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Question: Do you think there really is a loot pool and is it different for different areas?

narfi said:
Yes. I don't like hell/foma mining/gambling.
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2 hours of hell with one or 2 people mining is enough to create a hof very eisily .

even if you got one on 1st ever drop in hell , this could be simply a layer of loot is added so that there is loot to be had from probe/loot ONE , and then it relies on its own generation.
 
My loot theory is that all loot theories are wrong, including mine, and until it is proven otherwise I will continue to believe my loot theory is the only one that is right.


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Miles
 
There is no loot pool.

There is a simulated loot pool.

There is also an auction pool.
 
GeorgeSkywalker said:
There is no loot pool.

There is a simulated loot pool.

There is also an auction pool.
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the pool is real , its a pool of peds. Peds arent real though they are simply numbers , so we have a real pool of numbers. not virtual, they exist physically on a real physical thing . Not simulated numbers, what would be the point in simulating numbers ? Those things just ARE , you cannot argue them out of existence nor can you make them any more real, not even if you tried , go figure :eyecrazy:.
 
My opinion:

Loot pool is devided into various sections.

1. Globals/HOFs have a different loot pool based on how many people are hunting that mob or how many people are crafting that item. Example .... Atrox and amps. You can almost always guarantee at least one global when doing something that everyone else is doing.

2. There is always a section of every pool put away for the main premium pool ... For ATHs ... So no one knows what's going to bring it. This is a more complex section that has nothing to do with filling up the pool ... It is a constant extra that gets to a certain amount and time then is released into the players ... Just gotta click the button at the exact milli second.

3. Mining globals work on areas and there pool and is separate to what the hunting and crafting do. Again this still connects to the premium pool for higher returns.

4. All non globals are basic tt return based so, whatever is not returned is devided again in the above.

Just my way of thinking .... I could be wrong .... But seems like that after playing these many years.
 
Just remember loot spelled backwards is tool...
 
Random distribution with a safety mechanism or two that kick in if you go too high or too low as far as tt return is concerned.
 
ofc there are no loot pool.. Thats just a made up myth so players can get some logic to their return
 
PaulCrystal said:
Random distribution with a safety mechanism or two that kick in if you go too high or too low as far as tt return is concerned.
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Distribution is not random.
 
Officially, there is a loot pool :silly2: several even ;)


Bertha Bot said:
[h=3]Developer Notes #1[/h] This Entropia Universe Buzz article is the first in a new series of Developer Notes where the development team at MindArk will share various tips and bits of information about Entropia Universe with our participants.
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To hopefully dispel this misconception, we would like to inform participants that the loot pools for each main profession (hunting, mining and manufacturing) are completely independent of one another, and that a large loot in one profession has absolutely no impact on potential loots in any of the other professions.
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Good stuff.
Does anyone kow if there is a way to used entropia tracker to see the number of globals by mob. I thought I saw it once but now I can't find it.
TIA
 
is loot pool and dynamic loot system a myth?

ok never reply to a thread before but after tonight i need to vent somewhere.
ok in the last few days i have depo a few hundred dollars a few little globals here and there nothing major so i shrugged it off but tonight i depo $100 lasted me not even 2hrs hunting only to recieve one 50 ped global and then maybe 15% return after that with at the end of the 2hrs having 30 ped left from 965ped i have tried to think of a legit excuse MA could use to explain that but cant seem to find a logical excuse so im wondering is the loot pool and "Dynamic Loot System" just another Myth like the myth of Perception when hunting and minning?
up till now ive been pretty tollerent to the poor returns but after the extended robot invasion taking all the big loots and this game taking my ped almost as fast as i can depo i dont really have much choice but to quit playing.

So all i can say is good luck to everyone and hopefully one day they will actually have a confirmed Dynamic Loot System and not just a myth that they claim to use.
 
colin1 said:
$100 lasted me not even 2hrs hunting
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Is that even possible? I mean what were you doing? :eyecrazy:

I hunt uneco, barely any consideration to markup, yet I am not sure I could even get that quick a loss :laugh:
 
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killing esto did 4 hunt using 200 ped in ammo each hunt got one 50 ped global on the first hunt then just kept going downhill till the game took my ped. i can get longer play time in a casino with $100 then what i got from EU tonight
 
mastermesh said:
Read the Q&A on Rocktropia Forums (it's a sticky over there I believe). Planet Partners control what loot is in what mob according to Neverdie... so yes, there is a loot pool and someone tells the system what to put where on each planet.
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Can we have the full quoted statement please? It seems very unlikely to me that PPs can control how much loot is in a mob's loot pool (if such a thing exists). More likely that they were talking about what items and stackables each mob can drop. Although I thought I'd read that MA have control over that too.
 
Nighthawk said:
Is that even possible? I mean what were you doing? :eyecrazy:

I hunt uneco, barely any consideration to markup, yet I am not sure I could even get that quick a loss :laugh:
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Well unfortunately hes not the only one that has similar results often . Its very easily done , depo 300 ped , gun costs you half that , repairs armour/fap/amp ,leaves you with less than 100 ped ammo , very little chance at finding your return on the deposit . You can quickly lose your cycle amount and just be left with 3/4 of a gun and no way to use it.
What i do in this case is sell the remaining gun and go mining and hope that has better results or revert to my backup ul guns and low cycle runs
Its not fun or entertaining when this happens.
edit ok i reread the other post 100$ in 2hrs, hmmm , no even i couldnt do that :D, lost completely? . i find it hard to believe without more detailed logs .
 
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slasha said:
edit ok i reread the other post 100$ in 2hrs, hmmm , no even i couldnt do that :D, lost completely? . i find it hard to believe without more detailed logs .
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I don't think he's saying he lost $100 in two hours. He's saying that two hours after depositing he had no PED left to hunt with. That's easy enough to do. Start with ped card on 0 PED. Deposit $100 and get ped card up to 965 PED. Buy a full tt LAW330 Jungle L or LR53 L, ped card down to 565 PED. Do some repairs that were waiting for the deposit and buy some ME, ped card down to 450 PED. Buy 450 PED ammo, ped card down to 0 PED. Shoot all your ammo, have a bad run and get 250 PED back. tt it all and buy more ammo. Shoot it all again and have another bad run, get 150 PED back. Repair all your stuff again. Ped card about 0 in two hours. Not lost $100 in two hours though, it just feels like it.

Bankroll management is the real issue here. If you're depositing $100 to get your PED card up to 1000 PED, you shouldn't be shooting anything big enough to be able to shoot that amount of PED in two hours. A bad run will inevitably wipe you out sooner or later. Shoot smaller mobs at a rate of about 100 PED per hour and his deposit would have lasted a good while. If small mobs bore you, you need to save up for a bigger deposit to build the bankroll needed for bigger mobs.
 
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colin1 said:
killing esto did 4 hunt using 200 ped in ammo each hunt got one 50 ped global on the first hunt then just kept going downhill till the game took my ped. i can get longer play time in a casino with $100 then what i got from EU tonight
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Hehe I know that feeling. I thought I would start off my 10K trox mission with a bang. Did 3 200 ped runs, first run 53 ped and no mini's, second no mini's and no gbls at all, third no mini's and 1 51 pedder.
 
Jimmy B said:
Repair all your stuff again.
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nutter :p

If you're depositing $100 to get your PED card up to 1000 PED, you shouldn't be shooting anything big enough to be able to shoot that amount of PED in two hours
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good point .

you just gave me a moment of "clarity" this game is making me go mad i think . makes you forget by not rewarding all the time , and rewarding crazy behaviour the first times . then it takes it . it takes it all. mummble mumble ect...
 
All these "pro et contra" lootpoll theories are here for ages.

But no one ever directly said what is lootpoll. So we can only speculate about existence of something that isnt clearly defined.

Define it first.
 
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