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Carbon, How did you go with this. Having similar issues on this end.
I will say, Google is also blocking the site.
We sure this is completely safe..?
This ....
Google does this from time to time. When I talked to Ido last, he said it had something to do with how he obfuscates the LBML's code so people can't copy it. Something about that sets off false positives for Google and sometimes virus scanners. I'm sure there's some more official/professional way to do that, but I think it's also a product of being a volunteer project
I don't think Ido has been as active to address this recent round like they have others, but nothing has significantly changed with it in the years it's been in use really.
So he tries his best to hide the code and when it sets off virus alerts people are still willing to trust the program written by a guy they've never met?
Something like this should be open source, it's not like he's got the secret to a billion dollar idea in that code.
Pretty sure Mindark has never 'approved third party tools.'. They actually suggest not using third party apps. The community may suggest using them, and some may be relatively safe but I don't think Mindark has every actually approved use of any of them... and may actually have suggested in some support tickets or comments on forums, etc. that using them as player's own risk of possible ban, etc.I agree. I think all MA approved third-party tools should be open source
Pretty sure Mindark has never 'approved third party tools.'. They actually suggest not using third party apps. The community may suggest using them, and some may be relatively safe but I don't think Mindark has every actually approved use of any of them... and may actually have suggested in some support tickets or comments on forums, etc. that using them as player's own risk of possible ban, etc.
So he tries his best to hide the code and when it sets off virus alerts people are still willing to trust the program written by a guy they've never met?
Something like this should be open source, it's not like he's got the secret to a billion dollar idea in that code.
I've talked to Ido about this, and the main reason he doesn't open source it is to prevent people from manipulating the data. I suggested open sourcing it anyway but keeping the submission code as an encrypted library and he seemed somewhat receptive, but I don't think he has much time to dedicate to LBML.
That said, if you run LBML through VirusTotal, it hits on a lot of different scanners.
My personal opinion of Ido is that he's a decent guy (with a long history in EU) who probably wouldn't intentionally include malware in his app.
My professional opinion is to err on the side of caution for community software that I didn't build myself in a clean vm. We don't know what his build process is or if there is a legitimate infection that he did not intend but came from his machine.
I also wonder why MA doesn't just open an API for 3rd-party programs when they are vetting these tools. It doesn't even need to be a plugin interface, just log users actions into chat.log like "You dropped a probe at [12345, 67890, 123]" and "You found a resource (Lysterium Stone) of size 5 at [12345, 67890, 123] depth 1234m" would be more than enough. LBML could then just parse chat.log without doing all these troubles to do OCR/keylogging stuff on the client. Heck, you could probably write an awk script to parse that and insert data into a sqlite db in 100 lines.
Yes, I suppose part of the reason it isn't open sourced is that he doesn't want people to easily submit falsified data, but honestly I don't think it will stop really dedicated people.
I also wonder why MA doesn't just open an API for 3rd-party programs when they are vetting these tools. It doesn't even need to be a plugin interface, just log users actions into chat.log like "You dropped a probe at [12345, 67890, 123]" and "You found a resource (Lysterium Stone) of size 5 at [12345, 67890, 123] depth 1234m" would be more than enough. LBML could then just parse chat.log without doing all these troubles to do OCR/keylogging stuff on the client. Heck, you could probably write an awk script to parse that and insert data into a sqlite db in 100 lines.
Yes, that's why I mentioned reproducible builds, so any interested parties can verify the binary matches the source code and has not been tempered/compromised. This is especially important since 99% of the users aren't going to build the executable himself.
They don't open that because it will result in people trying to bot or create bots, more so than the problem that we already have.
Other MMOs prevent that by simply not having API functions for movement/combat, only for UI.
They dont have that now and we have bots. Dont need AI for that.
Looks like Ido got whatever was throwing the false positive taken care of. It's possible to directly access the website again.