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    That's exactly what I said to myself today while I was hunting.

    It's not a new feeling.
    I've been bored with the game for a few months now, wondering what's the point of...

    But now I'm getting to the point where I think it's an absolute waste of time and money.

    What's that because of ?

    Well I have to tell this weekend I lost 2500 PED by hunting big mobs for a few hours at Monria's event... It doesn't help to be happy..

    But most of all, it's an old feeling due to the flatness of the loot.
    Returns are flat as fuck.
    Nothing good ever happens, ever.

    Everything is planned, everything is calculated, no randomness, absolutely nothing to surprise us.
    You hunt small mobs, you lose a little.
    You hunt medium mobs, you lose medium.
    You hunt big mobs, you lose a lot.
    End of story.
    Where are the big loot ? Where are the big HoFs ? Where are the ATH ?


    Also, MA does a lot for the "trading platform" side of EU.
    So "investors" are probably happy, they will be able to deposit $750k again now thanks to the new deeds..

    So investors are happy, and MA is happy.
    But what's left for the players !?
    By the way, are there any PLAYERS left ? Or maybe I'm the last one ?

    I am BORED...

    I play a lot, every day, but now I wonder... why..?

    So to those of you who have read this, the players (not the investors or traders), I ask you;

    What are you holding on to ?
    What keeps you playing ?

    With you completely on this... whilst playing the most expensive game in the world I find myself bored and asking what is the point to this at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImUp2Mischief View Post
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    With you completely on this... whilst playing the most expensive game in the world I find myself bored and asking what is the point to this at all?
    in all games where alot of grinding is involved, one could ask or be asked this kind of question. and yes, the question is fully legit - why finish a single mission in EU, when gameplay isn't enjoyable and fulfilling? where did we lose our minds, especially in this universe?
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    I agree, but I do not think its a games fault. Entropia was always like this, however at a certain point it gets too boring. Its too outdated, there are loads games that provides you more entertainment.

    I do login from time to time still, but to stay more than 5 minutes online I need to have a half year break to make it again entertaining for another half year, and then the circle repeats...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlie View Post
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    I agree, but I do not think its a games fault. Entropia was always like this,
    Exactly this.

    It's always been a boring grind fest.
    The big difference is that 15 years ago it was all new for us and thus exciting.
    That part is gone now and excitement changed to boredom.

    But, we're still here...

    Aren't we a bunch of retards?!

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    it's exactly this bullsh1t mentality that brought EU down to it's current level - because one day they WILL leave and do something else, no problem.
    It's indeed a bad mentality, and a dishonest answer.
    But I sure didn't expect any better..

    As I have already tried to explain, EU is becoming more and more a trading platform and less and less a game.
    So it's putting players and investors/traders more and more in conflict, and EU is becoming a PvT or PvI or PvIT.

    And I think we've gone past the 50/50 mark, and it's already more of a trading platform than a game.
    In many ways, but mainly by the fact that it is 1000 times easier to "win" by investing or trading (so without playing) than by playing.

    Players already don't like traders in general, but it's going to get worse and worse.

    And yes, I know that trade is somehow an integral part of the game since the beginning.
    I don't talk about hunter who try to sell his loot for better prices for sure..
    I'm talking mostly about people who only trade, or are only owners of big stack of Deeds for example, and who are barely taking the risk of playing, and so don't take part in the ingame economy other than by taking money from it.

    So these investors/traders have no choice but to let people believe that it is perfectly normal to lose all their money while playing, or that it is still fully possible to win.

    And when they don't have any valid argument, they will answer "if you don't like the game, leave it".
    This could be translated as follows:
    "Please stop talking like that on the forum, it's not good for my business.
    Let people lose in peace, this money isn't lost on everyone..."

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    Exactly this.

    It's always been a boring grind fest.
    The big difference is that 15 years ago it was all new for us and thus exciting.
    That part is gone now and excitement changed to boredom.

    But, we're still here...

    Aren't we a bunch of retards?!
    We are not a bunch of retards.
    Well I hope (who knows)

    Anyway, it comes from the fact that we spent ALOT of TIME in this "game" already.

    Some of us have been playing this game for years.
    10 or 15 years is a good part of our focking lives !

    You can't forget that.
    And we have a right to be disappointed when changes are made along the way that don't go at all in the direction you expected.

    It's a huge investment, and in my opinion bigger than any amount of money, and one that MA would do well to take seriously.

    Cause there's nothing in the world more precious than time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~ Cirrus ~ View Post
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    Yes, and how much did you pay for this ?

    I mean, how many times did you lose the amount of that tower before you got it ?
    And how many times are you going to lose it again after that ?

    That's the problem, I was playing this game long before 2.0, where you'd see 20k PEDs dropping from the Trox young every week for example, and alot of real big loots..
    You could win TT, I know it cause I did it long time ago.

    Now the only thing you can hope for is to "earn" a small part of the money you lost before...

    Basically, they take 100 PED a day from you, and then after 2 months they drop a 3k PED HoF, which is actually half of what you lost, and people are happy with that because it makes light !?

    It's genius... Or is it something else..?
    See this is the problem with a full RCE system. No matter how you play with the numbers you simply can't pay out more TT than you take in while still being able to make a profit. End of story.

    The sustainability of Entropia is balanced on the edge of a knife trying to make everyone just happy enough to not leave and keep depositing. Or at least to keep people losing their existing peds so they can move that money from the liability column to the profit column on their balance sheet.

    Back in the day (2006-2008?) there was a seemingly endless reservoir of players signing up and pumping in cash. MA didn't give a crap about people complaining of 30% returns as there were plenty of other wallets happily paying every day.

    Now, the player base has dropped off significantly and MA has no choice but to try to retain their niche following of existing and new players to keep the lights on. The biggest way to do this was to balance returns to such a point that less people were rage quitting over 30% returns while trying to get those big fat 25,000 ped+ HoFs.

    They've realized that you don't need to offer a 25,000 ped HoF regularly to keep the majority of people pumping the quarters in chasing the dream. By simply giving a steady 90% return and dropping a few 3000-4000 ped HoFs a day with a 5 figure drop once a month it's more than enough of a carrot to keep the average player paying.

    Bottom line, the game gets dull as there is zero focus on gameplay outside the cash-cow activities. Returns are blah but that's enough to keep people playing. At the end of the day, everyone (except the 100% business driven or lucky poster avatars) lose it all as you simply can't pay out more than you get in a RCE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~ Cirrus ~ View Post
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    We are not a bunch of retards.
    Well I hope (who knows)
    well, I dare to disagree here.

    We are the same retards as they are:


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    Yes, and how much did you pay for this ?

    I mean, how many times did you lose the amount of that tower before you got it ?
    And how many times are you going to lose it again after that ?

    That's the problem, I was playing this game long before 2.0, where you'd see 20k PEDs dropping from the Trox young every week for example, and alot of real big loots..
    You could win TT, I know it cause I did it long time ago.

    Now the only thing you can hope for is to "earn" a small part of the money you lost before...

    Basically, they take 100 PED a day from you, and then after 2 months they drop a 3k PED HoF, which is actually half of what you lost, and people are happy with that because it makes light !?

    It's genius... Or is it something else..?
    That's a fairly negative reply really and it looks to me when I read it that you are focused on the money side of things.

    It also sounds like the way old farts at work bang on about the good old days when "it were much better" which is code for "we got away with doing feck all and there were lots of freebies and now it's shit because we have to actually earn something"

    You get out what you put in which could be why you are bored. Change your approach, find things to interest you, set a goal.

    And stop with the negative waves Moriarty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi S View Post
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    That's a fairly negative reply really and it looks to me when I read it that you are focused on the money side of things.

    It also sounds like the way old farts at work bang on about the good old days when "it were much better" which is code for "we got away with doing feck all and there were lots of freebies and now it's shit because we have to actually earn something"

    You get out what you put in which could be why you are bored. Change your approach, find things to interest you, set a goal.

    And stop with the negative waves Moriarty


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