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    Question Focus Blow and Increase crit dmg buff items

    Hello forum!
    So during recent sales thread a heated disccussion started about the value on the mentioned items. This then later continued in calling names and more, so i figured to make this thread and see what people think.

    Intention is purely to discus item values
    nothing less, nothing more, try not to be biased and overlook facts

    I will try to list items of interest here and make reply so we can gather some info and hopefully get rid of the idea - i think its worth this cuz i just think so.

    FB items:

    • Easter ring 2016 - 3 FB, 8% crit dmg, defense buffs - 15% (Left hand)
    • Summer ring 2016 - 2FB, 8% faster reload, 25% blp,laser,melee skill gain
    • Ares ring FB/Reload speed/crit dmg
    • Perfected 1.2/14/14
    • Augmented 1/12/12
    • Modified 0.8/10/10
    • Improved 0.6/8/8
    • Adjusted 0.4/6/6
    • Unique Theia 1/12/12
    • Ranger scope mk1 - 1.0 FB
    • Ranger scope mk2 - 2.0 FB
    • Deathbringers crown - 1.0 FB
    • Viceroy (account bound)
    • Adjusted 0.2 - 6300 PED
    • Improved 0.4 - 5552 PED + adj viceroy
    • Modified 1.0 - 5391 PED + imp viceroy (17.2k total)


    Upcoming:
    • Mayhem Scintillator Viridian (lvl95)
    • Mayhem Scintillator Heliotrope (lvl75)
    • Mayhem Scintillator Cobalt (lvl55) first one sold for 20k peds
    • Mayhem Scintillator Azure (lvl35)



    Crit dmg items:
    (not including rings that are mentioned above)
    • Mk1 sight - 10% Last open sale for 26k here.
    • Mk2 sight - 20%
    • EST set of 7 - 60% (limited)
    • Halloween ring 2015 - 13%
    • Unique Helios ring - 10%
    • Christmas ring 2015 - 12%
    • Unique Tethys ring - 15%
    • Rage 35 20%
    • Rage 25 20%
    • Rage 20 20%


    Is there anything i have forgotten? feel free to add or correct if i got any of the values wrong.

    can we put price tags on these?
    *recent sale history is best indicator imo - shows how much one was ready to pay or sell for, doesnt mean the next one will be selling/buying for that but its a good indicator in general.
    *theoretical - what if = is secondary indicator. if well argued it can be a good idea.
    * "i would pay for" = is third indicator. If u say this then be very very fair on it. Please refrain from trolling - (for example - "i would pay 100 peds for mk2 sight" )because clearly everyone would have one if thats what they would go for right?


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    Last edited by duncis; 02-15-2017 at 22:50.
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    Very well compiled list of mod viceroy cost to make by San:

    Quote Originally Posted by San View Post
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    Market rates are in flux, this is from the latest snapshot. Armor set markups are just taken from the male harness.

    1.
    [Adjusted Nanites]*14 = 14 * 1,00 PED * 31600% = 4424 PED (up from ca. 20k%)
    [Musca Harness (M,L)] Set = 40 PED * 163% = 65,20 PED
    [Bismuth Plating] 700 = 700 * 0,60 PED * 428% = 1797,60 PED
    [Ospra Ingot] 210 = 210 * 0,06 PED * 110% = 13,86 PED
    => total 6300 PED

    2.
    [Improved Nanites] 14 = 14 * 1,00 PED * 25000% = 3500 PED
    [Canis Harness (M,L)] Set = 120 PED * 198% = 237,60 PED
    [Bismuth Plating] 700 = 700 * 0,60 PED * 428% = 1797,60 PED
    [Banite Ingot] 70 = 70 * 0,24 PED * 105% = 17,64 PED
    => total 5552 PED

    [Modified Nanites] 14 = 14 * 1,00 PED * 23300% = 3262 PED
    [Lupus Harness (M,L)] Set = 180 PED * 151% = 271,80 PED
    [Bismuth Plating] 700 = 700 * 0,60 PED * 428% = 1797,60 PED
    [Zulax Ingot] 28 = 28 * 1,95 PED * 110% = 60,06 PED
    => total 5391 PED
    Last edited by duncis; 02-04-2017 at 00:44.
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    Rage 20, 25 and 35 (UL) all give +20% critical damage.

    Adjusted viceroy gives +0.2% critchance, improved gives +0.4% and modified gives +1.0%. Must have all 7 parts.

    And I guess you don't count pills/consumables into this thread right?

    EDIT: Also the thing with easter ring is it's left handed, I don't know why people use summer ring as comparison on price checks. Makes a huge difference...

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    It all depends on your throughput and how you do valuation. Do you price an item based on savings for 1 year? 3 years? 5 years (stupid)? Whatever it is, it needs to be consistent. You don't get to set it at 3 years when you sell and then 1 year when you want to buy. This up selling and downplaying items based on your side of the fence makes one very shady.

    As for viceroy, they are account bound, so no point discussing these really. More so their components..

    Mod viceroy costing 200ish x 42 plus 2100 bismuth plating at 400% plus 300 to 500ped of misc. I paid far less but that's current price.

    Summer ring is 28kish currently. The 25% skill buff is not the same as a 25% skill pill.

    Mk1 scope imo should be no more than 18k. If it sells for more, well, good for them I suppose. That's more than my 1 year savings rate. Someone with much higher turnover will have a different opinion.

    Imp ares is around 300, mod is around 4 to 5k, Aug is 8 to 10k currently. Not sure the adjusted ever dropped...

    Est is TT * 2000%. Lot of sets up for sale though. I'd say 2k% is the floor price at the moment. It's still a fairly in demand armor set.

    Just remember that you don't manufacture peds with these tools, you save them. You get to grind more for less peds meaning collectively there are less and less peds in the pool per time unit. There are no ped makers. There are ped savers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    It all depends on your throughput and how you do valuation. Do you price an item based on savings for 1 year? 3 years? 5 years (stupid)? Whatever it is, it needs to be consistent. You don't get to set it at 3 years when you sell and then 1 year when you want to buy. This up selling and downplaying items based on your side of the fence makes one very shady.

    As for viceroy, they are account bound, so no point discussing these really. More so their components..

    Mod viceroy costing 200ish x 42 plus 2100 bismuth plating at 400% plus 300 to 500ped of misc. I paid far less but that's current price.

    Summer ring is 28kish currently. The 25% skill buff is not the same as a 25% skill pill.

    Mk1 scope imo should be no more than 18k. If it sells for more, well, good for them I suppose. That's more than my 1 year savings rate. Someone with much higher turnover will have a different opinion.

    Imp ares is around 300, mod is around 4 to 5k, Aug is 8 to 10k currently. Not sure the adjusted ever dropped...

    Est is TT * 2000%. Lot of sets up for sale though. I'd say 2k% is the floor price at the moment. It's still a fairly in demand armor set.

    Just remember that you don't manufacture peds with these tools, you save them. You get to grind more for less peds meaning collectively there are less and less peds in the pool per time unit. There are no ped makers. There are ped savers.
    Very good points and i agree on most! Especially on the fact that it depends on player how much he is actually playing so for some hardcore grinders one item could pay off much quicker than for others.
    This is very good and reasonable reply u made!
    Lets keep the constructive ideas coming!

    Adjusted did drop but i only know of one, sadly didnt save the link or i could prove it. Someone else might have it thou.
    Would you be kind to explain current prices to make adj/imp/mod viceroy? I understand its a bit different cuz its account bound but maybe it holds some ground for item value?
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    I value it the same as I do the mk1 scope. Decay is in general less than the scope with general use. My Def cost are still sub 0.9% but then my evade is 63 plus the bonus 20% from the armor and that puts me near cap.

    I paid a lot less than the current market rate.. thankfully.

    The value of the armor is the armor you sell because you replaced it plus having effectively an mk1 scope that doesn't decay if you don't get hit. But if you do, ends up being less than the scope. I should probably decay test it. As durability is a % of max tt of the armor, it is pretty light on decay but I rarely fap at all. You can use it in shared loots but you can't most times with earth shock. It was a no brainer. I also love lazy hunting and don't want to backpeddle. That's stressful af.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicstorm View Post
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    I value it the same as I do the mk1 scope. Decay is in general less than the scope with general use. My Def cost are still sub 0.9% but then my evade is 63 plus the bonus 20% from the armor and that puts me near cap.

    I paid a lot less than the current market rate.. thankfully.

    The value of the armor is the armor you sell because you replaced it plus having effectively an mk1 scope that doesn't decay if you don't get hit. But if you do, ends up being less than the scope. I should probably decay test it. As durability is a % of max tt of the armor, it is pretty light on decay but I rarely fap at all. You can use it in shared loots but you can't most times with earth shock. It was a no brainer. I also love lazy hunting and don't want to backpeddle. That's stressful af.
    The flip side is, you have to wear that armor to get the buff, none other. You also pay for it but can't sell it later.
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    Any prices set now could change in a week, month, year depending on droprate (5 imp ares dropped last 24 hours that are known), new rings easter, summer haloween 2017, and the possibility that as more current rings lose value as more drop, or that MA introduce something else to recharge strongbox sales (pendant, cockring... or whatever).

    The price is what it is on the day, can't really set prices with more coming on a regular basis imo.
    Last edited by Norbert; 02-01-2017 at 23:14.

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    Op can you please keep the formatting consistent when listing focus blow / crit increase damage values per item so it's easier to read?

    Thanks

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    I sold the rage 25 for 35k last fall.
    Oddly I bought it here on the forums for 5k after no-one wanted it for awhile.

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