MindArk's Statement Regarding Unauthorized Use of Official Items

I do agree, and I will instruct the support department to identify and reward those who provided information helpful to our investigation.

While this entire episode was very disappointing and concerning for the community, MindArk, and our planet partners, one bright side is that this was a great example of the community helping to protect the integrity of Entropia Universe. We are often impressed by how dedicated and passionate the Entropia community can be, and we appreciate the help.

Also, I would like to clarify an issue that has been raised by some concerned participants in support cases, regarding how long the abuse that was uncovered had been occuring. Our logs show very clearly that the unauthorized use of the Prototype Regeneration Field chips began in December of 2019.

I can also share that this investigation triggered a more general and comprehensive investigation into potential abuse of other restricted items, official or support accounts, and more. Thankfully, we have not uncovered any other abuses at this time, but we will continue to improve our policies and procedures to prevent any similar issues in the future.

Thanks for the statement.

What about the unauthorized use of the tp chip though? When did that begin if ever?
 
well it looks like general assumption is that it was dropped to someone in loot, but indeed it would be interesting to know how that happened and how it could be fixed as it is very confusing to see some regular player running around with "official" items.
What about the unauthorized use of the tp chip though? When did that begin if ever?
 
well it looks like general assumption is that it was dropped to someone in loot, but indeed it would be interesting to know how that happened and how it could be fixed as it is very confusing to see some regular player running around with "official" items.

And maybe he's not the only one with stuff of this nature...

Either way, might've been legit? No proof, no crime I supose...
 
WOW first i hear of this :eyecrazy:
Glad to hear that MA taking actions on it and hope its a start of much more restrict handling when it come to exploits and cheating overall in the game .
And Good job Zen The Prohpet that caught this and reported it well done m8 :)

Hey Lazz

Depends how deeply I guess MA (I.e. the Government), want the players to police the players. It kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany, where the people were actively encouraged to report their neighbours to the SS.

Sure this chip issue was pretty major. Although I've come across players I've caught away from town centres training pets afk (at least 50 times), by using a knife on auto stabbing it in the air.

I'm also aware that the community is probably around 3k players worldwide, and probably 10% of those full time players. So I let it go, they were burning ped. I sort of smiled to myself they wouldnt catch my per xp doing that anyway..haha. I didn't feel the need to report them.

I'm really struggling with this desired police state. Some of the c*ck sucking posts, I'm actually finding quite repulsive.

So how far does MA want us to police each other, while giving us 95% or so returns?

Rick.
 
It kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany, where the people were actively encouraged to report their neighbours to the SS.

Wow Rick, comparing MA to Nazi's.......Well at least you can't sink any lower.
 
Wow Rick, comparing MA to Nazi's.......Well at least you can't sink any lower.

I didn't say that you did. I'm simply reminding the community that we could be heading that way, if we build a culture of encouraging players to report on each other for every 'minor' indiscretion.

Actually I'm quite surprised. Sweden prides itself on being a very liberal country, and trusting their people to behave within the spirit of the law.

I appreciate we live in an age, where 'judging' and social justice warriors on social media have become the norm. But I'm not a socialist wanting to control other peoples lives.

I'd rather not be part of the game, if the police state becomes the norm. I want to feel trusted to behave not monitored by my fellow players.

Rick

Ps: I wont forgot when i was walking my pets up and down itacha for hours, and some arsehile got an MA official to check if I was a bot.... f*** off. Really annoyed me that.."Police state"
 
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I didn't say that you did.

Actually, Rick, you kind of did.

Hey Lazz

Depends how deeply I guess MA (I.e. the Government), want the players to police the players. It kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany, where the people were actively encouraged to report their neighbours to the SS.
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So how far does MA want us to police each other, while giving us 95% or so returns?

Rick.
 
....

I'd rather not be part of the game, if the police state becomes the norm. I want to feel trusted to behave not monitored by my fellow players.

Rick
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well rick, if the provider of the service (ie. MA) doesnt do their job. the comunity has to jump in.
sad.
 
It kinda reminds me of Nazi Germany, where the people were actively encouraged to report their neighbours to the SS.

Cool, so if we see a "crime", don't report it. Snitches get stitches. Let the ~50 total MA employees have to cover all coding, techsupport, paperwork, trouble shooting AND policing without any help at all from us.

Sure, that'll keep the "crime rate" down. :)
 
Actually, Rick, you kind of did.

"Depends"...how deeply. I said. :)

Come on Jack, there's enough arse kissers in this thread already. You're cool guy, you dont need to join them. Smiles. X

As much as I have a lot of time for the game, management, and community. I'm still very aware it is 'us' versus the house. There's enough logs here struggling with their 95% returns, we dont need to add further stress and join the MA sheriff recruitment drive.

Let's simply trust each other to be good citizens. I want to happy on line, not feel oppressed in the USSR EU.

Rick

Ps: cant help laughing to myself, that it's legal to rob and mug people in lootable space in this game. Or rob miners desperate to find a bit of extra MU to survive in pvp lootable areas. But get this if someone tried to stop a robber by blocking etc.... you can call the EU secret service to defend your right to mug people. Funny stuff hahaha.
 
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Let's simply trust each other to be good citizens.

I think there you have a problem, just like real world not everybody can be trusted, especially when there is money involved.
 
rick i think you start losing the point here...

first, the "police state" is real ever since, as everyone with a scanner saw your pink undies already ;)

second, it has always been the case, that some idiots report random people because they feel the need to play EU police, cause additional work for mindark, and require the reported to argue about what happened ... again, nothing new

but lastly, the most recent issue was about the abuse of official items, not about someone autowalking their pets. i think there's a slight difference, but still no need to compare it to one of the worst times in human history.

:silly2:
 
I didn't say that you did. I'm simply reminding the community that we could be heading that way, if we build a culture of encouraging players to report on each other for every 'minor' indiscretion.

Actually I'm quite surprised. Sweden prides itself on being a very liberal country, and trusting their people to behave within the spirit of the law.

I appreciate we live in an age, where 'judging' and social justice warriors on social media have become the norm. But I'm not a socialist wanting to control other peoples lives.

I'd rather not be part of the game, if the police state becomes the norm. I want to feel trusted to behave not monitored by my fellow players.

Rick

Ps: I wont forgot when i was walking my pets up and down itacha for hours, and some arsehile got an MA official to check if I was a bot.... f*** off. Really annoyed me that.."Police state"

you can happily run after me all day ...

I have nothing to hide and it would certainly not bother me :)

maybe i will find some great entertainment on this way

regards
 
I didn't say that you did.
Sorry Rick but you need to reread your post, you did compare them.


I want to feel trusted to behave not monitored by my fellow players.
This would be all well and good, but then you have people like the one that was caught in this thread abusing an item they should never of had. You want people to be trusted, but then when they are trusted they go ahead and use that to their advantage. MA are not going to be able to catch everything, so having players who notice something odd, report it to MA to look into is how the game should be. Its how any game should be.

But lets port this to real life for a moment like you did (but not as extreme), one way to look at it is if you know your neighbour has gone on vacation and not at home and you see someone breaking into their house by taking advantage of the fact they are not there, you should report that to the police. The police are not going to automatically know it is happening, sure they may come across it if a patrol car happened to drive past at the right time. That is what any citizen should do, its the right thing.

Ps: I wont forgot when i was walking my pets up and down itacha for hours, and some arsehile got an MA official to check if I was a bot.... f*** off. Really annoyed me that.."Police state"

Perhaps it turns out that person breaking into the house is actually someone that was authorised to look after the neighbours pet fish, and they locked themselves out of the house accidently. They will be annoyed you called the police on them, but to you it looked like they were breaking in.
 
When I was a kid, my Dad took me to a party at his friends house in California. Beautiful place. Owned by some guy named Bing Crosby.

It was there I met a lovely lady named Pillar, who introduced me to her husband. His name was Marion Michael Morrison. I recognized him from my Saturday movies.

Me, being a shy kid, I didn't talk much, so he did (he was escaping from all the "fluff" and BS of the other guests). I met with him a few more times after that, but each time, I took away a life-long piece of knowledge.

One day, we were talking about thieves and how to tell who was a crook. This was his counsel:

"TRUST EVERYONE, BUT BRAND YER CATTLE"

And to this day, I do. But don't ask for a second chance.
 
Cool, so if we see a "crime", don't report it. Snitches get stitches. Let the ~50 total MA employees have to cover all coding, techsupport, paperwork, trouble shooting AND policing without any help at all from us.

Sure, that'll keep the "crime rate" down. :)

As I said before I would not like to see a practical system of "report & reward".

But of course, when players discover a cheat of any kind they have to report it. :yup:


Now, I also believe that MA should have 3 or 4 people on their team, whose full-time job would be to monitor and actively fight against any kind of cheat/exploit.

Who would know the mechanics of the game in its finest details, all possible forms of cheat/exploit, and who would keep themself up to date on the progress of current cheating tools (like bots, aim-bot, etc...).
Who would constantly look for ways to cheat the system themself, in programming and else, and who would create tools to uncover and prove cheating. :lam:

And I think even 3 or 4 full-time people would be a bare minimum.
Because there are also the simpler operations to monitor, all those little things that are easier to do, that are also forbidden... (Sleip-hunt, market manipulations, multi-account, and I forget a lot...)

This kind of anti-cheat team (Police, you name it) seems to me to be absolutely essential for Entropia.
Because it's a RCE, and therefore cheating should be taken much more seriously than in any other game. :wise:
 
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btw, i've received my reward already, a really, really decent stack of universal ammo...

so, thanks alot mindark, and also thanks to everyone who took part in the recent discussions about this topic to find out the truth. :yup:
 
That is a very fair outcome and I am truly grateful MindArk was open and shared the results with us,

:beerchug:
 
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Wait... what? :laugh:

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(i'll probably get banned for this but i had to state the obvious)
 
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well, i'm proud being a snitch in this case, and i have never even asked for a reward. i think it was in both mindark's and our best interest, and i'm really sorry for all people living in countries, where being a criminal is rather the normal state, and either telling the police or making issues public makes you become a "snitch".

personally, i can only repeat, that some people seem to work different, as their highest values aren't the personal gains or unfair advantages over all others, but valuing personal integrity and truth above everything else. for sure i won't get down to this level and blame/shame a whole country as either one or the other...
 
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It's obviously completely idiotic to compare two things that can't be compared.

But above all, calling someone a "snitch" because he has exposed an obvious cheat in a video game, seems to me very improbable.
I mean, how can one be against that, unless being a cheater oneself ?.. :scratch:
 
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You all wrong! The ammo should be delivery to DannyO and all his friends! And the dev friend from Arkadia promoted!

This quarantine is making some people heads sick...



"Free Barabbas (murderer and thief) they said!"
 
People, no matter what their values are, they throw them away when it fits their benefits.
 
Please stay on topic and refrain from personal insults, stereotypes and real-world controversial discussion.

:wise:
 
This is the current community we have on the forums...

Stay on topic guys.

P.S.: Hey Mega, more bans and culling! The forum police are cleanin' house! :laugh:
 
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