Adj. Stark 97

[Jonny Joe Momo]

Hi, i would like to know from the people who own one if you are happy with it. I also would like to know what mobs you can kill or get to really low health before the mob reaches you (with or without dante/beast).
Are there other rifles you like more in the price range?

 

[Revolution]

Hello, i would reconsider a Modified Starkhov AS-117 instead with dante amp. Hell of a weapon mate. About the other question, It depends if you're skilled or not. But ambulimax old/provider? (alpha) "you need 4-5k evade or mod fap!"

Price range or not, you buy an specifc item when you have money, clever up the mind, no offense intended.

About the First question: i dont own one, but i see stats on it. And modified 117. Is the winner.

The infomation above might be useless, but i call this like an informed 'BUMP!'

 

[madball]

I am the lucky owner of such gun. I use Dante too. Because my opinion is that with Dante you can enjoy BLP weapons power compleatly. How you understood already, I am very happy with it.
Talkin about mobs. With some skills and no lags there is no problem to kill Armax Bull Dominant. Wariors up to generation 3 do not even get shot to you. There is no problems to do Longu u to Alphas. They sometimes kill you but no so often. Only problem is skills. To use it normaly you need some skills for BLP carabines.
So its realy nice gun. Quite long range and speed is very nice.

 

[Vedder]

I don't own one myself, but this is the stats from pe-wiki for ajd-97 and as-147:
(Both stats are WITH Dante amps)


Name......Dmg...Range...Att...D/sec....TT....Eco........Markup
AS-147.....83....82.5....57....78.9...394...4.24......2233.78
Adj-97.....90....88.0....54....81.0...599...4.25......3695.41


EDIT: ARRG! Can't make the numbers line up nicely.

 

[Jonny Joe Momo]

Thx for the replies.
Madball, what are your hit and crit on the weapon and maybe you want to tell your rifle... skills too. Do you lose much on hunts with the weapon or do you get "ok" returns from the mobs you hunt?

 

[madball]

Thx for the replies.
Madball, what are your hit and crit on the weapon and maybe you want to tell your rifle... skills too. Do you lose much on hunts with the weapon or do you get "ok" returns from the mobs you hunt?

my HA=4.2 for this weapon. I am Specialist BLP Sniper, just opened Coolnes.Rife skill ir almost 5.8k.
Abotu profit. This depends what is the loot at the moment. In general I am in profit with it because of some nice loots. Weapon is not such economical as ImpMK2 but at this price I think its OK. there should be some free money for hunting with this weapon, but it should be always you hunt some bigger mobs, I think.

 

[Jonny Joe Momo]

Thx for the info
Are there any other people who want to tell about there exp. with this weapon?

 

[WedgeGold]

What if you just have a plain AS-97.

What can you add to it?

 

[Roth]

well i used a 129 for 3-4 months, used 147 for a month and adj 97 for 1.5 years so i guess ive had some expirence with them

both 129 and 147 is very close to adj 97, but if you like the extra edge its really worth it if you dont pay to much. ignore those silly 6K in auc, i sold mine at +3.2k in january i think and that was the second most expensive one ever sold at that time, yes prices seem to have gone up.. but as long as you can get 147 or 129 for +2k or less dont pay more then +3.5k for adj 97.

its a nice gun but its nowhere great

note: all 3 carbines above are better then mk5 which might be your other choice in the same price range (tho 129 has a bit short range)

for mobs, adj 97+dante can kill a smaller thorifoid, ambu young/mature before they reach you if using maxrange (and got decent skills)

 

[AkiranBlade]

I intend to get one at some point in the near future, it's a great weapon, I use an ml-35 atm, but I want something with a higher repeat rate.

 

[sirre]

adj-97 is a nice gun

I was very pleased with the adj-97 for that price tag. (+3 - +3.5)
For at period I did own a 147 and adj-97 and I must say that the winner is adj-97. I know ppl will fry me for this, the stats are the same yada yada, it’s just my two pecs.
I guess the range combined with little higher tot dmg then the normal 147 has was what I liked about the adj-97 and with that it suited my hunting style better. The eco is better too.
I did use a amp most of the times, but be careful when using the Dante.
I know it has the best dmg/pec out of all BLP amps, but if you are on the wrong mob at the wrong time you will end up on a minus run and it will cost a lot more with the dante then is should be with a beast.

But over all it’s a lovely BLP GUN.

Off topic

I am now a proud owner of a ajd-V1 and I must say this is the ultimate BLP wpn.
Adj V1
Good: You can’t amp the gun. That way you will know if you are on a bad run before you stand in front of the rep terminal.
Bad: It requires its master to be somewhere around champion rifle and champion blp skill lvl to get the better out of it.

I hope this helps you on you’re path.

 

[AkiranBlade]

Adj V1
Good: You can’t amp the gun.

Yet; according to MA support.

 

[SigurRos]

The As 129 Rocks them all. use a Bravo for range and when it comes in on your radar fire!!! i like this, cuse you know every time when to fire and will never miss shots out of range, you get 2 shots with the bravo then the mobs comes in range, The 129 does 60 dam witch i belive is even more than the adj 97. the range dont matter mutch as it kills allmost anything befor it hits you.



the As 129 is cheeeper and better. go that that

 

[sirre]

Yet; according to MA support.

Ok if that’s the case good
122,5 dmg/sec with dante

But you don’t need it, you have a better dmg/sec then with the adj-97+dante.

 

[AkiranBlade]

Ok if that’s the case good
122,5 dmg/sec with dante

But you don’t need it, you have a better dmg/sec then with the adj-97+dante.

Someone in another post had sent a support about this and they replied with 'yet'. This could have been a typo lol, false hope

 

[AkiranBlade]

But you don’t need it, you have a better dmg/sec then with the adj-97+dante.

That's where range makes it's presence known. Of course, if you are the 'get 6 around me' kinda guy, this makes no odds lol

 

[Da Snake]

I saw recently that a bunch of these are on Auction so they must be dropping somewhere. Anyone know what drops the adj AS-97s? I don't think it is just the Warlock listed on pe-wiki...

Thanks!

 

[Vedder]

I saw recently that a bunch of these are on Auction so they must be dropping somewhere. Anyone know what drops the adj AS-97s? I don't think it is just the Warlock listed on pe-wiki...

Thanks!

He he... Just because some are for sale, doesn't mean they dropped recently.

 

[Ironheart]

I saw recently that a bunch of these are on Auction so they must be dropping somewhere. Anyone know what drops the adj AS-97s? I don't think it is just the Warlock listed on pe-wiki...

Thanks!

I looted one from a Feffoid Guard some time ago (VU 7.3).

Its a really really good gun, but I had to sell it as I didn't have the skills or the money at the time to use it efficiently. I got TT + 2.9K at the time (roughly 11-12 months ago).

I used to be able to take out Warrior Gen 1-3 at the outpost W of Troy in my Knight armour! (Knight has very poor bot protection) This was with ~98 HP and before variable damage ... ah Happy Days indeed!

 

[madball]

Off topic

I am now a proud owner of a ajd-V1 and I must say this is the ultimate BLP wpn.
Adj V1
Good: You can’t amp the gun. That way you will know if you are on a bad run before you stand in front of the rep terminal.
Bad: It requires its master to be somewhere around champion rifle and champion blp skill lvl to get the better out of it.

I hope this helps you on you’re path.

Do not agree. At the moment price for Adj V1 guns are much to high. This Dmg/pec is to low for the gun to pay such amount of money for it. For example compairing to VAT-100 ME, this gun is better in one position - Dmg/pec where Adj V1 is 0.02 points ahead to Vat-100 ME. In othere important positions Adj V1 is behind Vat-100 ME. Take a look at prices, VAT-100ME is two times cheaper than AdjV1 is.
I even don't want to compare Adj V1 with Adj AS-97 because this for hunting Adj AS97 more better than Adj V1, because this 2 points in dmg/sec what Adj V1 is ahead to Adj AS97 is not matter nothing when you can do dmg to mob while mob is runing those extra 33 m which you get with Adj AS-97. Plus, dmg/pec for Adj AS-97 far better than Adj V1 has. Oc corse its about the full range useing in hunting.

p.s. all stats for Adj AS-97 and VAT-100 ME are useing useing Fi/Ra/Co Dante

Copleate stats for all three guns:
Adj V1: dmg/pec= 4.16 dmg/sec= 83.8 range= 55
VAT-100 ME: dmg/pec= 4.14 dmg/sec= 86.3 range= 66
Adj AS-97: dmg/pec 4.25 dmg/sec= 81 range= 88

 

[sirre]

Do not agree. At the moment price for Adj V1 guns are much to high. This Dmg/pec is to low for the gun to pay such amount of money for it. For example compairing to VAT-100 ME, this gun is better in one position - Dmg/pec where Adj V1 is 0.02 points ahead to Vat-100 ME. In othere important positions Adj V1 is behind Vat-100 ME. Take a look at prices, VAT-100ME is two times cheaper than AdjV1 is.
I even don't want to compare Adj V1 with Adj AS-97 because this for hunting Adj AS97 more better than Adj V1, because this 2 points in dmg/sec what Adj V1 is ahead to Adj AS97 is not matter nothing when you can do dmg to mob while mob is runing those extra 33 m which you get with Adj AS-97. Plus, dmg/pec for Adj AS-97 far better than Adj V1 has. Oc corse its about the full range useing in hunting.

p.s. all stats for Adj AS-97 and VAT-100 ME are useing useing Fi/Ra/Co Dante

Copleate stats for all three guns:
Adj V1: dmg/pec= 4.16 dmg/sec= 83.8 range= 55
VAT-100 ME: dmg/pec= 4.14 dmg/sec= 86.3 range= 66
Adj AS-97: dmg/pec 4.25 dmg/sec= 81 range= 88

I know what the stats say, but from my point of view the V1 is far more superior.
What the stats don’t say

You don’t hit full dmg every time, especially with a dante on it?
With the 75 dmg/min you hit the mob so often that it hardly have time to hit back. (I know the VAT 100 ME have a good reload so don’t even bother pointing that out)
You hopefully come to sense if you are on a bad run and have time to abort it before hitting the rep terminal.

What do you think the loot pool built up upon ammo spent or decay?
I think someone said “decay is our income”

I’m not saying that adj-97 or the VAT-100 ME is crap but I guess all of you know what my choice would be.

 

[Noggin]

From experience, I loved my Adj Stark, and I think it's one of the better value guns at this price-point. It's price hasn't rocketed like some of the other weapons, so if you can find a deal on one I say "Go get it!"

You'll find the range on it useful, the reload excellent and the economy pretty darn good.

And to whomever mentioned that the Mod Stark is better -- well duh! It's price reflects this heavily lol... That's a bit like saying "yeah the EP-40 Mercenary is good, but get a Mod Merc instead -- much better"

In the price range of the Adj AS-97, it's nearest competition is the ML-35 I think... Great gun, slower reload, better range. The VAT 100ME is a lot more expensive from what I've seen, although it's a very nice weapon if you can get it.

If you have about 3-4k to spend on a weapon, you can't really go wrong with the Adj Stark. At least, if you make sure you get a good deal on it you won't lose any money for trying it out!

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference. Try it out and get a feel for it

 

[Vedder]

...You don’t hit full dmg every time, especially with a dante on it?...

Are you saying that amps make you miss more shots?

I doubt that very much.

 

[sirre]

Are you saying that amps make you miss more shots?

I doubt that very much.

Not miss but you sure as hell have a more even dmg with beast then dante

Prolly this is lack of skills, think I was around 5k rifle and blp when I had my adj-97 and dante.
Perhaps someone with dante and adj-97 and better skills have a different opinion.

 

[Vedder]

Not miss but you sure as hell have a more even dmg with beast then dante

Prolly this is lack of skills, think I was around 5k rifle and blp when I had my adj-97 and dante.
Perhaps someone with dante and adj-97 and better skills have a different opinion.

Oh that's what you meant.
Sry, I misunderstood you then.

Well, it's like this: If you do average dmg of 65% of max with your unamped weapon, you'll STILL do average damage of 65% of max, if you amp it.
Doesn't matter if you use Beast or Dante, the % of max damage will be the same.

 

[Jonny Joe Momo]

Thx for all the infos. I think i'll try to get one in 2-3 months (hope the price don't get's 2 times of what it's atm, like the ek-2600 which went from tt+500 to tt+1k in some weeks ), but first i have to buy a car irl

 

[sirre]

Oh that's what you meant.
Sry, I misunderstood you then.

Well, it's like this: If you do average dmg of 65% of max with your unamped weapon, you'll STILL do average damage of 65% of max, if you amp it.
Doesn't matter if you use Beast or Dante, the % of max damage will be the same.

I’m not convinced that the amplifier only amplify the gun I think its skill dependent too.
Id say to handle the dante you need more skills then you do to handle the beast.
I don’t have any fancy figures to support this it’s just my gut telling me and a couple of millions rounds of ammo


And to Jonny Joe Momo gl.

 

[Mice]

I used adj stark, mod stark and adj v1 for years and different periods. The choice should be based on how u intend to use it. Adj Stark and Mod Stark is the same kind of usage, adj v1 different. If u like to get mobs low on health from range, have the option to amp it once in awhile and do some pK then adj och mod is the choice. Mod is better in all aspect then adj but the price and pocketsize has to decide your choice. Adj v1 has higher firerate, lower range..but its a real skillbooster, so If u want to get your skills up fast (in the beginning) get adj v1, choose the mob after what you can handle safely and skill your ass off....but as I said, its nutting better or worse between these its a choice of whats fits you.

I currently use adj v1 and I wouldnt change it for a mod as-117 again even dmg/pec is higher this doesnt concern me, for me its all about skills and what I actually make in returns....

 

[Roth]

I know what the stats say, but from my point of view the V1 is far more superior.
What the stats don’t say

You don’t hit full dmg every time, especially with a dante on it?
With the 75 dmg/min you hit the mob so often that it hardly have time to hit back. (I know the VAT 100 ME have a good reload so don’t even bother pointing that out)
You hopefully come to sense if you are on a bad run and have time to abort it before hitting the rep terminal.

What do you think the loot pool built up upon ammo spent or decay?
I think someone said “decay is our income”

I’m not saying that adj-97 or the VAT-100 ME is crap but I guess all of you know what my choice would be.

adj v1 is nowhere near superior, dante do NOT change your % avreage the amp inherit the stats of the gun you are using (well not range, damage, decay and ammoburn ofcourse)

if you hunt alot you will KNOW how much it cost in decay all the time so you have just as much time to abort with high decay weaps.

so basicly, what you say that the stats dont say is wrong.
the stats however is right.

and based on the things you say I guess you havnt used any starkhovs/vats much.. only the adjv1. myself i do have plenty of expirence from the 2 years ive been using blp so im not guessing about that

 

[Mice]

Im agreeing to Roths input here. One fact that seems to make ppl think you do less dmg when amped (especially with BLP amps since they add more dmg) is that your avg dmg gets lower. The truth is your dmg range (min to max) is alot wider when amped so its easier to spot the variance...and it may appear diffrent, but its not.

When I used amped mod stark I usually took 70% of ammo from what I used with adj v1, since ammoburn is approx 70% of adj v1s if U count dmg/ammo....the 30% overhead makes up for the decay

Example: 1000 ped ammo with adj v1, take 700 ped with mod-117 (use the "fictive" spent 300 ped for repairs on the gun+amp ..this way you can easier track repairs and dont get suprised when you hit the repairterminal

--my 2 pecs