John B Knight
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Hello, here is another of my old support cases from 5 years ago which i thought to put up for public discussion and more community/mindark awareness in the age of #yoggate - if we fix bugs that effect the playerbase in events can we please also fix bugs that effect universal means of transport ?
History for support case 298015:
2015-02-16 11:05 You wrote:
Hello, im reporting this design issue as a bug as i think its a way to surpass the weight limitations the 'quadwing equus' was designed with for spacetravel.
There is a way to use antigrav containers by stacking them inside each other to achieve effectively unlimited weight carrying capabilities and i know that some equus owners have started using this to bypass the given weight limits for warp and subwarp flights.
Example based on Lux Special Armor Luggage/Lux Second Armor Luggage:
Weight of container:1.5 kg / antigravity factor 0.8
stacking them inside each other leads to the following scaled down weight:
1.5
1.2
0.96
0.768
0.6144
0.49152
0.393216
0.3145728
0.25165824
0.201326592
0.161061274
0.128849019
0.103079215
0.082463372
0.065970698
0.527765581
0.042221247
0.033776997
0.027021598
0.021617278
0.017293823
0.013835058
0.011068046
0.008854437
0.00708355
0.00566684 kg
This means that on the 6th level its already possible to transport 300kg while staying within the limitations operate an equus without being slowed down or not capable to warp.
As the containers get stacked deeper and deeper this increases to an unlimited possibility of weight reduction.
The sales of lux containers has already started to go up since the sales of the equus started and as more and more owners get to know the possibilities of weight reductions.
Unlimited weight transport capabilties on equus mean essentially that alot vip warp flight bussiness will be conducted utilizing equus and their affordable unlimited warp drives while privateers and motherships are not capable to compete.
My suggestion is to either disable antigrav containers for use in space or to remove the possibility of stacking them inside each other - or to just deactivate their antigrav factor while in space.
If weight is going to be an important factor in space transports in the future it will be important to remove weight limitation bypasses early on for the balance of the game.
Kind regards
John
2015-02-16 11:09 You wrote:
This is also not just effecting the balance between equus / privateers and motherships it also allows vast amounts of goods to be transported between planets without risk and while bypassing the universal auction system and therefor not paying any fees to move goods between planets.
2015-02-17 15:27 Entropia Universe Support:
Hi Black,
Thank you for your report, we will investigate and change this accordingly should we confirm this behavior (which with your information we most likely will).
Take care and best of luck in the meanwhile.
Kind regards,
Ulf | Entropia Universe Support
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Thanks in advance for your consideration.
Kind regards
John
History for support case 298015:
2015-02-16 11:05 You wrote:
Hello, im reporting this design issue as a bug as i think its a way to surpass the weight limitations the 'quadwing equus' was designed with for spacetravel.
There is a way to use antigrav containers by stacking them inside each other to achieve effectively unlimited weight carrying capabilities and i know that some equus owners have started using this to bypass the given weight limits for warp and subwarp flights.
Example based on Lux Special Armor Luggage/Lux Second Armor Luggage:
Weight of container:1.5 kg / antigravity factor 0.8
stacking them inside each other leads to the following scaled down weight:
1.5
1.2
0.96
0.768
0.6144
0.49152
0.393216
0.3145728
0.25165824
0.201326592
0.161061274
0.128849019
0.103079215
0.082463372
0.065970698
0.527765581
0.042221247
0.033776997
0.027021598
0.021617278
0.017293823
0.013835058
0.011068046
0.008854437
0.00708355
0.00566684 kg
This means that on the 6th level its already possible to transport 300kg while staying within the limitations operate an equus without being slowed down or not capable to warp.
As the containers get stacked deeper and deeper this increases to an unlimited possibility of weight reduction.
The sales of lux containers has already started to go up since the sales of the equus started and as more and more owners get to know the possibilities of weight reductions.
Unlimited weight transport capabilties on equus mean essentially that alot vip warp flight bussiness will be conducted utilizing equus and their affordable unlimited warp drives while privateers and motherships are not capable to compete.
My suggestion is to either disable antigrav containers for use in space or to remove the possibility of stacking them inside each other - or to just deactivate their antigrav factor while in space.
If weight is going to be an important factor in space transports in the future it will be important to remove weight limitation bypasses early on for the balance of the game.
Kind regards
John
2015-02-16 11:09 You wrote:
This is also not just effecting the balance between equus / privateers and motherships it also allows vast amounts of goods to be transported between planets without risk and while bypassing the universal auction system and therefor not paying any fees to move goods between planets.
2015-02-17 15:27 Entropia Universe Support:
Hi Black,
Thank you for your report, we will investigate and change this accordingly should we confirm this behavior (which with your information we most likely will).
Take care and best of luck in the meanwhile.
Kind regards,
Ulf | Entropia Universe Support
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
Kind regards
John