MonkeyCreamy
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That's right, I've had enough of all you complainers.
And stupid redundant complaint posts. They are doing nothing but wasting valuable server space that could be used for meaningful and fun threads.
Index:
I - What is this all about?
II - The Good.
III - The Bad.
IIII - The Ugly.
V - Wisdom From The Monkey
I - What is this all about?
I'm not here to praise MA, or complain or say what they did was the best.
However,
There has been a ridicolous amount of complaints and threads that do nothing but waste space and clutter a forum that should be used for having fun.
Yes VU 10 was released buggy and in a horrible state, but to be honest. I'm glad, I rather have it sooner than later no matter what shape its in, but that's just me and a small minority.
The fact of the matter is MA could have made a test server, people say they should have made a test server. But they didn't.
I'm shocked at some of peoples responses to the VU10 update. There has been many problems that should be addressed but complaining is no way to bring them up. MA is more likely to look at a thread labeled "Help, Crashes!" rather than, "VU 10 Sucks, I quit!".
I am going to try to address all these issues and point out what should be happening and what shouldn't.
//End
II - The Good.
Ill start with the good, and work our way down to bad/worst
. I have seen a great amount of constructive criticism threads which are a big + in my book for both solving the problem and bringing up the issue without such a derogatory manner.
I have also seen a great effort of forum members trying to help other forum members solve their problems.
There has also been a good amount of threads displaying the fun people are having in the new VU.
Sadly, all these good threads probably easily get outweighed by the complaint threads.
//End
III - The Bad.
Lets jump right into this, and take a look at why I think its bad when people complain about some issues.
CTD, Login Issues:
I had Login issues and crashing issues, for me I found out the login crash was avoided by switching windows repetitively while logging in. As for ingame crashes I found that hotkeying things made me crash every 3-5 minutes and then resetting the keys took many tries, so for now I will not hotkey anything. These I think are the most important issues to be fixed right now, so that people can at least get in the game.
Rumors/Lies causing bad rep:
I've seen a thread stating that Entropia killed their graphics card. This is a flat out lie, if your graphics card died from running at 100% load then its not the games problem it is a mechanical problem with your graphics card.
You wouldn't blame a city highway if your cars motor exploded because you didn't maintain the engine.
So don't blame EU for damaging your GPU because its fan had a problem or a mechanical deficiency.
To let you know, I have ran my GPU at 100% load for over 48 hours. Your card has a problem if it cannot do that.
Controls:
First thing I noticed in VU 10, to me its not much of a issue. I think they should still have keys to turn left and right just to make it easier for those used to it. But really I don't find it that hard to adjust.
I'm running in 3rd Person , I want to turn, *Spacebar* *Move Mouse* *Spacebar*.
Not really that hard.
And I find first person more immersive, I liked these changes for the most part besides not having keys to turn in 3rd Person.
I love avatar leaning.
I don't have much to complain about with the new controls.
Hunting:
Hunting is great now, the thrill of first person hunting in the new VU is awesome. I really don't miss the old click and shoot, I probably lost alot with the old click and shoot because the auto aim did a poor job on cliffs and in certain situations.
I'm glad hunting is how it is now, and looting is easy, either double click on the mob or right click and click loot.
However they should still have someway to cator to those who want to hunt in third person.
Mining:
I mined alot this past weekend and only lost 1 claim due to it being invisible, others could see it. I just couldn't, a relog probably could have fixed it but it was only a very poor. I really don't see why so many people are complaining, if you don't like mining with the issues right now. Then don't mine! Leave the HOFs for me.
If the hills are going to pose a problem to you then simply work around them and be more aware of your surroundings. To be honest there's probably very few claims that you can't get to. I was mining on a huge mountain 900+m tall and I had no problem getting claims. A lot of people are lazy.
CND is a bit different issue, but I haven't been there yet so I wont further comment. Ill just say, if its absolutely impossible to mine up there, then yes it needs to be fixed.
Auto-Click:
Macro/Auto-Clicking was always against the EULA if I'm not mistaken, I do think MA should have a feature for crafters ingame where maybe there's a auto clicker built into the crafting dialog. Like, a button were you can enter a number of times to repeat the craft.
As for others, use a more ergonomic setup. I played EU nearly 8 hours solid yesterday (don't normally do that, lol) and I had no problems or pain. Just stretch every 15-20 minutes. Do some reading up on safe keyboard/computer use.
CryEngine 2:
I viewed VU 10 or CryEngine 2 update as a big TY from MA, seriously they went out of their way and bought a world class triple-A game engine and spent time and money implementing it. And it seems as if they are working hard to get it polished up.
I really find it rude how some people say to leave Entropia how it was, the expandability on the last engine was non-existent.
I was waiting for VU 10, and im glad its here. I was getting sick of playing a game that felt like it was from the summer of 2000.
Climbing:
Climbing isn't impossible, I like it more. The games physics is much more realistic, however yes its a bit tough to get up some mountains but usually there are ways. Just yesterday, parts my society (including me) reached the summit of a mountain at 900+m.
And it was alot of fun, if mountains are going to be something to take into consideration in gameplay, then let it be. It is more realistic.
Yes I know sometimes there's a awkward slope that you probably could get up in real life but not in the game, but what do you expect MA to do. Make a animation were you crawl on the ground and then adjust the physics so you make it up?. That would require a lot of testing and trouble shooting not to mention a overall glitchy inner workings. In large maps and MMOs you will always have these problems.
Hopefully they will be improved over time. But its not as big of a deal as most you make it out to be.
NO SWEAT!?:
Bertha Bot threads are a must read. Too many people jump to conclusions, at least try to do some research before you ask.
Time Of Day:
I don't understand how people complain about this, its a awesome feature. Nights in EU are one of my favorite things.
Its never too dark when the moon is out, if the moon is covered and if you really have a problem, crank of the gamma or use your scope.
Its only 1 hour of night, and half that time its not even that dark.
Glowsticks & Lights may be released in the future, won't that be awesome?
I sure think so.
Map Change:
Yes the map is different and I love it!. Surely when expecting a update as big as CryEngine 2 you expect the map to be changed. Well I did, however some people still complain.
I don't know whats wrong with them but I find something very exciting about going out into a new world not knowing what lies ahead. Its a great way to explore and ease your way into VU 10.
Of course you feel disoriented at first, but that's just more motivation to explore.
//End
IIII - The Ugly.
Time for the things that need to be shot and buried.
Entropia Worth It?:
Worth what is my question?
If you pay 10$ to see a movie at a theater do you ask yourself if its worth it? 10$ for 2 hours...
I sure know 10$ in EU can get me alot more than 2 hours of entertainment, but that depends what you spend it on.
EU is free, how can you complain. You decide what you put in, there's no reason to blame the game or others.
And even though some people get really lucky both ubers and noobs. You have to realize that wont happen to everyone.
And just because someone globals every few minutes doesn't mean they are doing any better than you. Same ratio, different amounts.
And if you don't wanna play or don't feel like its worth it, then don't play!
To be honest, I don't think your complaining is worth it.
Can't Play, Bye:
Cant play because your computer can't run it? Get a new computer.
A point has been brought up before and Ill bring it up again, its been years you have known about the CryEngine 2/VU10 update yet you didn't prepare to get a new computer?
You can't afford 650$ (You can get it for less!) for a comfortable CryEngine 2 compatible computer?
I don't understand it, people know technology changes. Did you really think you would play EU forever on a old PC that's considered ancient. If you have any mid-range game system from the last 3-5 years, chances are you can play EU VU 10 fine.
Complaints That Have No Base Of Reason:
People make threads with ridicolous claims and complaints that really have no logic behind them.
Sometimes its just more of a curiosity which is fine, but when people demand breakable trees or all the features they see in Crysis, it makes me laugh on how ridicolous that would be. Yea lets add tons more things that will slow the server and client side down on a game that's not meant to have that stuff.
Crysis is a closed level single player game. Don't expect it to be the same in EU.
Also claims about the planet being fake how you can tell Calypso is the center and that the sun revolves around it. Well obviously, someone claimed MA should have done research and make it more realistic. I can see to some extent but its not like they can model molecules and particles.
Some people ask for the impossible. Or at least the unreasonable.
//End
V - Wisdom From The Monkey
Why not spend your time exploring EU and having fun, come up with ideas and fun things to do rather than complaining and annoying others. Some complaints are needed but alot I've seen are un-necessary and not thought through.
If you think my reasoning sucks, tell me why.
If you think I'm mistaken, tell me why.
Let me hear your complaints and issues.
Let me tell you what I think.
Lets settle this once and for all, here and now.
Maybe I will learn something,
Maybe you will learn something.
Sad part is, most people will bash me without reading this. Because from the looks of it half the people only read the titles now days.
And stupid redundant complaint posts. They are doing nothing but wasting valuable server space that could be used for meaningful and fun threads.
Index:
I - What is this all about?
II - The Good.
III - The Bad.
IIII - The Ugly.
V - Wisdom From The Monkey
I - What is this all about?
I'm not here to praise MA, or complain or say what they did was the best.
However,
There has been a ridicolous amount of complaints and threads that do nothing but waste space and clutter a forum that should be used for having fun.
Yes VU 10 was released buggy and in a horrible state, but to be honest. I'm glad, I rather have it sooner than later no matter what shape its in, but that's just me and a small minority.
The fact of the matter is MA could have made a test server, people say they should have made a test server. But they didn't.
I'm shocked at some of peoples responses to the VU10 update. There has been many problems that should be addressed but complaining is no way to bring them up. MA is more likely to look at a thread labeled "Help, Crashes!" rather than, "VU 10 Sucks, I quit!".
I am going to try to address all these issues and point out what should be happening and what shouldn't.
//End
II - The Good.
Ill start with the good, and work our way down to bad/worst
. I have seen a great amount of constructive criticism threads which are a big + in my book for both solving the problem and bringing up the issue without such a derogatory manner. I have also seen a great effort of forum members trying to help other forum members solve their problems.
There has also been a good amount of threads displaying the fun people are having in the new VU.
Sadly, all these good threads probably easily get outweighed by the complaint threads.
//End
III - The Bad.
Lets jump right into this, and take a look at why I think its bad when people complain about some issues.
CTD, Login Issues:
I had Login issues and crashing issues, for me I found out the login crash was avoided by switching windows repetitively while logging in. As for ingame crashes I found that hotkeying things made me crash every 3-5 minutes and then resetting the keys took many tries, so for now I will not hotkey anything. These I think are the most important issues to be fixed right now, so that people can at least get in the game.
Rumors/Lies causing bad rep:
I've seen a thread stating that Entropia killed their graphics card. This is a flat out lie, if your graphics card died from running at 100% load then its not the games problem it is a mechanical problem with your graphics card.
You wouldn't blame a city highway if your cars motor exploded because you didn't maintain the engine.
So don't blame EU for damaging your GPU because its fan had a problem or a mechanical deficiency.
To let you know, I have ran my GPU at 100% load for over 48 hours. Your card has a problem if it cannot do that.
Controls:
First thing I noticed in VU 10, to me its not much of a issue. I think they should still have keys to turn left and right just to make it easier for those used to it. But really I don't find it that hard to adjust.
I'm running in 3rd Person , I want to turn, *Spacebar* *Move Mouse* *Spacebar*.
Not really that hard.
And I find first person more immersive, I liked these changes for the most part besides not having keys to turn in 3rd Person.
I love avatar leaning.
I don't have much to complain about with the new controls.
Hunting:
Hunting is great now, the thrill of first person hunting in the new VU is awesome. I really don't miss the old click and shoot, I probably lost alot with the old click and shoot because the auto aim did a poor job on cliffs and in certain situations.
I'm glad hunting is how it is now, and looting is easy, either double click on the mob or right click and click loot.
However they should still have someway to cator to those who want to hunt in third person.
Mining:
I mined alot this past weekend and only lost 1 claim due to it being invisible, others could see it. I just couldn't, a relog probably could have fixed it but it was only a very poor. I really don't see why so many people are complaining, if you don't like mining with the issues right now. Then don't mine! Leave the HOFs for me.
If the hills are going to pose a problem to you then simply work around them and be more aware of your surroundings. To be honest there's probably very few claims that you can't get to. I was mining on a huge mountain 900+m tall and I had no problem getting claims. A lot of people are lazy.
CND is a bit different issue, but I haven't been there yet so I wont further comment. Ill just say, if its absolutely impossible to mine up there, then yes it needs to be fixed.
Auto-Click:
Macro/Auto-Clicking was always against the EULA if I'm not mistaken, I do think MA should have a feature for crafters ingame where maybe there's a auto clicker built into the crafting dialog. Like, a button were you can enter a number of times to repeat the craft.
As for others, use a more ergonomic setup. I played EU nearly 8 hours solid yesterday (don't normally do that, lol) and I had no problems or pain. Just stretch every 15-20 minutes. Do some reading up on safe keyboard/computer use.
CryEngine 2:
I viewed VU 10 or CryEngine 2 update as a big TY from MA, seriously they went out of their way and bought a world class triple-A game engine and spent time and money implementing it. And it seems as if they are working hard to get it polished up.
I really find it rude how some people say to leave Entropia how it was, the expandability on the last engine was non-existent.
I was waiting for VU 10, and im glad its here. I was getting sick of playing a game that felt like it was from the summer of 2000.
Climbing:
Climbing isn't impossible, I like it more. The games physics is much more realistic, however yes its a bit tough to get up some mountains but usually there are ways. Just yesterday, parts my society (including me) reached the summit of a mountain at 900+m.
And it was alot of fun, if mountains are going to be something to take into consideration in gameplay, then let it be. It is more realistic.
Yes I know sometimes there's a awkward slope that you probably could get up in real life but not in the game, but what do you expect MA to do. Make a animation were you crawl on the ground and then adjust the physics so you make it up?. That would require a lot of testing and trouble shooting not to mention a overall glitchy inner workings. In large maps and MMOs you will always have these problems.
Hopefully they will be improved over time. But its not as big of a deal as most you make it out to be.
NO SWEAT!?:
Bertha Bot threads are a must read. Too many people jump to conclusions, at least try to do some research before you ask.
Time Of Day:
I don't understand how people complain about this, its a awesome feature. Nights in EU are one of my favorite things.
Its never too dark when the moon is out, if the moon is covered and if you really have a problem, crank of the gamma or use your scope.
Its only 1 hour of night, and half that time its not even that dark.
Glowsticks & Lights may be released in the future, won't that be awesome?
I sure think so.
Map Change:
Yes the map is different and I love it!. Surely when expecting a update as big as CryEngine 2 you expect the map to be changed. Well I did, however some people still complain.
I don't know whats wrong with them but I find something very exciting about going out into a new world not knowing what lies ahead. Its a great way to explore and ease your way into VU 10.
Of course you feel disoriented at first, but that's just more motivation to explore.
//End
IIII - The Ugly.
Time for the things that need to be shot and buried.
Entropia Worth It?:
Worth what is my question?
If you pay 10$ to see a movie at a theater do you ask yourself if its worth it? 10$ for 2 hours...
I sure know 10$ in EU can get me alot more than 2 hours of entertainment, but that depends what you spend it on.
EU is free, how can you complain. You decide what you put in, there's no reason to blame the game or others.
And even though some people get really lucky both ubers and noobs. You have to realize that wont happen to everyone.
And just because someone globals every few minutes doesn't mean they are doing any better than you. Same ratio, different amounts.
And if you don't wanna play or don't feel like its worth it, then don't play!
To be honest, I don't think your complaining is worth it.
Can't Play, Bye:
Cant play because your computer can't run it? Get a new computer.
A point has been brought up before and Ill bring it up again, its been years you have known about the CryEngine 2/VU10 update yet you didn't prepare to get a new computer?
You can't afford 650$ (You can get it for less!) for a comfortable CryEngine 2 compatible computer?
I don't understand it, people know technology changes. Did you really think you would play EU forever on a old PC that's considered ancient. If you have any mid-range game system from the last 3-5 years, chances are you can play EU VU 10 fine.
Complaints That Have No Base Of Reason:
People make threads with ridicolous claims and complaints that really have no logic behind them.
Sometimes its just more of a curiosity which is fine, but when people demand breakable trees or all the features they see in Crysis, it makes me laugh on how ridicolous that would be. Yea lets add tons more things that will slow the server and client side down on a game that's not meant to have that stuff.
Crysis is a closed level single player game. Don't expect it to be the same in EU.
Also claims about the planet being fake how you can tell Calypso is the center and that the sun revolves around it. Well obviously, someone claimed MA should have done research and make it more realistic. I can see to some extent but its not like they can model molecules and particles.
Some people ask for the impossible. Or at least the unreasonable.
//End
V - Wisdom From The Monkey
Why not spend your time exploring EU and having fun, come up with ideas and fun things to do rather than complaining and annoying others. Some complaints are needed but alot I've seen are un-necessary and not thought through.
If you think my reasoning sucks, tell me why.
If you think I'm mistaken, tell me why.
Let me hear your complaints and issues.
Let me tell you what I think.
Lets settle this once and for all, here and now.
Maybe I will learn something,
Maybe you will learn something.
Sad part is, most people will bash me without reading this. Because from the looks of it half the people only read the titles now days.
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