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    Legal environment for online gambling

    I would like to ask you how is it possible that EP clicking is still legal in some countries which banned on-line and stationary casinos. Entropia Universe is basically half-legal, shady platform for gambling using "EP crafting" as an excuse.
    In casino you just buy tokens and go play on a slot machine. EU feels just the same. Tokens are Nanocubes, slot machine is "crafting machine". In casinos you have fixed return rate, in EU casino return rate is minimally dependent on your "skills".

    My question is: How is it still possible in some countries to craft EP in such anti-casino legal environment? Best examples in my opinion would be Poland and Luxembourg. You see, online gambling there is, except sport betting, is practically banned. It is so banned that even GTA Online virtual casino is not available in those countries!

    Do you feel what I want to express? You cant use virtual casino with 100% virtual no-real-value money but at the same time you can log in to Entropia, deposit 500 USD and loose it in no time clicking EP IV.

    EU is still a niche and wants to stay in the shadows so governments of those countries do not look deeply into their platform. But when those countries will notice what is going on in this "game" it will ruin MA financially very fast because EP IV gambling is vast part of their income.

    This GTA Online - EU comparison hits me hard! It's unbeliveble!

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    Stupid thread.

    When you go to Casino what can you do for free ?
    In EU you can play for free and even be very sucsessful .

    EU is not Casino .

    Nobody push you doing EPS

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    i honestly dont see how this game will survive the big gaming gambling ban that is going around lately. i suppose in 3 to 5 years (tops) this is over. and still people invest in things which need 10 years to return your investment xD

    investing in this game is a huge gamble. far bigger than cryptocurrencies with a far lower payout. i dont get why anyone would do it... i mean just buy a staking coin and depo the profits. you make so much more money with it... its just unbelievable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Farmer View Post
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    Stupid thread.

    When you go to Casino what can you do for free ?
    In EU you can play for free and even be very sucsessful .

    EU is not Casino .

    Nobody push you doing EPS
    i was in a casino and got a free drink and a free "tutorial" game which took about an hour time and was explaining all the different games and stuff including their chances of winning and typical used strategies... so yeah. casinos are better than EU

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    i was in a casino and got a free drink and a free "tutorial" game which took about an hour time and was explaining all the different games and stuff including their chances of winning and typical used strategies... so yeah. casinos are better than EU
    AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH ha

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    http://www.entropiaplanets.com/threa...thority.11087/
    The content of this letter is not to be considered a legally binding document. The Swedish Gambling Authority has investigated the “Loot” system in Entropia Universe in journal number 13Li3786. The investigation was closed on the 30 of October 2013.

    The Swedish gambling market is regulated by The Swedish lottery act (1994:1000). The general rule is that lotteries must not be arranged except by permit (Section 9, Lotteries Act). Permits may in principle only be granted to non-profit making associations whose activities are for the public benefit (Section 15, Lotteries Act), it is thus not sufficient for a permit to be granted that the proceeds of the lottery are applied for charitable purposes.

    There are two possibilities for The Swedish Gambling Authority to act in cases of suspicion of crime, one is to submit to the suspect with a penalty (Vite) the second one is to notify the police. To submit the suspect with penalty it is required to that the offense has been committed within Swedish jurisdiction, this means a server is located in Sweden or the person or company that offers the lottery lives in Sweden.
    It also requires an exact moment when the crime has been committed. It is, therefore, necessary to secure documentation of a Swedish player who lives in Sweden when he or her wins “Loots” in order to prove that the location of the criminal act is within the Swedish jurisdiction and that the legal person responsible for lottery is Swedish. The Swedish Gambling Authority would likely need to dedicate an employee on full-time to play in Entropia Universe before the possibility of gaining loots in Entropia Universe. It has to been proved that the actual legal person which is responsible for lottery is Swedish, in this case, MindArk and that it is not arranged by a foreign subsidiary to MindArk. This would require a thorough investigation concerning MindArks corporate structures.

    Anyone may make a police report at suspicion of a criminal offense. It is likely to assume that the circumstance needs to be proven up to the level which is mentioned above in order for the Swedish court to decide on a punishment on a suspected crime. The Swedish Gambling Authority has come to the conclusion that current circumstances isn´t sufficient evidence to make a police report, if you wish to make a police report, please notice attached contact details below

    Circumstances of the case Entropia Universe has been put forward for head of department in the case of how the matter should be handled. Head of operational department which is responsible for the prioritization and allocation of resources, has decided that The Swedish Gambling Authority currently does not have the opportunity to further investigate the matter with reference to the extensive resource case would take.

    Polismyndigheten i Västra Götaland
    Box 429
    401 26 Göteborg
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    Josefin Jansson

    LOTTERIINSPEKTIONEN
    Don't think anyone's tried recently to contact them since 2013 or so, but there's been at least two attempts by the Entropia Community historically that is documented in community forums if you go back far enough... Above is the second... so... technically the gambling authority in the country Mindark resides in does not consider it gambling, at least not fully...

    If you cannot get them to think otherwise you are definitely fighting an uphill battle my friend.

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    http://www.entropiaplanets.com/threa...mindark.22145/

    regarding the police...
    https://web.archive.org/web/20140711...rt-please.html
    We are very sorry to hear about your experience. We can assure you that we will investigate your report and determine what actions need to be taken in your specific case.

    Unfortunately, we can not return items or money lost due to a scam. Since all items in Entropia Universe have a real value we instead advise you to consider filing an official police report about your lost items. If the police contact us, we will cooperate with them and submit all available logs we have.
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    Last edited by mastermesh; 05-27-2020 at 10:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Farmer View Post
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    Stupid thread.

    When you go to Casino what can you do for free ?
    In EU you can play for free and even be very sucsessful .

    EU is not Casino .

    Nobody push you doing EPS
    I got 100 euro for free and 200 spins. In stationary I often get free drinks and snacks. Everyone can see that you are just a cheap troll. Nobody can treat you seriously when you response to an argument "mehh you stoopid eu no casino bam bam"

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    The swedish government has monopoly on gambling, and now u need a license and strict policies such as setting a "loss limit" and bank id verification et.c Mindark wouldent pay that and that resulted in the loot boxes got banned in Sweden. Government is not very reasonable here and i think the game could very well be in worst case scenario banned.

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    I got 100 euro for free and 200 spins. In stationary I often get free drinks and snacks. Everyone can see that you are just a cheap troll. Nobody can treat you seriously when you response to an argument "mehh you stoopid eu no casino bam bam"
    Deposit 100 and get 100 free and 200 spins then you loose it all in a few hour because of waggering . And you are the last person in this forum i want to take me serious . I bassicly dont give a shite about you and your opinion after reading your Open post .

    You are the kind of person that need mamy for simple life tasks

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