Entropia Universe 17.2 Release Notes

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Changes to item Tier Increase Rate (TIR)
  • All items now have a single TIR value, instead of one for each tier level.
  • For non-(L)imited items, the TIR value is always in the range of 1-200.
  • For (L)imited items, the TIR value is usually in the range of 1-200 but can reach as high as 4000.
  • Each point of TIR increases the base chance for an item to gain a minor tier increase by 0.5%. This means that an item with a TIR of 0 will gain tier increases at normal base speed, an item with a TIR of 100 gains tier increases 50% faster, and an item with a TIR of 200 gains tier increases 100% faster.
  • All existing items have had their new single TIR value set to the item’s highest remaining (unreached) TIR value. The result of this change is that all existing items have had their TIR value increased overall.
    For example, a Tier 5 item with the following remaining TIR values:
    Tier 6: 45
    Tier 7: 80
    Tier 8: 120
    Tier 9: 75
    Tier 10: 50
    will now have 120 as its new single TIR value.

Changes to tier increase probability
  • It is now possible to gain a minor tier increase of more than 0.01 from a single item use, if the chance of gaining an increase is higher than 100%. However, items cannot tier past a major tier in this way. For example: a (L)imited item with 4000 TIR, gaining 0.90 minor tiers on each use will go from 0.00 to 0.90 to 1.00, and can then go to 1.60 to 2.00 and so on. (note that the probability of gaining a minor tier decreases the higher the current tier of the item).
  • (L)imited items no longer trigger a sound effect when they gain a minor tier increase.
  • (L)imited items have had their difficulty curve for minor tier increases smoothed out. This change makes it easier to gain increases at higher item tiers, but slightly more difficult at lower item tiers. This change provides a more smooth and predictable item tiering progression. Tiering progression for non-(L)imited items has been adjusted in a similar way, but to a lesser extent.
  • (L)imited items no longer have a decreasing probability of gaining a minor tier increase as their Trade Terminal value decreases. (This was never the case for non-(L)imited items)
  • The base probability for gaining a tier increase for all items is now more proportional to the relevant parameters of the item type, and better accounts for reload speed. This results in items of the same type having more similar tier increase speeds and removes many of the extreme outlier items. This will also make it much more viable to tier many historically difficult-to-tier items, especially low level items.
  • The tier increase probability for non-(L)imited armor parts is now based on how likely each armor part is to get hit, resulting in all parts of a set of armor tiering at approximately the same base speed instead of having certain parts lag behind. Each armor part of course still has its own TIR, so the tier speed of any individual part may still be faster/slower than that of another. Note: this change does not apply to (L)imited armor parts, as their maximum tier potential is determined by their Trade Terminal value rather than the speed at which they gain tiers.
  • The probability for an armor part to gain a minor tier increase is now based on the amount of damage absorbed when hit. The closer the amount of damage absorbed is to the total protection of the armor part, the higher the chance to gain a minor tier increase. This change makes it faster to tier armor parts versus tougher enemies, while the total armor deterioration would remain the same against weaker enemies, making both options economically viable.
  • non-(L)imited excavators now gain minor tier increases at the same rate as weapons, (e.g. faster than they did in the past).

Enhancer changes
  • The chance for enhancers to break is now directly and linearly proportional to the benefit provided. Similar to how the old tier increase rate system resulted in many outliers that made some items very slow to tier up, the enhancer break chance calculation resulted in several strange outliers.
  • While the break chance was always influenced by the benefit provided to the item being enhanced, it has now been changed to be exactly proportional to the benefit provided, for all items. This means that a damage enhancer inserted into a low-damage item such as the Sollomate Opalo will have an extremely low chance of breaking, compared to one attached to a high-damage item such as the Unique Dub & McCormick Terminator.
  • This change also means that different items will have differing break rates for various enhancer types. For example, a high-damage, short-range shortblade will consume range enhancers much more slowly than damage enhancers.

Manufacturing Changes
  • Shrapnel has been added as a backfill resource for manufacturing, with a lower priority than residue. This means that manufacturing attempts on blueprints with very low Trade Terminal value inputs that previously would result in a “Failed” attempt if the resulting value was lower than 1 PEC (and therefore unable to loot 1 unit of residue) will now result in a “Near Success” and provide Shrapnel instead.
  • Small amounts of Shrapnel will also be included in manufacturing attempts on all blueprints that result in “Success” or “Near Success” for any remaining value below 1 PEC.
  • These changes will result in slightly better returns for manufacturing in general, and will be most noticeable for manufacturing attempts set to maximum quantity on blueprints with very low Trade Terminal value inputs.

Changes
  • Buff effects are now displayed in item tooltips.
  • Classified Strongboxes purchased from the webshop are no longer tradeable.
  • It is now possible to turn in attribute tokens in quantities that do not award a full attribute point, removing the need to keep these items in inventory or storage.
  • Heal per second information has been added to tooltips for healing tools.
  • Adjusted rewards and thresholds for the Ambulimax Codex.

Fixes
  • Fixed incorrect energy burn value for the M91 Stalker Augmented weapon.
  • Fixed an issue causing unexpected “This person cannot be a disciple” and other related error messages.
  • Fixed an issue causing boss mob damage deflection buffs not to deflect damage in all situations.
  • Server performance improvements and optimizations to better handle increased numbers of simultaneous participants.

MindArk and the Planet Partners strive to ensure a smooth and problem-free Version Update. Nevertheless, even after extensive testing some issues may arise after release. Such issues are often addressed via mini-patches directly after a release and in subsequent patches. If you feel that the possibility of encountering minor issues or bugs directly after a Version Update affects your gameplay to an extent that Entropia Universe is not enjoyable, please wait until the mini-patches have been released and any last minute issues have been resolved.


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Whoa, several years, and we finally might have the tiering system that we should have had since the beginning :beerchug:

Noice
 
Damn good changes on the first read , a lot to go through though and ya tiering has been steered in the right direction :thumbup:
 
No more Failed??? Tiering fixed? Woot :yay:
 
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Thanks for the long waited tiering update :)
 
"It is now possible to turn in attribute tokens in quantities that do not award a full attribute point, removing the need to keep these items in inventory or storage." This, I was waiting for this.

Other changes are also interesting, can't wait to see how crafting is gonna work now.
 
Manufacturing Changes
  • Shrapnel has been added as a backfill resource for manufacturing, with a lower priority than residue. This means that manufacturing attempts on blueprints with very low Trade Terminal value inputs that previously would result in a “Failed” attempt if the resulting value was lower than 1 PEC (and therefore unable to loot 1 unit of residue) will now result in a “Near Success” and provide Shrapnel instead.
  • Small amounts of Shrapnel will also be included in manufacturing attempts on all blueprints that result in “Success” or “Near Success” for any remaining value below 1 PEC.
  • These changes will result in slightly better returns for manufacturing in general, and will be most noticeable for manufacturing attempts set to maximum quantity on blueprints with very low Trade Terminal value inputs.

nice, a <0,1% TT-return increase... that certainly will make a 66% , 73%, 78% TT-return run a lot better...

as usual, hunters get very good changes and crafters get shit...:mad:
 
Very good VU, thanks for the tiering changes !!
 
nice, a <0,1% TT-return increase... that certainly will make a 66% , 73%, 78% TT-return run a lot better...

as usual, hunters get very good changes and crafters get shit...:mad:

Tiering changes are also good for crafters.
 
Wondering what weapon-stats are the reference. Meaning which weapon-stats will still feel exactly the same on enhancer burn
 
nice, a <0,1% TT-return increase... that certainly will make a 66% , 73%, 78% TT-return run a lot better...

as usual, hunters get very good changes and crafters get shit...:mad:

dont update
 
This thread is for discussing the VU release notes, not loot returns.

:topic:
 
Great update :cool:

Thank you MA
 
didn't fix the multiple "Failed" or lag
 
Looks great.
Finally new Tier system that looks nice. :)

And Attribut tokens.
How could I be unhappy whith this since I have no less than 99 Stamina tokens collecting dust in storage... :laugh:
They will scream "FreedooOoOoom !" :yay:
 
Will be intresting to se how this works ;) Hope for the best :wise:
 
"It is now possible to turn in attribute tokens in quantities that do not award a full attribute point, removing the need to keep these items in inventory or storage." This, I was waiting for this.

Other changes are also interesting, can't wait to see how crafting is gonna work now.

too bad the token trader accepts only stacks of 100 of or 1, so good luck handing in 99 tokens one at a time.

Support case sent, I'll wait to trade my stacks when I can do m all at once.
 
Changes to item Tier Increase Rate (TIR)
  • (L)imited items no longer trigger a sound effect when they gain a minor tier increase.
...

W00t!!!

:woot:
 
too bad the token trader accepts only stacks of 100 of or 1, so good luck handing in 99 tokens one at a time.

Support case sent, I'll wait to trade my stacks when I can do m all at once.

Ouch.
I hope it's not meant to be like this.

Maybe my 99 Stamina tokens will see their lockup sentence lengthened a bit.. :)
 
nice vu ONLY if you make opals and tier components drop again and punish market manipulators (talking about people buying all the OPALS to increase its mu )
 
The tier values stated on my chip are nothing like how this states it should be.

I am 87/200

And I had much higher tiers than 87, where I have been stuck for months.

For example, a Tier 5 item with the following remaining TIR values:
Tier 6: 45
Tier 7: 80
Tier 8: 120
Tier 9: 75
Tier 10: 50
will now have 120 as its new single TIR value.


87 was for certain not my highest TIR, and now there is no way to verify aside from old screenshots.

Disappointing, I have an item worth more than 100k peds which tiers like shit for life now, I made 150k peds this week in stock trades, and still cant get excited enough to deposit lol. Maybe one day they will understand how to make their customers happy.
 
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too bad the token trader accepts only stacks of 100 of or 1, so good luck handing in 99 tokens one at a time.

Support case sent, I'll wait to trade my stacks when I can do m all at once.

Let's hope it's a bug that's going to be fixed, it doesn't look like it was meant to be like that. Imagine coming to the token trader with 99 tokens and he's like "do want to play a game?"
 
Looks great.
Finally new Tier system that looks nice. :)

And Attribut tokens.
How could I be unhappy whith this since I have no less than 99 Stamina tokens collecting dust in storage... :laugh:
They will scream "FreedooOoOoom !" :yay:

But stamina wont help u unless u get +1 points since u cant work it with normal progress, only via tokens.
While agility and others can be gained with normal avtivity :cool:
 
The tier values stated on my chip are nothing like how this states it should be.

I am 87/200

And I had much higher tiers than 87, where I have been stuck for months.

For example, a Tier 5 item with the following remaining TIR values:
Tier 6: 45
Tier 7: 80
Tier 8: 120
Tier 9: 75
Tier 10: 50
will now have 120 as its new single TIR value.


87 was for certain not my highest TIR, and now there is no way to verify aside from old screenshots.

Disappointing, I have an item worth more than 100k peds which tiers like shit for life now, I made 150k peds this week in stock trades, and still cant get excited enough to deposit lol. Maybe one day they will understand how to make their customers happy.

As seen in the example, only remaining tier rates were taken into account for single TIR value
 
Holy cow! This is amazing work. The thought and planning that went into this sounds huge.
It all sounds like really great changes.

Also : It is now possible to turn in attribute tokens in quantities that do not award a full attribute point, removing the need to keep these items in inventory or storage.

YES! Well done there too.

Thanks!
 
A very nice update.
Good job.
 
The tier values stated on my chip are nothing like how this states it should be.

I am 87/200

And I had much higher tiers than 87, where I have been stuck for months.

For example, a Tier 5 item with the following remaining TIR values:
Tier 6: 45
Tier 7: 80
Tier 8: 120
Tier 9: 75
Tier 10: 50
will now have 120 as its new single TIR value.


87 was for certain not my highest TIR, and now there is no way to verify aside from old screenshots.

Disappointing, I have an item worth more than 100k peds which tiers like shit for life now, I made 150k peds this week in stock trades, and still cant get excited enough to deposit lol. Maybe one day they will understand how to make their customers happy.

can you just send a support case then complain if its not fixed ?
 
Looks good to me :) :wtg: just updating; 5min left >_<
 
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