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    Karma comes back around.....

    There has been alot of dicussion about ships Karma in space, and what it tells you about that ship.

    So far we know that the first kill a ship makes, determines its tag. So if you take out 1 fair ship - you are rude.
    The ships gain and lose Karma depending on what they kill, but have no way of seeing what the Karma is at.

    So far I (and others around me) has drawn the conclusion that the first kill determines the tag, and nothign would change that. It just didnt seem right.

    Also, the tag will get stronger or weaker depending who is in the driver/gunner seat. For example a quad is fair when person x is in the seat, and upstanding when person y is in the seat.

    I had never heard of a ship changing Karma...until now!

    Poor Tesh shot down a mob and his quad became fair, after doing a load of escorting and pirate hunting, it never changed.

    Until today, his ship lost its tag, not fair or rude. It was either a bug, or his ship had reached the neutral stage once again. Only one way to test it!

    We headed out into space with a fair ship as target, low and behold when he shot it down, his ship became rude.

    So Karma does come back around.....

    What are your observations of Karma? would be great to get it all figured out

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    Through the years and the course of this thread, we now have a much better understanding on the karma system, how it works, how to gain and lose it, how to bring it back around, and how captain profession has a strong effect on it. We have also worked out many of the ranks which are achievable, I will add them to this post. Hope you enjoy reading the thread
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    From what you've described it sounds as though the passage of time lessens the effect of previous actions.

    This would give an up-to-date indication of a person's intentions. Someone who's been bad (a pirate) in the past who now decides to be a person of good character will find it easier to lose the burden of those past actions.

    The disadvantage to this is someone of bad character could take a break and find themselves (at least temporarily) regarded as "neutral."
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    I bought a minimally damaged quad a week or so ago and discovered that it had bad karma attached to it- 'rude'. I have shot a few space horrors and not pk'd anyone or been pk'd by anyone. Last time I looked I remained 'rude'.

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    You can see your own ship's title by mousing over the healthbar for it.

    When I first came to space my Sleipnir MK2 VTOL got the title "Notable" after flying for awhile with a passenger. It would lose it's title when my passenger got out.

    When I got my Quad-Wing it quickly got the title Rude since Ive shot down several other ships with it. When a 2nd gunner gets in, it gets the title "Disreputable"

    People who kill ships with a bad title, get a positive rating. If you kill ships with a good title, then you get a bad rating. A few minutes ago I shot down another Quad-Wing that had the title "Fair", so I lost Karma on that. I have seen some people with "Upstanding" on their Quad and those people usually specifically target those with a bad rating.

    Most people seem to have the title "Rude" since they have at one point killed another ship with a neutral or positive title.

    I also would like more information on the subject.
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    I just saw Serica with the title Prominent

    Its the highest I have seen so far.

    Edit: when Serica came back she was without a passenger and her ship didnt have a title which means she has never shot down another ship or killed a mob with her ship.

    She probably one of the more active transport pilots atm
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    Well I did change my quad from Fair to Rude as described in Alainas post.
    Then today I shot down a Rude quad and returned my quad to Fair.
    So you definately gain + or - Karma when shooting down ships and can change between Rude and Fair by the status of your "victims".
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    vehicules karma can change at least, despite some societies' karma driven by a single individual which is hardly (or never) reversible.

    Have a good day

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    I took on a passenger today and my Quad got the title "Notorious" while he was alone in the 2nd seat. When I got on board it became "Disreputable"

    The problem is I keep killing other ships that also have a negative title, which makes mine more positive.

    I would love to have the title Notorious all the time

    I want to know what comes next after Notorious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teshik View Post
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    Well I did change my quad from Fair to Rude as described in Alainas post.
    Then today I shot down a Rude quad and returned my quad to Fair.
    So you definately gain + or - Karma when shooting down ships and can change between Rude and Fair by the status of your "victims".
    Oh noes!!! your fair again *hugs*
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    If I choose to go to space with a "fair" spaceship does that mean I am likely to travel with a "better" pilot then if i travel with a "rude" spaceship?
    In other words: are "rude" spaceships more likely to be pirates, in which case I can choose not to travel with them?

    or with this "karma can be reset thing" there's no telling good from evil ?

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