How come Entropia is not more popular?

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There's people who get even by selling MU.
Suppose they get average return 90%
This means there's other players who give them the missing 10%
MU is a zero sum game, as much as one side gains the other side loses.
/Sort of off topic.

You can't depends on MU.

I got about 95% TT returns in the currently running gold rush, but am still down about 500 - 600 peds.

Only looted one L gun with a tt of about 20 peds, which had an mu of about 140%. All others were just oils, shrapnel, wool, hides, etc. Assuming I manage to sell everything I looted at MU (unlikely), I will still not break even.
 
MU only exist when there is demand.

Not even realistic in calculating % of loots return.

If someone is buying all the muscle oil, 1000%.....wow i hunt and i gain. Is the statement realistic to you?
 
Hm. since when did i talk " all i want is getting ubers" I just don't like to TT most of my ores i find. and that is a fact, that i more have to depo, since MU is low and since we have Explosive crafting.

Ehh, and why the hell you tell me i don't play the game? Stop to use false flags. Thanks.

thats why u need to learn how to mine :) just go for the stuff its needed u will need 111% avg mu to break even in 100k peds turnover imo(u might have less then 90% tt return then u need to cycle more but in long term u will be around 90-91%).

same goes for hunting, when they added gardening i made like 600 profit that day farming wood and thats only from MU
 
thats why u need to learn how to mine :) just go for the stuff its needed u will need 111% avg mu to break even in 100k peds turnover imo(u might have less then 90% tt return then u need to cycle more but in long term u will be around 90-91%).

same goes for hunting, when they added gardening i made like 600 profit that day farming wood and thats only from MU

Do you realy think i can't mine, after more as 11 years droping probs, you make my day :scratch2:
I also don't sayd anything about the mystic 90% of payback into this thread, why you touch this theme here?

I just say, that it is a pain if you must TT loot. I dont have 100k peds into my stock, so i can save large amounts of some thing, to get maybe 102% after searching a buyer for weeks.

The theme is about, why this game is not longer popular. So take the info, what ppl think why it is that way.
About this theme, i have to say, that i lost my last 3 old friends into this game. One give up to play, and the other 2 play now other games, most of the time. I know all 3 ppl since i play this game. This friends are not low skilled, or have noob armor, nor they don't know how to play. They stand into a well known uber soc. Both say the same, that they are tired to tt most of the stuffs. They also sayd, that they feel that the game now is to expensive to play.

But ok, seems all the words don't help to make it more popular, especial, if MA dont listen, why ppl left, and what they have to say, what the reason is why.
Entropia seems to be a Titanic, got hit by a ice mountain.

At least, i still continue playing, about the hope dies as last. So i still hope i get my fun back, some day. But maybe i just will see how the Titanic sink.
 
Do you realy think i can't mine, after more as 11 years droping probs, you make my day :scratch2:
I also don't sayd anything about the mystic 90% of payback into this thread, why you touch this theme here?

I just say, that it is a pain if you must TT loot. I dont have 100k peds into my stock, so i can save large amounts of some thing, to get maybe 102% after searching a buyer for weeks.

Yes i still think u have no clue about the game :) and thats what im tryign to point out ....ppls only complain about the game on this forum and its not helping the game to grow. Yes there some things we can complain but when u played for so fucking long and u didn't even made it to level 100 with 120k hunting and 47k mining on tracker ...sad. U REALLY know everything after that much turnover.

Go on twitch and when a new player its coming and asking about the game...what does the smartass guy say ? "Dont even try it" You can only profit from sweating.
 
Yes i still think u have no clue about the game :) and thats what im tryign to point out ....ppls only complain about the game on this forum and its not helping the game to grow. Yes there some things we can complain but when u played for so fucking long and u didn't even made it to level 100 with 120k hunting and 47k mining on tracker ...sad. U REALLY know everything after that much turnover.

Turnover says jack shit about what you know about this game.
I've seen these reactions before, "you dont turn over enough so you dont know about the game"
:bs: :handjob:

Turning over a lot means you don't know jack shit either because you only spend time auto firing mobs all day. That also wont teach you a lot.
Turnover doesnt automatically equal knowledge.
It says more about the lack of life that you have, the amount of spare time available and the depth of your credit card.

So stop using this BS argument.

It s not a far pissing contest about who knows the most in the game. That's not the discussion.
The discussion is how people experience this game. High rollers and low rollers together.
And those experiences is what we're after here!
 
Turnover says jack shit about what you know about this game.
I've seen these reactions before, "you dont turn over enough so you dont know about the game"
:bs: :handjob:

Turning over a lot means you don't know jack shit either because you only spend time auto firing mobs all day. That also wont teach you a lot.
Turnover doesnt automatically equal knowledge.
It says more about the lack of life that you have, the amount of spare time available and the depth of your credit card.

So stop using this BS argument.

It s not a far pissing contest about who knows the most in the game. That's not the discussion.
The discussion is how people experience this game. High rollers and low rollers together.
And those experiences is what we're after here!

3 hit ability in ~ 5 years more active on forum then game...go play mario

save the new players also don't take any disciples please lol
 
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3 hit ability in ~ 5 years more active on forum then game...go play mario

save the new players also don't take any disciples please lol


See, it's these fuckers like you who make entropia less and less popular.
The freakin' arrogant playerbase.

Well, if you keep telling people to go play mario, that's not helping the game, right?

:handjob:
 
See, it's these fuckers like you who make entropia less and less popular.
The freakin' arrogant playerbase.

Well, if you keep telling people to go play mario, that's not helping the game, right?

:handjob:

im not arrogant lol , i'm just saying the truth...u know nothing Jon Snow :)
 
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See, it's these fuckers like you who make entropia less and less popular.
The freakin' arrogant playerbase.

Well, if you keep telling people to go play mario, that's not helping the game, right?

:handjob:

Actually freaks like him keep game alive by turnover peds.
If you think for a second and you fill the game with only players like you , EU will go bankrupt in 3 months.
I am not saying you should go play Mario I am telling you to go play Entropia Universe :)
 
im not arrogant im just saying u are way to dumb for this game :)

Ahh well, luckily I'm not the only "dumb" one according to your standards.
Actually 99% of the playerbase is to dumb to play this game, right?

See, and that's what the OP was after; "How come Entropia is not more popular?"

It's because of dickhead players like you chasing away players who have the best intention in making this game fun for EVERYBODY!
Dumb or not dumb. I dont discriminate.

Just go on watching down from your uber Ivory tower, pretending you have all the wisdom in the world.
Makes you look very smart and intelligent indeed.
 
Turnover says jack shit about what you know about this game.
I've seen these reactions before, "you dont turn over enough so you dont know about the game"
:bs: :handjob:

Turning over a lot means you don't know jack shit either because you only spend time auto firing mobs all day. That also wont teach you a lot.
Turnover doesnt automatically equal knowledge.
It says more about the lack of life that you have, the amount of spare time available and the depth of your credit card.

So stop using this BS argument.

It s not a far pissing contest about who knows the most in the game. That's not the discussion.
The discussion is how people experience this game. High rollers and low rollers together.
And those experiences is what we're after here!

About the credit card...i have no clue what kind of ppls u met in all those years...but i can tell u about me. I had no money to deposit nor time to play (high school+college) and i still made it to top 10 hunters when i was active.
 
Actually freaks like him keep game alive by turnover peds.
If you think for a second and you fill the game with only players like you , EU will go bankrupt in 3 months.
I am not saying you should go play Mario I am telling you to go play Entropia Universe :)

What, you mean he keeps the game alive by insulting and chasing away players?
Saying I have to go play other games?

Is that a proper ambassador to the game? :scratch2:

Dont get me wrong, I understand what you mean, the game needs high rollers who spend big. But does high rolling mean you have to be an ass to anyone who doesnt spend his life savings on this game?

The game needs both high AND low rollers.

I think that without players like me, the planets would be awfully quiet.
Is that what you want? And would that be best for the game?
 
About the credit card...i have no clue what kind of ppls u met in all those years...but i can tell u about me. I had no money to deposit nor time to play (high school+college) and i still made it to top 10 hunters when i was active.

Well, if thats the case, if you have no money to deposit, on behalf of Messi I ask you to leave this game as you dont contribute to the economy.
You're only sucking the game dry.

And you if you arent even active anymore, why even bother to be here?


Well, let me say I dont mean the words I just said, but these things are being said, which is, well, quite sad.
 
What, you mean he keeps the game alive by insulting and chasing away players?
Saying I have to go play other games?

Is that a proper ambassador to the game? :scratch2:

Dont get me wrong, I understand what you mean, the game needs high rollers who spend big. But does high rolling mean you have to be an ass to anyone who doesnt spend his life savings on this game?

The game needs both high AND low rollers.

I think that without players like me, the planets would be awfully quiet.
Is that what you want? And would that be best for the game?


Redirect the energy of posting on forums and let the global chat do the noise for you.
Let's see how loud can you be.
 
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Redirect the energy of posting on forums and let the global chat do the noise for you.
Let's see how loud can you be.

Sadly I'm at work atm.

But Messi, we're on the same side here. We both want the best for the game.
I've been online nearly daily for the past 12 years (with some down time due personal situations) and I'm not intending to leave any time soon.

I like helping noobs more then grinding mobs.
Flying them around, giving them help were I can.
Trying to make their gaming experience as much fun as possible.

I do consider myself a proper entropia embassador.

So, it hits me all the harder when people only look at the tracker to judge you about your turnover. Saying you shouldnt advice and help noobs because you're dumb because you dont turn over enough.

Entropia is also a social game and high turnover doesnt equal being social. Thats what some people seem to forget here.
 
The reason for this game to don't be more polular is the same as always.

Ped volatility.

I had recently come back to the game. After buy some boxes and some ped from the web shop i found myself hunting medium hp mobs. Prots, scips, formidoms, ambus and caperon youngs. Most of the time i can't even return with the same ped that spent on ammo.

Hunting with maxed out tool and 205 hp and 45+ evader not enough it seems. Maybe it's the time at which i play, i don't know. But it is like having a ok run only once a year and all the other runs is a totally dry loot that i can't even show up on tracker. How the system allow you 50% return is beyond my comprehension.


Craft on condition is total dead.

Mining on planet is a total boredom (even with those new finder dsec that spent more probes than normal old school ones)

Peds just flight away so fast. What i m supposed to do? Almost 10 years ingame now, never sold skills from hunting am I supposed to hunt kerberos for the rest of my life? :eyecrazy:

In the end you have much more fun working for real than "playing" this game. To be serious i only came here to relax a bit. I do't pursuit the big hofs anymore cause they simple don't exist anymore.


If I look back to 2008, mining with low amps was fun, with big amps also. FOMA mining was very thrill amped or not, big amps or low ones like the lvl2 /3 that were my favorites.

The craft was fun back in those days. Both cheap bps and costly ones were fun to click. I was so addicted to texturing craft and yet it was very cheap ass bp's but i could do it all day and with a nice thrill. Go there now and click the same BPs and you all will see a big difference. Nowadays 95% of the big HOFs are on explosives projectiles. I even had a try on the explosive proj II recently and on condition it really look like the craft system is broken. I mean it, i m not joking. I could pull a few minis on quantity but on condition it's a 100% chance to lost peds fast and without any thrill.

Now add to that the old argo/drone/trox that could produce 8/9 k peds and the team hunts for big mobs like the mulmuns were I had amazing soc. hunts at the time. with various uber loots in less than 30 minutes.


The game is more compost now with pets, plot gardening, space, all the other planets and now even a FPS simulator. A lot of things to do and skill but the thrill is all gone. Sure I still like the game but the way i see it have changed so much!!


Planes for future? Maybe focus on sweating and hunt very low hp mobs for missions. The gremlin and the 5b should go since i can't justify a reason to keep them. Maybe even sell commando, evade, medicine skills since they still worth a bit and I can't find any reason, other than HP/skills showoff, to keep them.
 
u didn't even made it to level 100 with 120k hunting and 47k mining on tracker ...sad.


Let me enlight you, there are a lot of people with (way) more turnover on tracker who did not made it to lvl 100.
Due to have started after 2006 (skillnerfs) or simply cause they skilled in different professions.

And yes loot became kinda boring, currently helping a returning player who had a 5 year break and this is amongst others 1 thing he is complaining of.
 
About the credit card...i have no clue what kind of ppls u met in all those years...but i can tell u about me. I had no money to deposit nor time to play (high school+college) and i still made it to top 10 hunters when i was active.

You are Soooo uber! :eyecrazy:
 
You are Soooo uber! :eyecrazy:


Maybe my last post here.

All i wanted to say im so tired of ppls crying and it doesn't help the game at all. Did any of you started to put the right question? I'm losing...what im doing wrong ? Thing is there is a group of ppls that are saying this game is a casino. Yes its luck when u get items but rest its all about your activity. Crafting explosives for what ? just because a guy hit a 170k ?!. I won't ever do a profession that in long term won't cover from MU my tt loss = i always profit long term. Then some other ppls "oh you get hofs you are lucky" bro i was active and i was hunting only after L guns since those were easy to sell and i didn't care about the tt return because in the end i was always +. So compared to active hunters like Adel (we were both hunting scip) or fluske, my return was not that constant as Adel's had so i was getting more ubers hofs but in the end we were both like 90-95% or so.

Trance you say you want to have the chance in getting a 20k hof. Thing is the hunting system is changed. The 5000 multipier is way to rare now but they increased the rate of 300 multi. I had like 12 or 13 of those last 9 months and nothihng over 300+ multi. If this was 5 years ago i was getting maybe only one 300 multi and a maybe a 4-5k.
 
.... Yes there some things we can complain but when u played for so fucking long and u didn't even made it to level 100 with 120k hunting and 47k mining on tracker ...sad.

You be so fucking long into game, why you did not make so many make up mask like me ?

maybe this is the reason , why i don't have more as 250k total skills.

Ey, and gratz that you be one of the very rare ppl, making profit. Don't forget, we, the other ones, pay for this.
 
You be so fucking long into game, why you did not make so many make up mask like me ?

maybe this is the reason , why i don't have more as 250k total skills.

To some cycling ped is the only thing that counts. They kinda forgot that entropia is a lot more than just autofiring the same mob all day.

They forget that people like you bring color to the game with in your case the various masks that you make.
:thumbup:


Don't forget, we, the other ones, pay for this.

hehehe, thanks for paying for my profits as well! :wtg:
 
Don't forget, we, the other ones, pay for this.

No you don't.
You just invest in your avatar for later on.
Be careful what you are saying.
If you paid someone please show us the receipt.
 
No you don't.
You just invest in your avatar for later on.
Be careful what you are saying.
If you paid someone please show us the receipt.

I dont think you understand what trace is saying. When someone profits through mu, someone else has to pay for that mu. As Ma takes their share though decay. So if someone profits in game, then several others will lose to pay for that profit.
 
I dont think you understand what trace is saying. When someone profits through mu, someone else has to pay for that mu. As Ma takes their share though decay. So if someone profits in game, then several others will lose to pay for that profit.

And what I am saying is that you don't lose.You invest period.
You will only lose if you stop playing.
 
or until MA changes something so that you're investments are worth less.

It'll be interesting to see the end result of the battle simulator introduction.
 
A game like EU will never become mainstream in popularity. You have a free Chat and can sweat mobs after some non repeatable missions that sponsor you some basic stuff and ammo. That is all and for the most people that is not enough to keep on gaming.

How many people try to get on with 50 - 100 dollar / month for a few months and just feel drained while playing because the amount of cash is not enough for them to keep them busy in the classic mmo activites like crafting, mining and hunting ?

Other games give you free pve and pvp content and cash in later at the endgame gear and upgrading this. Over the time you play this game you feel like moving forward , getting stronger and better and finally get attached to the game to the point you start spending more and more money. In contradiction in EU progress comes with costs at level 1 and if you not spend money you hit a wall way too early. The activities dosn't feel rewarding they just ped drains and you not farming up your next level gears from hunting no you have to buy it from the auction or a shop and here comes the point where people ask themself whats the point of this game ? "It seem i pay for others to profit"

And after this most people turn their backs on EU and go for another game. And ofc they will tell everyone who wants to hear it or even dont want to hear it how expensive and wired entropia is.

^THIS is NOT my personal opinion! This is what i believe the average gamer who is used to cash shop games is feeling when confronted with Entropia Universe give it a try and try to force their former mmo expirience 1 - 1 onto EU and start losing peds faster than you can spell broke.

Only a minor faction of people is able to adapt into EU and value its freedom and real cash economy. No VR or mega sale PR stunt will ever change this.
 
I think EU was best when it was PE in 2005.
Then they started to break things. First they have broken skilling system, then fun loots, then their netcode (when your high speed ADSL/Ethernet connection started to work worse that shared access 256k bit sync modem connection, heh). Then the armor boots then day-night cycle, the fugly past CE computer-generated landscapes.
 
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