hi guys
thanx for the info - I WAS in the process of building an old P IV pc around my old AGP hd 3850 while saving up for a new computer but i have managed to get a nice quad core (Q6600) with 4 gb ram, which i think is very good for EU and it comes WITH an HD 3870 so i was hoping this will do fine until i save soime pennies for a nice 4870
thanx