Info: CDF Edition decay values + Extender Usage Info

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I did some semi-extensive testing of CDF Edition weapon decay values and it seems to me that all CDF weapons have 19400 uses (20000 if minimum TT was 0%) meaning that:

all CDF 0.20PED valued items decay 0.001pec per use

all CDF 0.40PED valued items decay 0.002pec per use

all CDF 0.60PED valued items decay 0.003pec per use

all CDF 0.80PED valued items decay 0.004pec per use

all CDF 1.00PED valued items decay 0.005pec per use

Currently it seems EntropiaWiki has many values that are incorrect or missing in this regard, but as CDF weapons are not tradeable their decay values must be tested very carefully by bringing exact amounts of ammo and using the condition tooltip to get more accurate info:
cFqMjEs.png


The implications of this information are as follows:

1)Damage dealt per shot is an extremely important factor to take into consideration when selecting a CDF Edition weapon if you want to get the most bang for your buck, high fire rate CDF Edition weapons will often be a suboptimal choice.

2)All extenders are entirely useless on 0.20, 0.40, 0.60 CDF Weapons TESTED (excluding P30 on 0.60)

3)P20 extenders absorb 25% instead of 20% on 0.80 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding) TESTED

4)P15 extenders absorb 20% instead of 15% on 1.00 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding) TESTED

5)P30 extenders absorb 33% instead of 30% on 0.60 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding)

6)P30 extenders are extremely overpriced and should never be bought because the only niche use for it is with 0.60 CDF Weapons

If anybody has any questions or any info they'd like to add, please feel free.
 
So in other words the P20 on the 80pec or 1ped CDF guns are worth it and to buy the slower versions of the weapons?

Thank you for your research. This couldn't have been cheap!
 
1)Damage dealt per shot is an extremely important factor to take into consideration when selecting a CDF Edition weapon if you want to get the most bang for your buck, high fire rate CDF Edition weapons will often be a suboptimal choice.
I dont really understand this point. Can you please explain?


3)P20 extenders absorb 25% instead of 20% on 0.80 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding) TESTED
Does this mean that all extenders like P15 and P30 also absorb extra 5% on 0.80 CDF weapons?
 
I dont really understand this point. Can you please explain?

He won't be able to explain anything anymore so I'll try. For 60 tokens you can get LC-60 (136 dmg) or L1100E (73 dmg), both will last for 19400 shots, so you will get almost twice as much total dmg from LC-60 than from the L1100E for same value (2638400 vs 1416200).

Does this mean that all extenders like P15 and P30 also absorb extra 5% on 0.80 CDF weapons?
Haven't tested it but, following same math, on 0.80 weapons both P15 and P30 should save 20%, instead of 15% and 30% respectively.
 
He won't be able to explain anything anymore so I'll try. For 60 tokens you can get LC-60 (136 dmg) or L1100E (73 dmg), both will last for 19400 shots, so you will get almost twice as much total dmg from LC-60 than from the L1100E for same value (2638400 vs 1416200).


Haven't tested it but, following same math, on 0.80 weapons both P15 and P30 should save 20%, instead of 15% and 30% respectively.

Makes sense now. Thank you very much Svarog.
 
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Actually, this is an insulting and legally incorrect description for a doubtless inadequate and tasteless, but according to swedish and european law non-illegal act about a person, who cannot defend himself here anymore.

I absolutely did not condone the choice of words or the intention at all, but please face the facts:
It is perfectly legal in Europe trying to relate to a 16+ yo person, when you are 20+ yo (and most likely in your own country, too).
This includes explicit language. The questionable explicit content started after she turned 16.
Furthermore, the girl was not physically approached in any way, and she actually encouraged his verbal approach to a certain point.
Nonetheless, even the slightest odor of something like this (false or true) can be toxic for reputation, so companies act regradless.

In this light MA's decision is way more questionable, and if the person concerned was older and more life experienced, he easily would have won a labor court lawsuit about it.

So please stay reasonable.
(oh... i cant wait for an upcoming shitstorm that ignores facts and european jurisdiction...)
 
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I did some semi-extensive testing of CDF Edition weapon decay values and it seems to me that all CDF weapons have 19400 uses (20000 if minimum TT was 0%) meaning that:

all CDF 0.20PED valued items decay 0.001pec per use

all CDF 0.40PED valued items decay 0.002pec per use

all CDF 0.60PED valued items decay 0.003pec per use

all CDF 0.80PED valued items decay 0.004pec per use

all CDF 1.00PED valued items decay 0.005pec per use

Currently it seems EntropiaWiki has many values that are incorrect or missing in this regard, but as CDF weapons are not tradeable their decay values must be tested very carefully by bringing exact amounts of ammo and using the condition tooltip to get more accurate info:
cFqMjEs.png


The implications of this information are as follows:

1)Damage dealt per shot is an extremely important factor to take into consideration when selecting a CDF Edition weapon if you want to get the most bang for your buck, high fire rate CDF Edition weapons will often be a suboptimal choice.

2)All extenders are entirely useless on 0.20, 0.40, 0.60 CDF Weapons TESTED (excluding P30 on 0.60)

3)P20 extenders absorb 25% instead of 20% on 0.80 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding) TESTED

4)P15 extenders absorb 20% instead of 15% on 1.00 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding) TESTED

5)P30 extenders absorb 33% instead of 30% on 0.60 CDF Weapons (due to favorable rounding)

6)P30 extenders are extremely overpriced and should never be bought because the only niche use for it is with 0.60 CDF Weapons

If anybody has any questions or any info they'd like to add, please feel free.
Any data on using P30 on 1.00 PED CDF? Does it absorb more than P20 or the same due to rounding?
 
Asked MA support but not surprisingly they could not answer it...
 
Did some testing of my own today and it seems that P20 is applicable to 60 PEC CDF.
In theory the extender should absorb 0.6 mPEC (3 * 0.2) it's however rounded up to absorb 1 mPEC.
See data below:

CalyTrek CR Spirit Mk. 1, CDF Edition
No Extender
Shots0100200300
Weapon TT0.03290.02990.02690.0239
Delta TT00.0030.0060.009
Decay/Shot (mPEC)333
With P20
Shots0100200300
Weapon TT0.03890.03690.03490.0329
Delta TT00.0020.0040.006
Decay/Shot (mPEC)222
 
Was too curios so I had to buy a Mayhem P30 Extender to try on 100 PEC CDF.
I was almost sure it would be a bad idea but it actually wasn't.
In theory the P30 should absorb 1.5 mPEC but it gets rounded up to 2 and the decay of the weapon is just 3 mPEC!

Predator (100PEC)
Mayhem P30
Shots0100200300
Weapon TT0.95190.94890.94590.9429
Delta TT00.0030.0060.009
Decay/Shot (mPEC)333
 
Did some testing of my own today and it seems that P20 is applicable to 60 PEC CDF.
In theory the extender should absorb 0.6 mPEC (3 * 0.2) it's however rounded up to absorb 1 mPEC.
See data below:

CalyTrek CR Spirit Mk. 1, CDF Edition
No Extender
Shots0100200300
Weapon TT0.03290.02990.02690.0239
Delta TT00.0030.0060.009
Decay/Shot (mPEC)333
With P20
Shots0100200300
Weapon TT0.03890.03690.03490.0329
Delta TT00.0020.0040.006
Decay/Shot (mPEC)222
Ya, I get the same - happy days :)
 
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