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Update - there is another method which is more precise - the tt value increments per tier in tthe following way
Code: 
T2/T1=2/1 = *2
T3/T2=3/2 = *1.5
T4/T3=4/3 ~ *1.333
T5/T4=5/4 = *1.25
T6/T5=6/5 = *1.2
T7/T6=7/6 ~ *1.167
T8/T7=8/7 ~ *1.143
T9/T8=9/8 = *1.125
T10/T9=10/9 ~ *1,111

Hi.

Maybe something like this exists already, excuse me if that is the case. The tier upgrade components for weapons/tools/etc. seem to be the same, just a coefficient (multiplier) is applied. So basically, we can calculate the components needed for the next tier of our stuff as long as somebody else has already done that tier and has published the materials needed + we can get the coefficient (by comparing previous tier materials, for example). What I propose in this thread is to come up with the coefficients for as many items as possible, and then publish in wiki or so. For weapons, I will use some known items as the base. We can adapt the base as needed.

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]<BASE WEAPONS> IMK2[/FONT]
tier 1 2222
blazar 4679
lyst 11701
melchi 6149
garnets 2339

tier 2 3175
blazar 9359
ganganite 1950
garcen 2456
garnets 4679

tier 3 3333
blazar 14038
cald 2064
lytarian 1939
opal 5264

tier 4 3292
blazar 18717
gazz 1872
root acid 1535
opal 7018

tier 5 2778
blazar 23396
erdorium 1462
angelic flakes 1228
emeralds 5849

tier 6 2667
blazar 28076
quantium 1170
putty     1889
emeralds 7018

tier 7 2222?
blazar 32755?
ignisium 1170?
light liquid 2047?
rubies 6142?

tier 8 1778?
blazar 37433?
durulium 1170?
henren cube 1559?
rubies 7018?

tier 9  1429?
blazar 42113?
adom 1755?
binary 1473?
diamonds  6316?

tier 10 1111?
blazar 46792?
gold 1170?
antimagnetic 1228?
diamonds 7018?

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]<BASE ARMOR> Protector of Empire[/FONT]
Tier 1 446
Blausariam Ingot 588
Oil 2469
Pile of Garnets 470
Blazar fragment 941

t2 638
frigulite 400 
typo gas 330
garnets 940     
blazar 1881

t3 670
Megan 392
Ares Powder 284
opal 1058 
blazar 2822

t4 661
Erdorium 235
Magerian Spray 395
opal 1410     
blazar 3762

t5 558
Erdorium 294
Angelic Flakes 246
emeralds 1175         
blazar 4703

t6 536
quantium 235
putty 379
emeralds 1410
blazar 5643

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]<BASE FAP> ImpFap[/FONT]
Tier I Comp 2681
Lyst Ingots 14119
Medical Compress 1646
Pile of Garnets 2823
Blazar Fragments 5646

Tier II Components 3820?
Ganganite Ingot 2344?
Medical Compress 3289?
Pile of Garnets 5632?
Blazar Fragments 11303?

Tier III Component 3986?
Blazar Fragment    16938?
Medical Compress 4650?
Pile of Opals 6310?
Caldorite Ingot 2325?

Tier IV Component - 3654?
Gazzurdite Ingot - 1993?
Himi Ingot - 2657?
Pile of Opals - 7971?
Blazar Fragment - 21920?

Tier V Component - 3246?
Erdorium Ingot - 1692?
Himi Ingot - 3350?
Pile of Emeralds - 6835?
Blazar Fragment - 27410?

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]<BASE FINDER: todo>[/FONT]
Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]<BASE EXCAVATOR: todo>[/FONT]
 
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Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]WEAPON COEFICIENTS (fraction of IMK2)[/FONT]
IMK2 100% :)
Modified EWE EP-40 Mercenary 78.82%
ImpDOA SH 49.16%
Adjusted Ravenger Mini-Sweeper V1 31.20%
A-3 Justifier Mk.V Mentor Edition 30.64%
Omegaton M71A1 17.56%
Omegaton M71A2 13.53%
Meckel & Loch ML-35 12.83%
Castorian Combat EnBlade-13, Mentor Edition 12.36%
Adjusted Omegaton ASG-3 Warthog 9.37%
Camo Arms Jungle Stalker 5.49%

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]ARMOR COEFICIENTS (fraction of POE)[/FONT]
Carramone 552.45%
Modified Shadow 500.61%
Supremacy SGA 479%
Supremacy 369.91%
Eon Sga 319.63%
Sentinel 314.03%
Vain 275.41%
Shadow 119.95%
PoE 100% :)
Mayhem 32.09%

Code: 
[FONT=Arial Black]FAP COEFICIENTS (fraction of ImpFap)[/FONT]
ModFap SGA 107.07%
ModFap 104.66%
ImpFap SGA 100.00276%
ImpFap 100% :)
AdjFap 5.08%
Adj450 2.9%
 
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As I am lazy to calculate all, your input badly needed :)
The only thing to do - if you know of a confirmed tier quantities of an item not on list, take the highest number of that tier and divide it with the according base quantity. For example, if I have ImpDOA SH and my T6 requires:
Code: 
tier 6 1311
blazar 13802
quantium 575
putty 928
emeralds 3450

I take highest number, 13802 and divide it with T6 blazaar of IMK2 above, 28076. So, the coeficient for ImpDOA SH = 0.4916 or 49.16%. So I post it and it lands on the list.
 
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not sure if I understand what you mean...

Hi,

As said, I don't think I understand what you are talking about...I am pretty sure that you do not mean a TIR when you say "Tier upgrade coefficient", nor are you collecting a mere tier-up ingredient list it seems...

Do you mean to say that there is some (linear?) relation ship between the number of ingredients needed from one tier-up to the next? As in: item A needs 100 blazers for T1, and that will need 100*Coeficient for T2...

Cheers,
IvoL
 
Sorry if I'm not very clear :)
What I refer to is indeed a linear relationship, but for ingredient quantities between items. Example where it is useful:
You are nearing say tier 7 in an item, you are first to reach it. You can find out the approximate quantities (quite close in fact), look at T7 components for imk2 I listed and multiply them with the coefficient of your item, to buy the ingredients before hitting 6.9

But overall, the lists you refer to are not needed, if you don't want very exact quantities, would be enough to know the coefficients for the items - the way it is implemented now anyway.

IvoL said:
Hi,

As said, I don't think I understand what you are talking about...I am pretty sure that you do not mean a TIR when you say "Tier upgrade coefficient", nor are you collecting a mere tier-up ingredient list it seems...

Do you mean to say that there is some (linear?) relation ship between the number of ingredients needed from one tier-up to the next? As in: item A needs 100 blazers for T1, and that will need 100*Coeficient for T2...

Cheers,
IvoL
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ahhh, you mean that if item A requires twices as many blazars as items B for T3, and you don't know T4-ingredients for A but you do know them for B (see the ingredient thread), you can guesstimate what you'll need by applying the same factor (two in this example)...I guess that makes sense, and is good to know! +rep! :)
 
Update - armor T5
 
update - sentinel added
 
update - modified shadow added (lol)
 
Already thought about doing this a while ago, couldn't be arsed to collect all the data though.

Glad that you're doing it now :)
 
Yea this was just an attempt to say that you don't need to keep all the material info, as you can calculate it based on the multipliers posted here. For example I can know how much tango t7 will cost quite accurately though no-one is even close to reach it.
Kimmi said:
items like Eon SGA, i2870 and tango.. you can find material info alleady on wiki or in this tread, as I have posted it earlyer.
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Ya im also to lazy for doing it all myself. Provided the instructions on how to post in post 3 though it would do it :) apparently not
wizzszz said:
Already thought about doing this a while ago, couldn't be arsed to collect all the data though.

Glad that you're doing it now :)
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Added T8 for weapons
 
Added T5 for faps, T6 for armors
 
Tier IV Adjusted Omegaton ASG-3 Warthog

Tier IV adj ASG-3:
Gazzurdite Ingots: 175
Root Acid: 143
Piles of Opals: 657
Blazzar Fragment: 1754
Tier IV Component: 308
 
Ty, added, Adjusted Omegaton ASG-3 Warthog 9.37%
so roughly 1/10 of imk2 tier costs
Konvicted said:
Tier IV adj ASG-3:
Gazzurdite Ingots: 175
Root Acid: 143
Piles of Opals: 657
Blazzar Fragment: 1754
Tier IV Component: 308
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ignore request, based on a misunderstanding
 
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Update - there is another method which is more precise - the tt value increments per tier in tthe following way
Code: 
T2/T1=2/1 = *2
T3/T2=3/2 = *1.5
T4/T3=4/3 ~ *1.333
T5/T4=5/4 = *1.25
T6/T5=6/5 = *1.2
T7/T6=7/6 ~ *1.167
T8/T7=8/7 ~ *1.143
T9/T8=9/8 = 1.125
T10/T9=10/9 ~ 1,111
 
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