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ASHAMING HUNTING ANNUAL TT RETURN
The Broken Window Theory: A Broken window in a fine neighborhood immediately shows that the standard in that neighborhood has lowered and suggest that everyone else might be affected.
In this scenario i am that broken window.
I have been playing Akon TrusT Konvicted since its creation in late March 2007.
Today Akon have 292 natural hp and a well hunting balanced avatar (sold little but valuable hp skills recently to maintain), i can pretty much use any type of melee/mf untill around 55-70 hit/dmg, my main profession lays in the 85 90+ laser and blp (including handgun), 94.5 rifle and 98+ ranged dmg, with 63 evader.
48 animal. 40 mutant and 33 robot looter.
In old system i believe i was doing somewhat ok in hunting, not succesfull not a heavy loser either, just acceptable monthly loss, then came the introduction of the loot 2.0 and further more the addition of the looter professions.
Ever since i actively hunted in the loot 2.0 and looters professions my return have been horrible, like 2007-2012ish ugly unconsistant loot and perpetual big losses.
As a reminder for everyone, here are the official notes about the loot changes if you want to discuss em or help.
Loot 2.0:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bulletin/buzz/2017/06/08/Developer-Notes--11---Loot-2.0.xml?
Loot 2.0 profession:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bu...Developer-Notes--12---Loot-2.0-Follow-Up.xml?
Loot 2.0 statistics:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bu...eveloper-Notes--13---Loot-2.0-Statistics.xml?
Loot 2.0 Update:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bulletin/buzz/2017/09/27/Developer-Notes--14---Loot-2.0-Update.xml?
I wasn't hyped at all with these changes, i knew it would be a rebalance in the global loot size and hit frequency (loot 2.0 update), possibly a throw back in time where all effort to skill up to a standard would be ruined and forces starting over shooting little mob/maturity like in early days, change gear and specialize to get optimal loot.
The first years i wasn't focused in hunting as a primary profession but was still active, i failed to aquire much skills in looting, maybe just a few level for casual hunting, the hunting return seemed nearly acceptable, i had some very bad runs but it was sustainable.
In early 2019 and due to change in my professional career i had to take somewhat of a real break from the game.
Here's the reason for the thread:
I came back in June 2019, To the Mul's dance ritual period, exactly a year ago.
I became more than a randomly casual hunter and as always i was killing AND looting MANUALLY every single mob severals hours a day straight, cycling several K ped. (2 to 5 hours shooting a day)(i almost never use a loot pill)(i like to check on my surrounding).
Things that bother me the most are the long period of droughts (days without global, several K peds shot, needless to mention a hall of famer, this thing is nearly a myth for me in 2.0), so either without any global or very low value ones, resulting in most situation in a negative run.
Countless times i am farming a mob for hours/days, with nothing but hard losses, a random hunter pop by, kill less than 5 mobs and gets a very large swirls, sometimes 4 digits, few times several in a row, the best exemple was DannyO jumping to my area on Eomon and swirl back to back while i'm helpless trying to save the run, shit literally happens day after day, or recently on warrens, Niteflite hit 7.9k after less than 5 mobs killed, next few days same scenario with Jo hitting 1k+ on first mob (just to mention a few different scenarion that comes to mind, plenty more happend), this leave a manual hunter puzzled.
That being said, Nothing cool ever happens in my early kills of the run, some loots to put you in a confortable position for the rest of the hunt or the day, i always have to shoot more and more without a mini or a swirl, always put me to a significant loss first, to finally recover a bit for the ongoing run and most of the time its just dry, it feels i can never hit anything large enough, a hot spot with many swirls maybe and definitely never hit anything in a early run/jumping to an area like some manages to get away with.
They like to advertise a TT return above 90%, closer to 95%. This is where the broken window takes effect.
I have met my patience threshold with the massive loss i have to deal with currently.
AS OF TODAY:
I have an hunting TT return way under the average with between 450.000 and 500.000 PED cycled.
In 2020 i had 0 4digits loot. 2 best by far are 650ped on b of warren and a dasp young
I hear the horde saying i should probably cycle more.
I have cycled enough to see 65000-70000 PED vanish from my account (from this year period deposit and previous assets sold), just hunting this year in a period from June 2019 to June 2020.
Feel free to do the math yourself for the shittiest scenario, i'll keep going with the best one for the sake of the game..
69% to 77% in best case scenario
I hunt the same range of mobs i have always been able to hunt, with a large spectrum of weapons available at my level, L and UL.
From 55% to 90%+ efficiency. almost always above 60% often the same UL weapon and amp.
Nothing works L, UL, No life steal, life steal, ring, no ring, armor or not, even 90 Efficiency with best combo has not showed magic return numbers.
Heading back to the Trade terminal with 1400ish ped out of a 2000ped ammo run is something common for me, not counting decay, ofc i have often seen worse. this is my average.
Like i said i'm not a professional hunter that looks automated shooting 24/7 (shout out to the real hunter out there), i manually click between mobs, i heal myself manually when needed, mostly between mobs and i loot manually, untill recently when i started to consume the autopills i looted over the years on strongboxes by hoping to see a change. 3 days pills are not to be swallowed...
Many of you would like exact precise numbers spent, i dont have the discipline to track every single run and my return exactly to the last pec markup included, i have data, but i have a somewhat clear range of TT spent VS PED loss mentioned above, i unfortunately can not provide the exact number to the exact percentage, i even asked for details from support departement with no success.
The support department has a policy that doesnt allow them to give the TT return, which is a lack of transparency imo, i'm unable to get those number from them or atleast 3 months numbers which were actually very bad like the rest of the year.
3 months TT return which have been given to other avatars with far much better TT return like officially advertised than the poor return i am getting constantly. Nothing to be proud of from the support than to give a player such bad numbers.
They stated everything was in order with my avatar.
Exemple:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...onse-on-Bad-Loot-and-my-MA-tracked-91-Returns
I fall in the category of the broken window, those who do not meet the advertised standard of the house (i'm sure i am not the only one, is there an MA employee that don't like me or don't play by the rule? (the doubt)), so called above 90%, near 95% and ofc near TT for a player with assistance (call it a bot or a friend, members of family).
For someone to lose this much there has to be someone else out there picking up the loot, or has the house gotten greedier and standard changed?
Perma automated hunters are the criminal in this scenario or is it the house, they break window daily, the average player gets literally dryed out, with no chances of getting the head out the water and suffocate to the inevitable drowning.
What happend to the advertised High 95%+ TT return they proudly advetised and the so called lower cost to play?
Isn't it time to ban these automated hunting actions?
We are looking in my case at an average of 5000 PED per months to play this game...
Trully yours.
ATTK.
The Broken Window Theory: A Broken window in a fine neighborhood immediately shows that the standard in that neighborhood has lowered and suggest that everyone else might be affected.
In this scenario i am that broken window.
I have been playing Akon TrusT Konvicted since its creation in late March 2007.
Today Akon have 292 natural hp and a well hunting balanced avatar (sold little but valuable hp skills recently to maintain), i can pretty much use any type of melee/mf untill around 55-70 hit/dmg, my main profession lays in the 85 90+ laser and blp (including handgun), 94.5 rifle and 98+ ranged dmg, with 63 evader.
48 animal. 40 mutant and 33 robot looter.
In old system i believe i was doing somewhat ok in hunting, not succesfull not a heavy loser either, just acceptable monthly loss, then came the introduction of the loot 2.0 and further more the addition of the looter professions.
Ever since i actively hunted in the loot 2.0 and looters professions my return have been horrible, like 2007-2012ish ugly unconsistant loot and perpetual big losses.
As a reminder for everyone, here are the official notes about the loot changes if you want to discuss em or help.
Loot 2.0:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bulletin/buzz/2017/06/08/Developer-Notes--11---Loot-2.0.xml?
Loot 2.0 profession:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bu...Developer-Notes--12---Loot-2.0-Follow-Up.xml?
Loot 2.0 statistics:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bu...eveloper-Notes--13---Loot-2.0-Statistics.xml?
Loot 2.0 Update:
https://www.entropiauniverse.com/bulletin/buzz/2017/09/27/Developer-Notes--14---Loot-2.0-Update.xml?
I wasn't hyped at all with these changes, i knew it would be a rebalance in the global loot size and hit frequency (loot 2.0 update), possibly a throw back in time where all effort to skill up to a standard would be ruined and forces starting over shooting little mob/maturity like in early days, change gear and specialize to get optimal loot.
The first years i wasn't focused in hunting as a primary profession but was still active, i failed to aquire much skills in looting, maybe just a few level for casual hunting, the hunting return seemed nearly acceptable, i had some very bad runs but it was sustainable.
In early 2019 and due to change in my professional career i had to take somewhat of a real break from the game.
Here's the reason for the thread:
I came back in June 2019, To the Mul's dance ritual period, exactly a year ago.
I became more than a randomly casual hunter and as always i was killing AND looting MANUALLY every single mob severals hours a day straight, cycling several K ped. (2 to 5 hours shooting a day)(i almost never use a loot pill)(i like to check on my surrounding).
Things that bother me the most are the long period of droughts (days without global, several K peds shot, needless to mention a hall of famer, this thing is nearly a myth for me in 2.0), so either without any global or very low value ones, resulting in most situation in a negative run.
Countless times i am farming a mob for hours/days, with nothing but hard losses, a random hunter pop by, kill less than 5 mobs and gets a very large swirls, sometimes 4 digits, few times several in a row, the best exemple was DannyO jumping to my area on Eomon and swirl back to back while i'm helpless trying to save the run, shit literally happens day after day, or recently on warrens, Niteflite hit 7.9k after less than 5 mobs killed, next few days same scenario with Jo hitting 1k+ on first mob (just to mention a few different scenarion that comes to mind, plenty more happend), this leave a manual hunter puzzled.
That being said, Nothing cool ever happens in my early kills of the run, some loots to put you in a confortable position for the rest of the hunt or the day, i always have to shoot more and more without a mini or a swirl, always put me to a significant loss first, to finally recover a bit for the ongoing run and most of the time its just dry, it feels i can never hit anything large enough, a hot spot with many swirls maybe and definitely never hit anything in a early run/jumping to an area like some manages to get away with.
They like to advertise a TT return above 90%, closer to 95%. This is where the broken window takes effect.
I have met my patience threshold with the massive loss i have to deal with currently.
AS OF TODAY:
I have an hunting TT return way under the average with between 450.000 and 500.000 PED cycled.
In 2020 i had 0 4digits loot. 2 best by far are 650ped on b of warren and a dasp young
I hear the horde saying i should probably cycle more.
I have cycled enough to see 65000-70000 PED vanish from my account (from this year period deposit and previous assets sold), just hunting this year in a period from June 2019 to June 2020.
Feel free to do the math yourself for the shittiest scenario, i'll keep going with the best one for the sake of the game..
69% to 77% in best case scenario
I hunt the same range of mobs i have always been able to hunt, with a large spectrum of weapons available at my level, L and UL.
From 55% to 90%+ efficiency. almost always above 60% often the same UL weapon and amp.
Nothing works L, UL, No life steal, life steal, ring, no ring, armor or not, even 90 Efficiency with best combo has not showed magic return numbers.
Heading back to the Trade terminal with 1400ish ped out of a 2000ped ammo run is something common for me, not counting decay, ofc i have often seen worse. this is my average.
Like i said i'm not a professional hunter that looks automated shooting 24/7 (shout out to the real hunter out there), i manually click between mobs, i heal myself manually when needed, mostly between mobs and i loot manually, untill recently when i started to consume the autopills i looted over the years on strongboxes by hoping to see a change. 3 days pills are not to be swallowed...
Many of you would like exact precise numbers spent, i dont have the discipline to track every single run and my return exactly to the last pec markup included, i have data, but i have a somewhat clear range of TT spent VS PED loss mentioned above, i unfortunately can not provide the exact number to the exact percentage, i even asked for details from support departement with no success.
The support department has a policy that doesnt allow them to give the TT return, which is a lack of transparency imo, i'm unable to get those number from them or atleast 3 months numbers which were actually very bad like the rest of the year.
3 months TT return which have been given to other avatars with far much better TT return like officially advertised than the poor return i am getting constantly. Nothing to be proud of from the support than to give a player such bad numbers.
They stated everything was in order with my avatar.
Exemple:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...onse-on-Bad-Loot-and-my-MA-tracked-91-Returns
I fall in the category of the broken window, those who do not meet the advertised standard of the house (i'm sure i am not the only one, is there an MA employee that don't like me or don't play by the rule? (the doubt)), so called above 90%, near 95% and ofc near TT for a player with assistance (call it a bot or a friend, members of family).
For someone to lose this much there has to be someone else out there picking up the loot, or has the house gotten greedier and standard changed?
Perma automated hunters are the criminal in this scenario or is it the house, they break window daily, the average player gets literally dryed out, with no chances of getting the head out the water and suffocate to the inevitable drowning.
What happend to the advertised High 95%+ TT return they proudly advetised and the so called lower cost to play?
Isn't it time to ban these automated hunting actions?
We are looking in my case at an average of 5000 PED per months to play this game...
Trully yours.
ATTK.
