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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat123 View Post
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    Here in the thread are many people who say it isn't fine and i know even more ingame
    If you actually read the posts in this thread, there are not that many saying that. There are multiple posts from the same people saying that, but individual numbers are low.

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    Since Mayhem began:

    152,184.95 ped cycled (tt)

    139,418.11 ped loot (tt)

    1.17% is armor decay

    healing practically 0%

    317.60 ped tt is damage enhancer breakage (100% tt return)

    90.36% tt return

    -14,877.96 tt ped lost in 33 days.

    Congratulations MA, you have achieved Xen Not Playing, not easy to do.
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    Since 12 december 2019 :

    147105 ped cycled (tt)

    138843 ped loot (tt)

    94.38% tt return

    -8262 ped tt ped lost till now

    I have complain? no cause I was using spirit mk 1 and i know my returns could 3-4% better tt if i was using high efficiency weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeH View Post
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    Since 12 december 2019 :

    147105 ped cycled (tt)

    138843 ped loot (tt)

    94.38% tt return

    -8262 ped tt ped lost till now

    I have complain? no cause I was using spirit mk 1 and i know my returns could 3-4% better tt if i was using high efficiency weapon.
    My overall efficiency was higher. Yet at that return % I would probably still be playing and would have cycled a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xen View Post
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    Since Mayhem began:

    152,184.95 ped cycled (tt)

    139,418.11 ped loot (tt)

    1.17% is armor decay

    healing practically 0%

    317.60 ped tt is damage enhancer breakage (100% tt return)

    90.36% tt return

    -14,877.96 tt ped lost in 33 days.

    Congratulations MA, you have achieved Xen Not Playing, not easy to do.
    Ok at this moment I just want to say I am sorry this happened to you. You intentions were good, setup pretty ok, you have spent a lot of time, good intentions and in response they take 1500 USD from you in a month which is like monthly salary for a lot of people in the world. Noone can afford this except for some really wealthy CEO's.

    This should never happen, this proves that even for experienced players who have been here for years, know the game etc, system is broken.
    What bankroll do you need to be able to recover from this loss? 200k ped? Who on earth can afford this???

    Guy's been here since 2005 so you can put your advices 'you do this or that wrong' up in your *you know where*
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    This should never happen, this proves that even for experienced players who have been here for years, know the game etc, system is broken.
    What bankroll do you need to be able to recover from this loss? 200k ped? Who on earth can afford this???
    Don't know about what Xen needs. However for crafting in the games current state i'd go with a bankroll of 40k to 50k times the click cost.
    So 40k to 50k PED bankroll for a 1 PED per click craft, which is an insane bankroll requirement for such a small craft.

    something like 2k to 3k times the costs per click would be okay as bankroll requirement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
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    Ok at this moment I just want to say I am sorry this happened to you. You intentions were good, setup pretty ok, you have spent a lot of time, good intentions and in response they take 1500 USD from you in a month which is like monthly salary for a lot of people in the world. Noone can afford this except for some really wealthy CEO's.

    This should never happen, this proves that even for experienced players who have been here for years, know the game etc, system is broken.
    What bankroll do you need to be able to recover from this loss? 200k ped? Who on earth can afford this???

    Guy's been here since 2005 so you can put your advices 'you do this or that wrong' up in your *you know where*
    This is exactly where I was trying to get at with this thread. The fact is seasoned hunters can't even come close to what is acceptable. They have the skills, the gear and of course knowledge. So what's wrong? The system! A system that when it was introduced seemed interesting since having skills matter is always important. However it just isn't working or generating the results required.

    I say generating the results required because it is required for MA to produce a system that is fair and realistic for people to enjoy the activities in the game. When seasoned players get these types of returns it's MA's fault for not having a better system in place. Because in the end we lose good players that have been here for years and they aren't replaced. They really aren't.

    When new players ask me what looter level I have and I tell them 53. They then say wow you must get 98% returns and my response is no. Sorry but looter doesn't help me at all and I get 91-92% They then have this confused look and question why should we be concerned with looter then? I also ask the same question and wish them luck and hope they stay. However I don't give them false hope in a system that doesn't actually work because why would I want a player to lose money. However who can confidently say with proof that looter helps even a fraction of a % right now? I haven't seen it and many other players feel the same. So what good is it besides smoke and mirrors to satisfy legal measures to keep this game legal instead of being considered gambling.

    Any who argues what is going on currently is just blind to what is actually going on in the community and they only care about themselves and their Ped card. They will scream from the mountains everything is fine and works but obviously it doesn't.

    I hope MA reads this thread and considers heavily the terrible situation we are in and what we need to do to get to a much better place. However the ball is in MA's court to win the players back and give them reassurance that you can use skills, gear and knowledge to actually get the expected results of 96-98%.

    I wish everyone luck out there since that is what really matters.

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    I see players here losing $800 and $1500 A MONTH!!! It doesn't surprise me, I played years ago but stopped playing for the reason that it was just too damn expensive.

    Each year I tend to poke my nose back in and have a look at how things are in Entropia and it's the same old story. I put in 100 as a tester, hunted without armour and healed with adj res chip and mobs well within capability and 100 more or less gone in 10 days. The "Game" is a sick joke.

    Common sense should be telling us all that EU is a small scale, mediocre game and if you are losing anything above 50 A MONTH... you need your head testing.

    If EU is ever going to grow as a game and increase it's playing population returns of 90%, 95%, 97% simply are not sustainable. I shit you not, as an online "Game" and the hours we all like to play, returns should/need to be 99-99.5% return or the playerbase just gets bankrupted except for a few wealthy folk out there.

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    well i did 2 little depos of 50 each over the course of last few days and thought i was just having a bad run but this is one long bad run with horrendous returns and the cost to play this thing is absurd. 8 hours of hunting with 1 x 60 ped global, if thats not a slap in the face then i dont know what is.

    i was in doubt whether to be patient and carry on slowly or take a month or 2 break but the last 2 posts by A bomb and tekkie with whats been going on summed it all up.

    Yes we do need our heads checking and this joke of a company has abused us and our money Alot. just finishing last peds on hunt and then this evening uninstalling and never coming back or ever giving these jokers a penny until there is a post by an MA official saying things have changed and there is evidence to show.

    and to let every one know i have been playing for 14 years yes 14 years and between my 2 avatars i have deposited in the region of 50k to 60k and have nothing to show for it. Absolutely nothing.

    In 14 years not to get 1 decent item or a big one that could change your set up in game clearly goes to show there is no such thing as every one has the same chance and opportunity is the same for every one. Its not. ITS A LIE

    This is one big fraud with a false dream being advertised and the only thing that is saving it from being a casino and gambling is the fact you get something back at every bet.

    Good bye for now MA

    last but not least thank you Tekkie.
    Last edited by TeesMaarKhan; 01-11-2020 at 16:12.

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