck can people turn an L amp into unl????

if this really happened it should be 100% ban forever
 
Maybe some1 posted that already maybe not. Ill try to shed some light for those who dont know what happened. I wont use any names and i cant say that info is 100% true but this is what i know.
Some Avas (not jsut 1) noticed that there is an amp bug and reported it to MA (as far as i know there was a way to make L amps Unl). Some avas knew about the bug but instead of reporting it they exploited the bug...
We talking about months not weeks here...Those avas were gettin rich. Started to trade high end items but also selling peds very cheap. And thats why so many ppl got banned. Some ppl are clear ofc. Those are the ppl who just trade some items in game with those guys and didnt know anything about the exploit. But there are also avas who bought peds cheap from those exploiters - they wont tell cuz they are affraid they will get perm banned as well.
As i said - this info might be not accurate but this is what might happened recently i belive...

ROFL if this is the case... Ban the f*ckers...
 
i dont care even if they put in 100k$... if they used this bug... and exploited the system... they get nothing back they broke the EULA... they are ban... forever... no questions asked... no refund... do not pass go... bye bye...

i feel more cheated with this then the bot hunting...
bot hunters atleast used items that they owned and paid for...

these guys bought limited shit... and used them as if they were UL... what kinda horse shit is that...

worst part is i questioned these guys mining along side them... because it was as if they had UL amp... and i asked... and they said no all limited... unreal

if you did nothing wrong... then u dont have to worry... MA will unlock you... but this is the only method of making things right... without possible problems with these exploiters getting stuff outta the game...

sorry you got locked but i wouldnt have this any other way... this is how the system has to be... good job MA for not half assing this...

grrr real pissed off
 
IP ban and all relatives etc :) everyone they know :) bastards!

This is ban forever all of us know it...
This is not a exploiter this is a steeler...
 
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grrr real pissed off

You/We really should be if this is true. Its not MA that is scammed its the rest of us players who paid for this :mad:
 
This is ban forever all of us know it...
This is not a exploiter this is a steeler...

yes but u ban an avatar big deal... they can just make a new one etc... like some of those bot hunters

if you IP ban them it makes it harder to do this... there are ways i would guess... but definatly makes it harder
 
All rich players must be banned. They all is a one big threat to us. I am agree to lead that rebellion! We must gather some PEDs for that.

Oh, wait...
 
Fuck me, well guess they had some fun while it lasted.
Bye bye to some nice items I guess, wonder if they'll ever drop them again...
 
Vigi said:
Maybe some1 posted that already maybe not. Ill try to shed some light for those who dont know what happened. I wont use any names and i cant say that info is 100% true but this is what i know.
Some Avas (not jsut 1) noticed that there is an amp bug and reported it to MA (as far as i know there was a way to make L amps Unl). Some avas knew about the bug but instead of reporting it they exploited the bug...
We talking about months not weeks here...Those avas were gettin rich. Started to trade high end items but also selling peds very cheap. And thats why so many ppl got banned. Some ppl are clear ofc. Those are the ppl who just trade some items in game with those guys and didnt know anything about the exploit. But there are also avas who bought peds cheap from those exploiters - they wont tell cuz they are affraid they will get perm banned as well.
As i said - this info might be not accurate but this is what might happened recently i belive...

Now i understand some strange global/hof i see last months.

One example (take on traker but i don't give name here)
Code:
	Find	value	Time
 	Crude Oil	84 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:22
	Ferrum Nuts	182 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:19
	Crude Oil	236 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:05
 	Melchi Water	77 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:04
 	Zinc Stone	123 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:54
 	Zinc Stone	158 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:51
 	Durulium Stone	116 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:50
 	Adomasite Stone	156 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:24
	Zinc Stone	316 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:23
	Zinc Stone	359 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:23
	Adomasite Stone	489 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:22
 	Megan Stone	118 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:15
 	Megan Stone	139 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:13
	Megan Stone	419 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:12
	Zinc Stone	385 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:12
	Durulium Stone	380 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:07
	Durulium Stone	316 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:04
	Durulium Stone	424 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:04
 	Belkar Stone	128 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:21
	Gold Stone	420 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:17

Another one
Code:
 	Mineral	Find	value	Time
 	Iron Stone	129 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:09
 	Iron Stone	59 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:50
 	Ignisium Stone	135 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:47
 	Blau Stone	313 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:46
	Zinc Stone	484 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:44
 	Cumbriz Stone	122 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:43
	Cumbriz Stone	402 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:40
	Zinc Stone	2610PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:36
	Iron Stone	397 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 04:28
 	Narca Stone	124 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:59
 	Iron Stone	260 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:55
 	Iron Stone	144 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:53
 	Petonium Stone	261 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:46
 	Petonium Stone	159 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:40
 	Kirtz Stone	117 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:31
	Ignisium Stone	451 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:31
	Iron Stone	288 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:30
 	Ignisium Stone	105 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:29
 	Ignisium Stone	136 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 20:27
 	Belkar Stone	249 PED	Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:11

Another one

Code:
 	Mineral	Find	value	Time
 	Cobalt Stone	50 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 05:55
 	Cobalt Stone	121 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 02:26
	Azzurdite Stone	416 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 02:05
	Durulium Stone	1037 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 01:15
	Lytairian Dust	133 PED	Sunday, May 01, 2011 06:11
 	Dianthus Liquid	116 PED	Sunday, May 01, 2011 00:20
 	Garcen Grease	116 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 23:24
 	Lytairian Dust	124 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 22:42
	Melchi Water	765 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 21:09
	Lumis Leach	303 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 21:07
 	Acid Root	126 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 21:06
	Acid Root	338 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 21:04
 	Lytairian Dust	119 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 21:01
 	Lytairian Dust	111 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 19:52
 	Lytairian Dust	131 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 19:13
	Typonolic Steam	350 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 09:01
	Ares Head	489 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 08:41
	Lytairian Dust	313 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 05:52
	Garcen Grease	1357 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 05:22
 	Melchi Water	119 PED	Saturday, April 30, 2011 05:21

And a last one but i'm sur more of them can be found
Code:
 	Mineral	Find	value	Time
 	Durulium Stone	108 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:46
 	Ganganite Stone	197 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:44
 	Iron Stone	110 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:39
 	Durulium Stone	136 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:36
 	Petonium Stone	281 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:35
 	Caldorite Stone	146 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:33
 	Belkar Stone	136 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:29
 	Caldorite Stone	143 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:27
	Caldorite Stone	448 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:23
 	Iron Stone	144 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:19
 	Caldorite Stone	147 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:15
 	Ganganite Stone	104 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:13
	Iron Stone	447 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:12
 	Narcanisum Stone	154 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:57
 	Iron Stone	269 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56
 	Kirtz Stone	140 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:47
	Iron Stone	439 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:47
	Caldorite Stone	481 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:45
	Iron Stone	365 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:43
 	Zinc Stone	121 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 08:37


Global and/or hof every 2/3 min all the day (cleary use 108/109 on foma)

And all this player don't make a global/hof since the 6 may so i suppose they are lock now or the bug is fix
 
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Now i understand some strange global/hof i see last months.

One example (take on traker but i don't give name here)
Code:
	Find	value	Time
 	Crude Oil	84 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:22
	Ferrum Nuts	182 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:19
	Crude Oil	236 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:05
 	Melchi Water	77 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 13:04
 	Zinc Stone	123 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:54
 	Zinc Stone	158 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:51
 	Durulium Stone	116 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:50
 	Adomasite Stone	156 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:24
	Zinc Stone	316 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:23
	Zinc Stone	359 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:23
	Adomasite Stone	489 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:22
 	Megan Stone	118 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:15
 	Megan Stone	139 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:13
	Megan Stone	419 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:12
	Zinc Stone	385 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:12
	Durulium Stone	380 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:07
	Durulium Stone	316 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:04
	Durulium Stone	424 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 10:04
 	Belkar Stone	128 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:21
	Gold Stone	420 PED	Friday, May 06, 2011 09:17
Global and/or hof every 2/3 min all the day (cleary use 108/109 on foma)

and it was clear through tracker stats that there was not enough crafted 109s to sustain the amount of amp burn this entire society had... but the thing is... even if they get ban forever... i heard they withdrew a bunch of money anyways by selling cheap peds...

i think this is how some people are locked who may not of exploited this...

in past history... MA would take the peds that was bought and issue a warnings to the individual...
such as the issue was with CC fraud... these peds are a form of fraud... this is why MA warns against out of game transactions...

and this was the risk the buyers ran... so even if they get the peds taken... it sucks... but the risk was known... esp. at a big discount...
 
and it was clear through tracker stats that there was not enough crafted 109s to sustain the amount of amp burn this entire society had... but the thing is... even if they get ban forever... i heard they withdrew a bunch of money anyways by selling cheap peds...

i think this is how some people are locked who may not of exploited this...

in past history... MA would take the peds that was bought and issue a warnings to the individual...
such as the issue was with CC fraud... these peds are a form of fraud... this is why MA warns against out of game transactions...

and this was the risk the buyers ran... so even if they get the peds taken... it sucks... but the risk was known... esp. at a big discount...

That list contains only crappy ores. :laugh:

Doubt you can profit on that, including the CND tax.
 
if this is true its bs , all their ingame assests should be confiscated and put back into the loot pool , or else its teh same as letting a bank robber keep some of the money , and not just teh bank we paid for this , talk about an unfair freakin advantage
 
and it was clear through tracker stats that there was not enough crafted 109s to sustain the amount of amp burn this entire society had... but the thing is... even if they get ban forever... i heard they withdrew a bunch of money anyways by selling cheap peds...

i think this is how some people are locked who may not of exploited this...

in past history... MA would take the peds that was bought and issue a warnings to the individual...
such as the issue was with CC fraud... these peds are a form of fraud... this is why MA warns against out of game transactions...

and this was the risk the buyers ran... so even if they get the peds taken... it sucks... but the risk was known... esp. at a big discount...

But Where is LOOTIUS?
If he do the job properly he should see that even when this start to happen...
After some time is normal he fucked many players with this FUKING STEELERS...

This logs is from how?
 
Not so long ago, i counted 37 mining hofs for the same avatar in last 24 hours... 37% of all hofs for just 1 ppl, i was worried there was only 20 ppl left playing this game... :laugh:
 
That list contains only crappy ores. :laugh:

Doubt you can profit on that, including the CND tax.

Without decay on the biggest cost part ( Amp ) AND saved MU you could profit even on ores which you TT
 
:wise:
We shall not forget that they are not guilty until it is proved that they are.

If they are not guilty some have to provide appologizes.:cool:

If they are I second it with no doubt that they should be banned forever. The avatars should be disintegrated and their stocks and gear should go to the loot pool. They know what they did and they know the ToU / EULA / ... , they accept it every time they log in.
:smash::smash:

just my two pecs
 
That list contains only crappy ores. :laugh:

Doubt you can profit on that, including the CND tax.

Hm, correct my if i am wrong, but they said the bugged amps would not decay so this guys would get the resources at like 10% of their cost for someone using the system legit.
So they would clearly drain the loot pool..

Also, someone said this worked for any amp, not mining only. Now imagine hunting with non decaying bbc on modmerc or whatever evil combination one may imagine..

I start getting some clear picture about, I just wonder why the hell didnt MA discover this earlier, dont they do some sort of audits, wouldnt balance team detect the unbalance from numbers if it ran so long?..
 
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