PeteHines
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Remain locked ?
Ban for life ?
Lawsuits ?
Names ?
oh my :/
plz MA do tell !
Remain locked ?
Ban for life ?
Lawsuits ?
Names ?
oh my :/
Remember this statement from golddude;
was from this thread page 4;
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/general-discussion/113147-does-anyone-like-new-vu-4.html
I would think he is one of those who exploited the cash bug could be wrong but sure sounds like it.
i heard that upto six avatars and over 1.5 million peds were involved!
From my time working IN Fraud/Transactions and Authorisations for Capital One, i would expect paynova ot be liable and MA to have chargeback rights on them for the loss if it is indeed a Paynova bug.
Normal process fo chargeback is:
Bank/Card/Cash source pays the merchant based on th trasnaction info given... if transactions dodgy, the Bank/Card/Cash source has chargeback rights on the merchant.
Its technically upto the merchant company to confirm the details are correct as the payments made ona semi "as faith" basis that the info's correct.
But if its a software bug by Paynova then technically the chargebacks reversed dpeending on license agreement and paynova should pay MA for any lossess
+Rep for MA tho on swift and decisive action.
Would be nice to have names tho.... surely someones noticed a missing socmate
i heard that upto six avatars and over 1.5 million peds were involved!
i heard that upto six avatars and over 1.5 million peds were involved!
i heard that up to six avatars and over 1.5 million peds were involved!
where did u get this information?
So, question to you then... If MA was paid their money from an account that Paynova messed up on, isn't it up to paynova to go after anyone that abused their service and not MA???
My real question.. if so, then how are accounts locked as the EULA wasn't broken as payment was made to MA???????
Curious huh????
MindArk registers Participants Self-Registered Personal Data ... for the necessity of transferring funds between MindArk and the Participant, and for the purposes of identity verification, detection and counteraction of fraud and Agreement violations
MindArk reserves the right, pursuant to the conditions set forth in Section 17, to terminate your Account and this Agreement without notice, at MindArk's sole discretion, if you fail to comply with the terms of this Agreement.
In the event that your Account is locked or terminated, no refund will be granted. Any delinquent or unresolved issues relating to former participation must be resolved before MindArk will permit you to have a new Account.
You acknowledge that any exchange carried out using any Non-Approved transaction procedure is at your own risk. MindArk reserves the right to take any necessary measures for the purpose of preventing and acting against frauds and Non-Approved Transactions, including, but not limited to, making a reservation against a suspected Transaction, and terminating a directly or indirectly involved Account, if MindArk judges that the Transaction was not performed in compliance to this Agreement.
m. You must report errors and bugs to MindArk whenever you discover them. Neglecting to report errors or bugs, or using bugs, slow connection, Internet latency, or 'exploits' for own benefits may result in a termination of your Account, including its Virtual Items, funds, and abilities.
18. Breach of the Agreement
Without limiting MindArk's legal remedies, if you violate any part of this Agreement or the documents it incorporates by reference, your Account may be terminated, locked, or warned in the form of a temporary lockdown. Any action taken against your Account due to a violation is the decision of MindArk and is final. Any claims, Virtual Items, funds, etc, located on a locked avatar Account will be forfeited and any fund transactions pending will be revoked. Upon verification of your identity, MindArk may, at MindArk's sole discretion, reactivate your Account.
I'd like to know how reliable your source is too
Well then Paynova will investigate the parties who participated in fraud.
Here are some sentences from the EULA i think covers what you suggest:
"documents it incorporates" refers (but is not limited) to local and international law. Fraud is usually against the law.
I sure hope not that much money was involved because those peds have to be insanely hard to track down! Good job though MA on thus far locking first and discovering the culprits. I hope they get what is coming to them.
i know one of the avatars involved, and he informed me of the "glitch" but fortunately i never use paynova or i would have been soooooo banned. but as this is a matter of fraud i have been asked by the parties involved not to release any details.
yet you then go and say its 1.5million ped involved
not that i believe that, many due to the fact there was good stuff left in the auction, 1.5 million spending spree would have cleared it out.
ah 1.5 million "illegal" peds got in to the system buy only so much can be spent before getting busted.
no names is what i was reffering to!
like i said
yea i dont think that anyone can spend that much in a short time unless he emptied all the malls
ah 1.5 million "illegal" peds got in to the system buy only so much can be spent before getting busted. thats how MA clocked on what was happening
So, question to you then... If MA was paid their money from an account that Paynova messed up on, isn't it up to paynova to go after anyone that abused their service and not MA???
My real question.. if so, then how are accounts locked as the EULA wasn't broken as payment was made to MA???????
Curious huh????
I heard it was more than gazzillion peds !
It is NOT paynovas system which delivers the PEDs to your avatars card, that is MA's system. Paynova deliver cash to MindArks account. Anyhow, I wrote Paynova this afternoon asking about where the issue is. I'd been a paynova user since early 2004 with an extensive deposit history, and if it proves to be an issue in paynovas system I will no longer use that service. When I get a solid written answer I will let you know.
I´m locked too..
No reason....
Hm... if these problem continius maby its
time to withraw...... and leave...