Why is this allowed?

[Sapeian]

I think most people replying to this thread are trying to get answers to a very real issue, COI. Not to throw stones at ND or Tina.

Your kidding me right?

Have we read the same thread?

 

[Kitty]

Your kidding me right?

Have we read the same thread?

Well, I want answers. And all my posts in this thread have been about that.
As for ND, I am sure being in the public eye for so long, he has a very thick skin and understands some people have their own issues and doesn't let it bother him.
But I could be wrong...

 

[safara]

My post was direct and to the point and I cannot simply expand further on it,

Tries to keep his lost mrs avatar alive perhapse for some memory?

Have you read through this thread Sapien? You do need to ignore a lot of emotionally driven posts and concentrate on the calm facts.

As far as Tina goes, ND posted himself, in a lovely thread that MA had stipulated that he retire her, and she "went to the club". There were many fine thoughts and comments in the thread, as it was a fitting send off to her.

Thread is here in case you have not been following - https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...?50278-Island-Girl-goes-quot-To-the-Club-quot

This is nothing to do with "having a go" - it simply a thread that is questioning the practices of Planet Partners, and what they are or are not allowed to do. If a Planet Partner Player is allowed to break direct rules, as proven, then what other rules is this Planet Partner Player breaking.

 

[mastermesh]

And you lynch him? Why? Is everyone Jealous of him?

What we are simply doing is asking that the rules be clarified and enforced so that they don't keep getting bent.

 

[JJO]

What the flying fuck is wrong with half of you?
Really.

We're not starstruck. And by that I mean I have no reason to be either pro ND or Anti ND. I simply have observed a string of "discrepancies" which denote to me he gets preferential treatment.

Flinging mud at a dead woman, simply because someone wants to keep her memory alive?
Fuckin sick.

Not really, but I'll tell you the sick thing. When people shove their emotional attachments/memories on people who have nothing to do with it and expect them all to walk around all fucking widow like and morbid. I don't feel i need to respect/revere someone whom I did not know, simply cause they aren't alive any more! I don't flaunt my dead relatives here and expect people to bow a head in silence when the topic arises or get landmasses named after them. NO SPECIAL TREATMENT, dead or alive. I also know for a fact as more new people come in, less and less of the player-base will know or even care who was who in this game and for what reason.

Lets all just grow the fuck up and take our emotional shit to our private lives. Spare the rest the emotional blackmail that you evidently wish us all to subscribe to. It's a harsh world, people drop like flies, personally, I MOURNE people who made a difference in this world, like Einstein. Not people who played a game (since my reality check never goes offline). Loads of people in this game have died and WILL die, spare us the systematic virtual graveyarding please. Else we are always gonna have to go SOFTLY on people just cause someone they knew died. IMO that's what too many have done for too long with ND.

Not only that remember NEVERDIE started out just like anyone else.
He should be booted from the community just because he made it.

But he had some "help" from the inside and still seems to be allowed to float a few steps above the rest. If rules can't be enforced, why do they even exist?

Fuck you all.

Andy.

No, fuck injustice and conformity! Those are the true plagues of EU society.

 

[Sapeian]

Ok so what do you all expect him to do, Not play at all?

Don't you think it's a good thing he comes in, speaks to people and gets involved?
I don't think for a second he has used his avatar once to exploit anything imho,

Sure he has had some globals.. so what,
What about the Millions of dollars he has spent on the creation of these planets,
Makes a couple globals seem a bit insignificant?

To be perfectly honest with you,
I don't see, "We want the rules clarifyed" or " ND is bending the rules, Do somthing",

All I am seeing is, "Neverdie got some globals, and he's a planet partner, Oh no lets lynch him on the forums, and dig as much dirt on him as possible."

Granted not all of you have,
But alot of these posts have been very backstabby and just instigating trouble imho.

If some people think what I said was rash/out of turn,
Fine.

But simply going after someone like this is unreal,

I dont ever remember anyone going this nuts when there was a serrious problem with a player at swamp camp 3 years ago being incredibly racist, even the avatar name its self was.

Thats just one example but there is much more.

alot of you posting are far from being shining examples of decent people.

Imho, you think someone is breaking the rules, Send a support case.
Why drag that persons name through the mud,

Neverdie might have a thick enough skin to ignore or brush off alot of comments he perhapse gets,
But that still doesnt mean people have to be that harsh,


My own personal opinion on it should be this.

Rocktropia forum should be on Rocktropia.com, Not Neverdie.com.
Club Neverdie should be on Rocktropia as it fits with more of a musical Genre,

I also think that if people really have such a big problem with ND playing then his avatar should be made an official one that can control the planet correctly.

And im sure that alot of people at FPC, MA have their own avatars to play with, just none knows them,

So with that, He could have an official avatar, but still play as normal as ND.

Why is that so wrong, Why is that hurting people.


One more thing, Why is FPC allowed to create Events, And be able to implement things like, Christmas Gifts, or Special Prizes,

Yet the first planet partner with two planets in game isnt.

If MA should answer anything, it should be that.

Andy.


@JJO, I diddnt see your post,
Fine, Ill accept that it is a logical and fair point.

I don't think he is just "floating Above" anyone, I think it has alot to do with the millions he has invested into EU,
And even now like I said above isnt given the right to moderate his planet to implement what he wants to implement.

How can his planets even keep up with the likes of Calypso if he cant actually do anything with them.

Fair enough I can see some points,
If he is able to moderate his planets, Then he could be accused of abusing that.
Fair enough, Many people here have tinfoil hats that would quickly jump on anything even remotly pointing that way.

So perhapse then it is best in order to step forward that neverdie hangs up his avatar.
before someone hangs him.

I still don't think it would be fair though.
He has just as much right to play this game as anyone else,
And keeping him under scrutiny like this is just harsh.

 

[Lavawalker]

Still no reply to emails to investor relations or David Simmonds as of yet.
I do not expect to hear from them until the new year.

ADDED: Direct correspondence via email with David Simmonds > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...this-allowed&p=2636224&viewfull=1#post2636224

So to bring everyone up to speed on this case study and thread,

1. We currently have 4 perceived conflcits of interest looming.

Conflicts of Interest perceived > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...this-allowed&p=2634273&viewfull=1#post2634273
Support Case for answers > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...this-allowed&p=2634961&viewfull=1#post2634961
Direct correspondence via email with Investor relations & David Simmonds > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...this-allowed&p=2636224&viewfull=1#post2636224

2. Island girl avatar that was retired by MA has been revived again.

3. Taliesin, NeverDie's son does not meet the age requirements to play the game.

The Entropia Universe Account Terms of Use (ToU) clearly states the following:

1. Age Requirements

If You are under the age of 18 please note -
To qualify as an Entropia Universe Participant, You must be at least 18 years old. If You are not 18 years old but you are at least 13 years old, You may still apply for an Entropia Universe Account, but only with approval of Your parent or guardian.

This applies to ND's son Taliesin, he is only 10 years old, and he is a member of the Rock Stars society under Force's wing, and is being trained in PvP combat. His son's avatar name is "RobotBoy"

So 2 infractions and 4 perceived Conflict of Interest infractions.

Rules are rules, facts are facts and the rest perceived we are still waiting answers on.

Please keep the thread clean, it is not about bashing ND, even though some rules have been broken,

It is about transparency in finding out what the rules & regulations are and how these rules & regulations impact the perceived conflicts of interest loomingfor ND and any partner present or future.

 

[pipeboy]

If i were a bigshot planet owner and stuff i'd come to this suuuper long thread and promise to donate all my loot and my staff members loot to charity and save 50 people from early onset finger arthritis and eyestrain

 

[Sapeian]

Still no reply to emails to investor relations or David Simmonds as of yet.
I do not expect to hear from them until the new year.

ADDED: Direct correspondence via email with David Simmonds > https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...this-allowed&p=2636224&viewfull=1#post2636224



Please keep the thread clean, it is not about bashing ND, even though some rules have been broken,

It is about transparency in finding out what the rules & regulations are and how these rules & regulations impact the perceived conflicts of interest loomingfor ND and any partner present or future.

All be it a powefull opinion on my behalf, Quite simply because I think it's sad how a community can turn on each other like this.

It's sad.

But do what you gotta do.

Andy.

 

[Lavawalker]

All be it a powefull opinion on my behalf, Quite simply because I think it's sad how a community can turn on each other like this.

It's sad.

But do what you gotta do.

Andy.

It is just finding out what the company policy sets are and what the regulatory situation is for partners.

You need to remember ND is only one player in a larger playing field, we also have Ozi coming in and others who would like answers to these questions also.

As long as all partners have the same token and rulebook to operate by and there are not conflicts of interest threatening the integrity of the financial environment then all is fine.

I for one am not here to bash ND, not saying I like or dislike the guy, just finding out what the clear cut company policies & regulations are.

The rest can be judged later. I have summarised what the thread is about and people have valid concerns.
Island girl and Robotboy are secondary issues imo, not what I am primarily addressing which is Conflicts of Interest in the financial real cash environment.

No malice my side, just fair play by the rules.

 

[Sapeian]

It is just finding out what the company policy sets are and what the regulatory situation is for partners.

You need to remember ND is only one player in a larger playing field, we also have Ozi coming in and others who would like answers to these questions also.

As long as all partners have the same token and rulebook to operate by and there are not conflicts of interest threatening the integrity of the financial environment then all is fine.

I for one am not here to bash ND, not saying I like or dislike the guy, just finding out what the clear cut company policies & regulations are.

The rest can be judged later. I have summarised what the thread is about and people have valid concerns.
Island girl and Robotboy are secondary issues imo, not what I am primarily addressing which is Conflicts of Interest in the financial real cash environment.

No malice my side, just fair play by the rules.

I hear what your saying I do,
And fine, you have prooved that rules are in breach.

But I honestly belive that alot of this has come about through some hidden agenda,
A witch hunt if you will, There is more to this, not just a case of some Minor rules broken.

Andy.

 

[Lavawalker]

I hear what your saying I do,
And fine, you have prooved that rules are in breach.

But I honestly belive that alot of this has come about through some hidden agenda,
A witch hunt if you will, There is more to this, not just a case of some Minor rules broken.

Andy.

I agree, where there is doubt in peoples minds there will be bias.
It is the doubt we are trying to clear which will give a clear indication if bias is justified or not.

 

[burnsey]

I hear what your saying I do,
And fine, you have prooved that rules are in breach.

But I honestly belive that alot of this has come about through some hidden agenda,
A witch hunt if you will, There is more to this, not just a case of some Minor rules broken.

Andy.

It's a conspiracy, man

 

[Sapeian]

It's a conspiracy, man

You can't tell me that all 74 of these pages have been full of constructive comments,
Mine were not exactly constructive, but it has been a perfect chance for those who hate neverdie to get their 2 pence in,

Alot of people here have a hidden agenda, and are very backstabby tbh.

Andy.

 

[Rockchick]

Alot of people here have a hidden agenda, and are very backstabby tbh.

Andy.

I think you are wrong, I think most are upset that people/ planet partners/ owners are breaking the rules, and that puts everyone else at a disadvantage.

 

[JJO]

Ok so what do you all expect him to do, Not play at all?

It's something which they even understand in africa. If you run a competition or an event where people can win prises, money, then you ban your employees, their relatives and friends and yourself from entering the competition, because if you EVER WIN (yes if), then you are utterly fucked in the public eye. The losses ND is going to suffer "if" he ever pulls a major ATH with special new items on his planet, are going to eclipse what he'd lose by just not gambling in his own room of the casino. He will suffer a public onslaught 10X the magnitude he suffered in this thread.

Don't you think it's a good thing he comes in, speaks to people and gets involved?
I don't think for a second he has used his avatar once to exploit anything imho,

Oh it is goon in the same way that Marco loggin in is good for Calypso, but then again he doesn't engage as a player, but as an official. So you trust him, but well I don't. But im not so forthright as to THINK anything of what he could or could not have done, I look at what others are stating, and the evidence they present.

Sure he has had some globals.. so what,
What about the Millions of dollars he has spent on the creation of these planets,
Makes a couple globals seem a bit insignificant?

If a casino owner won the largest jackpot it would PALE IN COMPARISON to what his start-up costs were, but it is still CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

To be perfectly honest with you,
I don't see, "We want the rules clarifyed" or " ND is bending the rules, Do somthing",

All I am seeing is, "Neverdie got some globals, and he's a planet partner, Oh no lets lynch him on the forums, and dig as much dirt on him as possible."

Then you are fucking blind, simple as that, or you have a selective memory and/or didn't read all the posts.

Granted not all of you have,

Ok self contradiction...

But alot of these posts have been very backstabby and just instigating trouble imho.

Some have been, but that is the curse of freedom of speech, sometimes you don't hear what you want. I simply filter out the shit and keep the gems.

If some people think what I said was rash/out of turn,
Fine.

But simply going after someone like this is unreal,

It is going to get worse the more this cloud of secrecy hovers over Planet Partners. MA aren't helping it with their stance on this and FPC can't say shit as it does not involve them. ND stands alone and people are standing up and making a commotion because they are smarter than the average MMO'er and can see and understand the injustices (even if minor for now) which some players are allowed to get away with.

I dont ever remember anyone going this nuts when there was a serrious problem with a player at swamp camp 3 years ago being incredibly racist, even the avatar name its self was.

Thats just one example but there is much more.

It is because we can do math and comprehend the difference in scope between one 12 year old idiot calling everyone a racist name and someone who owns a VERY LARGE stake in a virtual universe and who is out there in the public eye and affects how people will approach the game, which guess what, affects ALL OF US.

alot of you posting are far from being shining examples of decent people.

Red herring...... so what? We're talking about ND here, not us. Logical fallacies might be glossed over at a family conversation, but there are people here who don't fall for such poor debate tactics.

Imho, you think someone is breaking the rules, Send a support case.
Why drag that persons name through the mud,

Many have, and you can hear the grass grow from MA's lack of "clarification".

Neverdie might have a thick enough skin to ignore or brush off alot of comments he perhapse gets,
But that still doesnt mean people have to be that harsh,

I've hardly seen much which can be called HARSH, oh i've seen some stupid comments, but for the most part, people are nitpicking. They are not insulting ND as a person, more how he is treated by MA and what he has been allowed to do.

My own personal opinion on it should be this.

Rocktropia forum should be on Rocktropia.com, Not Neverdie.com.
Club Neverdie should be on Rocktropia as it fits with more of a musical Genre,

Please don't be so bombastic and insult ND's intelligence by spewing your opinion bile around in public and suggest IMPROVEMENTS to how he does things. Some of us might get offended. Yes this is pure BS defence on my part, but if we can't share an opinion on how he does things, neither can you.

I also think that if people really have such a big problem with ND playing then his avatar should be made an official one that can control the planet correctly.

Hey you are coming around to our viewpoint

And im sure that alot of people at FPC, MA have their own avatars to play with, just none knows them,

That would be wrong... see the previous 75+ pages for an explanation as to why.

So with that, He could have an official avatar, but still play as normal as ND.

I'd prefer an Official role, leave the playing to the customers.

Why is that so wrong, Why is that hurting people.

It hurts the very person you are trying to defend, because this thread was just a demo of what will come when ND hits ATH/rare shit on rocktropia! If anything, stop thinking of the here and now, and think LONG TERM and maybe you'd realise we're actually, in a way, even defending ND from himself or the "extra rope" that MA hands him, some people when given enough rope will hang themselves.

One more thing, Why is FPC allowed to create Events, And be able to implement things like, Christmas Gifts, or Special Prizes,

We can't answer that, only MA can.

 

[John_connor]

Simple question to all people who have posted and think ND has abused his position have you sent a support case to MA regarding this?

To be honest this thread has been out of line since tth 10th page (Yes I have read every post as I have loads of time on my hands)

I am not going to make anymore pro ND/RT/NI as the mass stack of <cough> constructive -reps on my last post seem to have brought out the bad side of people.

So please if you have an issue with the way ND is playing please raise a case and discuss it with MA enough is enough here.

As for the comments about how ND should donate his loot etc well he does he pays out of his own pocket to buy sweat and other crap from new players on RT to help them get started!

 

[Sapeian]

Good god, you want to pull my posts apart and analyse every damn sentance I make now?

Im simply saying that there is no need for posts like this to drag peoples names through the mud,
If ND "Hangs Himself" then fine, on his head be it, But I don't think he will to be quite honest.

The way I see it he is simply passing time playing the game while he waits for MA to give him the power he needs to build his planet,

If you think there is some kind of huge injustice to you all because he, His son, play EU When you don't think they should.

Then how is this for injustice,

This is the Buisness model for the Planet Partners.

http://www.entropiaplatform.com/partners/business-model/

As you see from the top diagram it states the planet partner can Administer, Moderate their planet.

Some of you may ask why i have put this in,
The reason is this,

Perhapse if Neverdie had got the controls as stated within the buisness model, then things would be going alot smoother, and he would not log in to play the game.

I mean, If you think about it,
He has just spent Millions, I don't know the official number,
But his team have worked for months creating the artwork,
and for Mindark to implement it.

Now mindark gets a share of profits... What profits?
How can he make money when he hasnt be able to market the planet to gain the users he needs on the planets.
If a huge wave of players does come along right now, How could neverdie possibly sustaine them?

He cannot.

That I think, Is an injustice.

As for Robotboy playing the game, I cannot answer that, I have no answer for that. all I can see is yes it is a violation of TOS, and if you want to persue that, and you are. then whatever,

But look at the bigger picture here.

What is he supposed to do right now?

Andy.

 

[Aio]

Seriously. The logic is hilarious.

 

[JJO]

Simple question to all people who have posted and think ND has abused his position have you sent a support case to MA regarding this?

Wait, WHAT!?!? I don't talk to people who don't talk back, makes me feel kinda stupid and "attention-seeking". They will notice, eventually. Even MIGHTY governments notice a bunch of LOWLY students protesting in town square, if done long enough.

To be honest this thread has been out of line since tth 10th page (Yes I have read every post as I have loads of time on my hands)

That's your opinion, mine is, it is simply a public protest. So like picketing you will hear and see the same slogans over and over.

So please if you have an issue with the way ND is playing please raise a case and discuss it with MA enough is enough here.

I don't see any official identification from you to order DOZENS of people as to where to protest, how long and in what fashion.

As for the comments about how ND should donate his loot etc well he does he pays out of his own pocket to buy sweat and other crap from new players on RT to help them get started!

I don't expect him to do anything with his loot, in fact, I'd prefer if he not get any loot at all and stick to the salary he earns as a property/planet owner, compared to that I'm sure another GLOBAL or HOF or ATH is MINOR compared to the income he makes as a planet partner. And the losses he would suffer from the negative taint he'd get from jealous people would surely be more than the loot he could get in the game. See I and many people here get this, how the hell he doesn't is what bugs me. Maybe those fruity looks really are not only for show???

 

[Rockchick]

But look at the bigger picture here.

What is he supposed to do right now?

Andy.

I would say that he should be whiter than white and play the fantastic PR man that he is! And build his planets up!

 

[Sapeian]

I would say that he should be whiter than white and play the fantastic PR man that he is! And build his planets up!

Yes but how can he when the planets cannot expand beyond their current capacity.
Without the right managment powers he has to do everything through MA.

Andy.

 

[dilly]

I have spent a lot of time on Rocktropia, and I have learnt a lot about how ND staff operate...

When condoning ND staff, remember ND studios cant just pull ped and prizes out of their ass in the same way FPC do, from what I know they do not have access to that system. All the funds for prizes, event sponsorship, and flea market funding comes straight from staff members ped cards.
Yes, they do play with an advantage over others, but the difference is that they do not play to make money in the same way many of us do. These players give out 100's of peds worth of prizes and event sponsorship every week from their own ped cards. Almost all prizes given out by ND studios staff were bought with ped.

You think Marco ran around buying the Angel/shadow armor parts FPC are giving away at Merry Mayhem? Of course he didn't. If ND Studios wanted to do the same chances are they would have to. That is the difference, and its a VERY big difference.

 

[John_connor]

I don't see any official identification from you to order DOZENS of people as to where to protest, how long and in what fashion.

Does the term witch-hunt mean anything to you? That’s what this post is? forget innocent people the mob has spoken lol

 

[Rockchick]

Yes but how can he when the planets cannot expand beyond their current capacity.
Without the right managment powers he has to do everything through MA.

Andy.

But surely he understood that when he bought it! If he wanted more he would need to make his own game?

 

[Sapeian]

But surely he understood that when he bought it! If he wanted more he would need to make his own game?

NO!

Let me once again point you here

http://www.entropiaplatform.com/partners/business-model/

The buisness model as written by Mindark states that the planet owner would have Administration rights of their planet.

Well the only planet partner that does is FPC..

Andy.

 

[Jimmy B]

Simple question to all people who have posted and think ND has abused his position have you sent a support case to MA regarding this?

Various people have contacted MA and await for response. So MA are clearly aware of this thread and the issues being discussed.

Sadly, as usual, they seem to have decided radio silence is the best way to treat their customer's concerns. Surely it is simpler to make a public statement on the matter than respond to 301 support cases individually?

 

[JJO]

If you are going to address me at least say hey JJO or something, had you not said the thing about me analyzing your every sentence, I'd not know who you were replying to.

Good god, you want to pull my posts apart and analyse every damn sentance I make now?

Well yes, that is kind of the point in a debate. Or would you prefer I HEURISTICALLY (that's a technical term for - I pull an idea out my ass as to what you MEAN) analyze what you say and respond after I have analyzed the "General" tone of your post. Leaving out the details?

Im simply saying that there is no need for posts like this to drag peoples names through the mud,

He's the one dragging his name through the "mud" with what he allows his employees to do, what he does himself, what advantage he takes from MA, and how he uses a second avatar from he deceased ex wife. Even if we all kept quiet, we'd still know what is going on and we'd still know that new players coming here would see this in time and it would affect the game, for all of us.

The way I see it he is simply passing time playing the game while he waits for MA to give him the power he needs to build his planet,

Could i suggest something? Just read your own post before you click the SUBMIT REPLY button, this is a ridiculous argument.

If you think there is some kind of huge injustice to you all because he, His son, play EU When you don't think they should.

Then how is this for injustice,

This is the Buisness model for the Planet Partners.

http://www.entropiaplatform.com/partners/business-model/

As you see from the top diagram it states the planet partner can Administer, Moderate their planet.

Careful now, I know what those 2 words mean. And they sure don't mean CONFLICT OF INTEREST is allowed here, please sign up and be the god of your own planet, know all in advance and play with that advantage.

Some of you may ask why i have put this in,
The reason is this,

Perhapse if Neverdie had got the controls as stated within the buisness model, then things would be going alot smoother, and he would not log in to play the game.

Dude, I am utterly too embarrassed for the little reputation I have as an "educated" poster to even attempt to argue against such an absurd excuse.

I mean, If you think about it,
He has just spent Millions, I don't know the official number,
But his team have worked for months creating the artwork,
and for Mindark to implement it.

Now mindark gets a share of profits... What profits?
How can he make money when he hasnt be able to market the planet to gain the users he needs on the planets.
If a huge wave of players does come along right now, How could neverdie possibly sustaine them?

He cannot.

That I think, Is an injustice.

Same way FPC does with calypso, make something people WANT to play. Sadly I think he has a poor business plan (I say that in all respect) if he thinks people want to interact with mobs which have the names of music personalities. I also think the bands/personalities who signed up are better off sticking to having clothing companies give them the trends the fans copy from them tomorrow, than investing in ideas that most people out there are so dumb as to make them all billionares by shoot at some LEMMY DRAGONs, vampires or hookers on the street. It is kinda childish, and KIDS ain't got DOUGH.

But look at the bigger picture here.

What is he supposed to do right now?

Andy.

Maybe go watch a movie, raise his kids, treat his wife to dinner. I mean it is absolutely clear from your post that he has NOTHING better to do than sit and pot-shot a few globals on his lonely planet.......

 

[Sapeian]

If you are going to address me at least say hey JJO or something, had you not said the thing about me analyzing your every sentence, I'd not know who you were replying to.



Well yes, that is kind of the point in a debate. Or would you prefer I HEURISTICALLY (that's a technical term for - I pull an idea out my ass as to what you MEAN) analyze what you say and respond after I have analyzed the "General" tone of your post. Leaving out the details?



He's the one dragging his name through the "mud" with what he allows his employees to do, what he does himself, what advantage he takes from MA, and how he uses a second avatar from he deceased ex wife. Even if we all kept quiet, we'd still know what is going on and we'd still know that new players coming here would see this in time and it would affect the game, for all of us.



Could i suggest something? Just read your own post before you click the SUBMIT REPLY button, this is a ridiculous argument.



Careful now, I know what those 2 words mean. And they sure don't mean CONFLICT OF INTEREST is allowed here, please sign up and be the god of your own planet, know all in advance and play with that advantage.



Dude, I am utterly too embarrassed for the little reputation I have as an "educated" poster to even attempt to argue against such an absurd excuse.



Same way FPC does with calypso, make something people WANT to play. Sadly I think he has a poor business plan (I say that in all respect) if he thinks people want to interact with mobs which have the names of music personalities. I also think the bands/personalities who signed up are better off sticking to having clothing companies give them the trends the fans copy from them tomorrow, than investing in ideas that most people out there are so dumb as to make them all billionares by shoot at some LEMMY DRAGONs, vampires or hookers on the street. It is kinda childish, and KIDS ain't got DOUGH.



Maybe go watch a movie, raise his kids, treat his wife to dinner. I mean it is absolutely clear from your post that he has NOTHING better to do than sit and pot-shot a few globals on his lonely planet.......

Hey JJO.. Is that better?


Your distorting my points to make your self sound intelligent,
My point is simply that he, Like john connor said is buying the items for prizes, And having to use the resources they have as players to create events,

They have no system like FPC does to work normally as a planet partner.

They are not playing the game for their own fame or gain.

They are trying to get people involved.

As for the Mobs... You told me earlier not to try and tell ND how to run his buisness... Now it would seem you have your opinions on the matter.

So stop trying to pull me apart and argue with me, when your doing the same bloody thing to try and get one up on me.

That's childish.

Andy.

 

[JJO]

Does the term witch-hunt mean anything to you? That’s what this post is? forget innocent people the mob has spoken lol

Oh he's innocent now? I guess all the evidence people have given in this thread alone is simply inadmissible, according to you.

Oh BTW a witch hunt is when you persecute without evidence or where you fabricate evidence just so you can persecute. I've not seen that being done here. I don't consider every comment here to be start quality, but some have got clear proof which is very hard for a rationalist like me to simply BRUSH OFF as a witch hunt.