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    Liquidity isn't invested in precious metals because of a fear of hyperinflation, it's generally done because the fear of falling asset values on stocks, even bonds.

    Generally investors would switch to bonds (mainly gilts, gov bonds) in times of economic trouble. But there's so much liquidity out there right now, that investors are buying negative interest rate gilts. That is; they're paying governments to take their cash....crazy right.

    So this is part reason for massive fast recovery on stock markets, as there's so much liquidity. Moving back into shares, as economic risk reduces.

    There might be a lot of struggling people, but just imagine how much spare cash the middle classes have, still being paid to work from home, but no where to spend it for 3 months. Not even any commuting costs.

    People are pumping billions into funds managers right now, or doing it themselves. With nations falling over themselves to print cash to support economic recovery, pushing up asset values even more (lower risk).

    I mentioned a month or so ago, you could make an ATH x100 on stocks with relative ease, for those that didn't follow a total doom scenario.

    What will be interesting is if stocks surpass pre covid highs, not because companies are worth that value, but because the perception of value and demand pushes it to those values. Where else is the money going to go?

    For those that think I talk poo, I've put everything I have on the market. Once in a lifetime opportunity. Doing very well, but not got any liquid cash right now. Might be forced to take some profit soon, to pay some bills haha.

    It's not hard to best any game ATH, in the real world.

    From hyperinflation concern, wont happen. That's another long read, although you might be bored already.

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    I think corned beef and bottled water are good investments, but what do I know?

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    Liquidity isn't invested in precious metals because of a fear of hyperinflation, it's generally done because the fear of falling asset values on stocks, even bonds.

    Generally investors would switch to bonds (mainly gilts, gov bonds) in times of economic trouble. But there's so much liquidity out there right now, that investors are buying negative interest rate gilts. That is; they're paying governments to take their cash....crazy right.

    So this is part reason for massive fast recovery on stock markets, as there's so much liquidity. Moving back into shares, as economic risk reduces.

    There might be a lot of struggling people, but just imagine how much spare cash the middle classes have, still being paid to work from home, but no where to spend it for 3 months. Not even any commuting costs.

    People are pumping billions into funds managers right now, or doing it themselves. With nations falling over themselves to print cash to support economic recovery, pushing up asset values even more (lower risk).

    I mentioned a month or so ago, you could make an ATH x100 on stocks with relative ease, for those that didn't follow a total doom scenario.

    What will be interesting is if stocks surpass pre covid highs, not because companies are worth that value, but because the perception of value and demand pushes it to those values. Where else is the money going to go?

    For those that think I talk poo, I've put everything I have on the market. Once in a lifetime opportunity. Doing very well, but not got any liquid cash right now. Might be forced to take some profit soon, to pay some bills haha.

    It's not hard to best any game ATH, in the real world.

    From hyperinflation concern, wont happen. That's another long read, although you might be bored already.

    Rick.
    most big names in the business are saying that there will be another hard crash before it recovers. so i wouldnt exactly call it a once in a lifetime situation. crypto would be better for that.

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    most big names in the business are saying that there will be another hard crash before it recovers. so i wouldnt exactly call it a once in a lifetime situation. crypto would be better for that.
    Crypto has it's fans, personally I wouldn't put my life savings into an unregulated currency with no asset to back it up. If i bought a bank share for example, I 'own' part of that bank. Then add in gov backed bank debt, and it's like win-win situation. Well you know...Govs did shut the world down, it's their risk afterall. Funny stuff.

    None of these big named brokers no what's going on, there's not been a government backed world shut down ever before. While the money keeps going in, shares will keep rising. The smart people are the brave investors. Even so, theres a ton of undervalue in the markets right now. Even on firms that suspended divs, auto bounce on those stocks when divs restart.
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    Yup it wouldn't hurt to make a nice pile of diverse. 100$ each of gold, silver, bitcoin, ltc, doges, xrp, beans, rice, corned beef, toilet paper, ammo, gasoline, batteries, plywood, plastic sheets, nails, duct tape, machetes, water...

    xrp just in case since its the cias crypto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GxB View Post
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    most big names in the business are saying that there will be another hard crash before it recovers. so i wouldnt exactly call it a once in a lifetime situation. crypto would be better for that.
    In my opinion crypto currency will never be a thing, exactly for trust reasons, which are fundamental to the money concept and which paradoxically crypto hopes to enforce.

    That being said, as technology, I would say we're barely scratching the surface, the future will absolutely see some sort of worldwide scale-usage of these autonomous registries, but not necessarly in the financial sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerham View Post
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    In my opinion crypto currency will never be a thing, exactly for trust reasons, which are fundamental to the money concept and which paradoxically crypto hopes to enforce.

    That being said, as technology, I would say we're barely scratching the surface, the future will absolutely see some sort of worldwide scale-usage of these autonomous registries, but not necessarly in the financial sector.
    This is the point of my post. The trust level of fiat money is based on hot air. Blockchain inherently eliminates the need for trust since it's a ledger.

    point 1 trust:

    gold-gains-fed-qe-commitment-crashes-dollar

    This chart is the same as trust level vs fiat imo. The fact that it's useless without the internet is equal to having nowhere to sell your gold in the same SHTF scenario. Both can't be eaten or shot. You can't endlessly print gold or bitcoin. You do know about the fed printing trillions, right?

    point 2 blockchain:

    microsoft-releases-bitcoin-based-id-tool-as-covid-19-passports-draw-criticism

    Here we got one of the worlds most sinister organizations preparing to present a solution to a problem that never even exsisted. If, on the other hand, they will blockchain politicians, policemen, ngo's first then maybe it might be workable.

    If point 2 comes to pass, point 1 will be useless. It just might be that the elites vision of our future as autonomous slaves has no money.

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    My 'jokey' reply was above.

    The only real currency is highlighted in this film. It should make everyone consider if they are making the best use out of it.

    Or just enjoy it for the good Sci-Fi film it is.

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    In my opinion crypto currency will never be a thing, exactly for trust reasons, which are fundamental to the money concept and which paradoxically crypto hopes to enforce.

    That being said, as technology, I would say we're barely scratching the surface, the future will absolutely see some sort of worldwide scale-usage of these autonomous registries, but not necessarly in the financial sector.
    thats the thing. fiat needs trust in the government, which in case of the us means trust in donald trump (hoho).
    crypto doesnt need trust. you only need to trust yourself. everything else is completely transparent. thats why hackers usually have a hard time doing anything with the money, as the stolen funds get flagged and its game over for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloisius View Post
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    This is the point of my post. The trust level of fiat money is based on hot air. Blockchain inherently eliminates the need for trust since it's a ledger.

    point 1 trust:

    gold-gains-fed-qe-commitment-crashes-dollar

    This chart is the same as trust level vs fiat imo. The fact that it's useless without the internet is equal to having nowhere to sell your gold in the same SHTF scenario. Both can't be eaten or shot. You can't endlessly print gold or bitcoin. You do know about the fed printing trillions, right?

    point 2 blockchain:

    microsoft-releases-bitcoin-based-id-tool-as-covid-19-passports-draw-criticism

    Here we got one of the worlds most sinister organizations preparing to present a solution to a problem that never even exsisted. If, on the other hand, they will blockchain politicians, policemen, ngo's first then maybe it might be workable.

    If point 2 comes to pass, point 1 will be useless. It just might be that the elites vision of our future as autonomous slaves has no money.

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