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satva69

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As i said in post from general that i will post my hunting and mining on forum...i will try 2 do it every day i play for whole day 2gether.I am doing argo mission...atm i am 275/5000...had 100 and 500 mission done a while ago...i use adj pixie+2a and isis cb19+beast

DAY 1.(argos killed cca 800...1x195 ped global)

TOTAL COST:1014.9 PED (Rifle:212.38;Amp:164.85; Armor:11.12; Ammo 626.73)
TOTAL LOOT:1059.7 PED
TOTAL DAY: + 44.8 PED
TOTAL: +44.8 PED
 
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Best of luck with your log :D
 
DAY 2.(argos killed cca 1700...Globals:71, 64, 80, 55, 98, 65)

TOTAL COST:2170,03 PED(Rifle:442.59;Amp:357.93;Armor:23.07;Ammo:1346.44)
TOTAL LOOT:2109.92 PED
TOTAL DAY: -60.11 PED
TOTAL: -15.31 PED
 
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DAY 3.(argos killed cca 2300...Globals: 131,54, 71, 55, 63)

TOTAL COST:2873.56 PED(Rifle:547.45;Amp:447.7;Armor:30.73;Ammo:1856)
TOTAL LOOT:2580.21 PED
TOTAL DAY: -293.35 PED
TOTAL: -308.66 PED
 
DAY 4. (argos killed cca 2400...Globals: 72)

TOTAL COST:2807.99 PED(Rifle:575.75;Amp:459.12;Armor:31.39;Ammo:1744.73)
TOTAL LOOT:2265.44 PED
TOTAL DAY: -542.55 PED
TOTAL: -851.21 PED
 
Well, calculating your runs shows you are within the 90% range. This is absolutly within the expectations. The good news is it seems you are not doing anything so terribly wrong.
Now most you can do is squeezing out every pec of Markup. You should have had around 1800 PED iron in your loot. @ 106% this should be over 100 ped in MU alone. Claws, extractors and other stuff also hold some low Markup, but Markup. So after MU your loss atm should be in the 600-700 ped range.

Your main problem is the huge turnover, which means you need to optimize your runs. With that amount of cycling a UL SIB weapon could be an option. You should check out if you can reduce overkill by using a finisher. This can reduce your cost another few %.

To slow down turnover either use a smaller weapon, or make breaks of unamped mining runs to catch some MU. Another option could be to slow down playing for a while to get a few CLDs to have something to cover those losses.

GL
 
DAY 5. (argos killed cca 2400...Globals:54, 60, 76, 88)

TOTAL COST:2866.71 PED(Rifle:586.8;Amp:473.43;Armor:34.86;Ammo:1771.89)
TOTAL LOOT:2427.31 PED
TOTAL DAY: -439.4 PED
TOTAL: -1290.61 PED
 
Jennson said:
Well, calculating your runs shows you are within the 90% range. This is absolutly within the expectations. The good news is it seems you are not doing anything so terribly wrong.
Now most you can do is squeezing out every pec of Markup. You should have had around 1800 PED iron in your loot. @ 106% this should be over 100 ped in MU alone. Claws, extractors and other stuff also hold some low Markup, but Markup. So after MU your loss atm should be in the 600-700 ped range.

Your main problem is the huge turnover, which means you need to optimize your runs. With that amount of cycling a UL SIB weapon could be an option. You should check out if you can reduce overkill by using a finisher. This can reduce your cost another few %.

To slow down turnover either use a smaller weapon, or make breaks of unamped mining runs to catch some MU. Another option could be to slow down playing for a while to get a few CLDs to have something to cover those losses.

GL
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What kind of UL SIB weapon did u have in mind? Accualy i am using finisher....laughing smacker one...what are CLDs?
 
satva69 said:
What kind of UL SIB weapon did u have in mind? Accualy i am using finisher....laughing smacker one...what are CLDs?
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CLDs are Calypso Land deeds. Regarding the UL SIB it depends a lot which dps you really need. For small mobs a 19dps weapon could already be sufficient, but i doubt it is what keeps your boat floating. The 30-40 dpas class is already more what suits you ( CB19,P5a, Blix, Ark Guns in that class .... ).
If you go for bigger mobs wspecially with regen maybe an UL CB24, R150 (..), but the latter ones are also a completly different priceclass ( 10 times or so ).

When you decide for one i would say check out for which mobs the (L) version is sufficient and works well for you and when it satisfies you go for the UL version.
 
Jennson said:
If you go for bigger mobs wspecially with regen maybe an UL CB24, R150 (..), but the latter ones are also a completly different priceclass ( 10 times or so ).
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I would also look into the long/short- blades if you want something in this dps range since they are in general much cheaper than the rifle/pistol choices. Only thing is that you need a tagger if you don't like to bodytag ;)
 
DAY 6. (argos killed cca 1500...Globals:94, 57, 73, 53, 69, 53, 55)

TOTAL COST:1915.72 PED (Rifle:408.86;Amp:328.69;Armor:25.03;Ammo:1246.69)
TOTAL LOOT:2443.87 PED
TOTAL DAY: +528.15 PED
TOTAL: -726.46 PED
 
Just a quick question here: are the costs and returns in TT value or with markup?

It may be helpful to log both to see if you are able to archive the theoretical long-term 90% TT return.
 
PkmX said:
Just a quick question here: are the costs and returns in TT value or with markup?

It may be helpful to log both to see if you are able to archive the theoretical long-term 90% TT return.
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its all TT value...in cost i dont get loads of MU coz i loot most of cb19 i need..i might buy some for 105-107%...i get like 1/3 of my loot in iron and i stack hides,wool,extractors,etc and sell them when i have at least 100 PED so its kinda hard to track all MU coz its not sold right away.so if u look at loot log u might see that it is in the theoretical 90% TT return bounderies.
 
DAY 7. (argos killed cca 2200...Globals:56, 59, 51, 98)

TOTAL COST:2892.91 PED(Rifle:573.29;Amp:475.63;Armor:32.77;Ammo:1811.19)
TOTAL LOOT:2478.23 PED
TOTAL DAY: -351.68 PED
TOTAL: -1078.14 PED
 
DAY 8. (argos killed cca 1000...Globals:62)

TOTAL COST: 1447.91 PED(Rifle:286.65;Amp:238.62;Armor:19.78;Ammo:908.82)
TOTAL LOOT:1284.14 PED
TOTAL DAY: -163.77 PED
TOTAL: -1241.91 PED

I am finishing Argo mission soon..what sould i go hunt next...some other mob with mission or stick with argos?
 
satva69 said:
I am finishing Argo mission soon..what sould i go hunt next...some other mob with mission or stick with argos?
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10k BRONZE Argonauts? Well if you are about to finish that mission start working on the Atrox mission chain, you receive evasive skills for completing both Iron and Bronze missions.

~Danimal
 
danimal01 said:
10k BRONZE Argonauts? Well if you are about to finish that mission start working on the Atrox mission chain, you receive evasive skills for completing both Iron and Bronze missions.

~Danimal
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I might suggest to you trying Longu.
This is a mob thats a bit in between Argos and Atrox in terms of HP and such.
Plus you can get a nice chunk of rifle as a reward. (Since that seems to be your main weapon choice).

Then try for Allo or Atrox for devensive skills reward.
 
kingjehu said:
I might suggest to you trying Longu.
This is a mob thats a bit in between Argos and Atrox in terms of HP and such.
Plus you can get a nice chunk of rifle as a reward. (Since that seems to be your main weapon choice).

Then try for Allo or Atrox for devensive skills reward.
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Yea, I would suggest Longu too, they were always very good to me.
 
danimal01 said:
10k BRONZE Argonauts? Well if you are about to finish that mission start working on the Atrox mission chain, you receive evasive skills for completing both Iron and Bronze missions.

~Danimal
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no...10k Iron mission....should i go and do bronze as well?..where is some good spawn of middle matu. argos.
 
satva69 said:
no...10k Iron mission....should i go and do bronze as well?..where is some good spawn of middle matu. argos.
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I think it was near Twins? :scratch2: It has been quite a long time since I've done argonauts, you could try checking out the one island East of Notus. I remember there being decent sized one's there for the bronze mission...

~Danimal
 
CB19 isn't good enough for atrox imho. Costs per kill decrease with cb24/manis.

If you want to stick to the cb19, the low feffs around Fury are good, plus if you like to loot your guns instead of buying them, there's a rumor that feffs still drop korss.

But, if you don't care about missions anymore, I would suggest drones. That seems perfect for the cb19 with grem or shogun or something.
 
DAY 9. (finished argo mission and killed cca 250 atrox...Globals:63, 54, 141)

TOTAL COST: 2405.65 PED(Rifle:411.74;Amp:345.58;Armor:31.74;Ammo:1616.65)
TOTAL LOOT: 2241.65 PED
TOTAL DAY: -164 PED
TOTAL: -1405.91 PED
 
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DAY 10. (did small run on trox...Globals: 151, 67, 186, 189)

TOTAL COST: 1779.94 PED (Rifle:140.66;Amp:203.92;Armor:31.03;Ammo:1404.33)
TOTAL LOOT: 1975.68 PED
TOTAL DAY: +195.74 PED
TOTAL: -1210.17 PED
 
Did run on small trox...usein adj. pixie+2a/herman asi-30 (desert)+beast/vivo t20

DAY 11 (cca 500 trox killed...Globals:76, 69, 53, 92)

TOTAL COST: 3024.44 PED(Handgun:237.35;Amp:341.44;Armor:51.65;Ammo:2394)
TOTAL LOOT: 2721.21 PED
TOTAL DAY: -303.23 PED
TOTAL: -1513.4 PED
 
Wow that armor decay makes me cry :( Try doing smaller Argos. That's like 300-350 ped on armor decay which could be avoided.
 
Dhorm said:
Wow that armor decay makes me cry :( Try doing smaller Argos. That's like 300-350 ped on armor decay which could be avoided.
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Less than 2% armor decay seems not soo bad to me
 
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