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I was checking out some music on youtube, and I came across this one...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related

Edit: It sounds like the "Sundance" track from the "Sounds of Entropia Volume 2" found here: http://www.planetcalypso.com/media/music/
Thanks N. Radioactive for finding it.

Listen to the music, does it sound like on of the tracks in EU? I could swear I've heard it ingame...
If it is the same... Can somebody explain to me what happened here? Did the artist take it from EU? Did EU take it from the artist? Is it some public track anybody can use? Or did they happen to come up with the same sound?
Note: It's not all of it, but a few pieces.

P.S. Not sure if I posted in the right forum...
 
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Ah it works now. Yeah the violin part is the same I would say... Maybe they used something like garage band where there are pre mad loops that you can put together to make a song :laugh:
 
Ok I edited in just the link...
 
N. Radioactive said:
Ah it works now. Yeah the violin part is the same I would say... Maybe they used something like garage band where there are pre mad loops that you can put together to make a song :laugh:
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Yeah, probably either a loop included with software or from a royalty-free sample CD. An easy and popular way to get some sounds from a track, but the risk you run is that something like this can happen :)

There's a track in one of the GTA games (Vice City I think) on one of the Latin radio stations that uses some horn lines from a sample CD - it sounds remarkably like a track I did a few years back, because I used the same samples :)
 
Yep when i heard that soundtrack it immediately reminded me of Fort Minor.
I am not too concerned though, some music sounds similar to another.
 
Oleg said:
Yeah, probably either a loop included with software or from a royalty-free sample CD. An easy and popular way to get some sounds from a track, but the risk you run is that something like this can happen :)

There's a track in one of the GTA games (Vice City I think) on one of the Latin radio stations that uses some horn lines from a sample CD - it sounds remarkably like a track I did a few years back, because I used the same samples :)
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Hmm ok that makes some sense, though I'm not entirely sure what you mean...

N. Radioactive said:
Lol no clue. I know lets ask Marco :D
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lol darn I just got a new phone, lost his number :silly2:
Support maybe? Nah... Take too long for an automated answer...

kyleen said:
Yep when i heard that soundtrack it immediately reminded me of Fort Minor.
I am not too concerned though, some music sounds similar to another.
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I didn't know who Fort Minor was until yesterday :ahh: was looking up "Where'd you go?" - reminds me of somebody I miss a lot :cry:
 
It's probably from some generic music/sound database. Many game developer and movie producers use these. Wouldnt surprise me if some composer or music group used them to create a song either. Probably the case here.

There are quite a few terror movies in which the creatures sound exactly like Atrox or some other EU mobs, too.
Both older and newer movies.
 
Gluepot said:
I was checking out some music on youtube, and I came across this one...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related

Edit: It sounds like the "Sundance" track from the "Sounds of Entropia Volume 2" found here: http://www.planetcalypso.com/media/music/
Thanks N. Radioactive for finding it.

Listen to the music, does it sound like on of the tracks in EU? I could swear I've heard it ingame...
If it is the same... Can somebody explain to me what happened here? Did the artist take it from EU? Did EU take it from the artist? Is it some public track anybody can use? Or did they happen to come up with the same sound?
Note: It's not all of it, but a few pieces.

P.S. Not sure if I posted in the right forum...
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N. Radioactive said:
Aha go here.

http://www.planetcalypso.com/media/music/

Then Sounds of Entropia: Volume 2, then on the track named Sundance and there it is :D
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It's actually because all of the members of Fort Minor are avid Entropia Universe players :wise: . haha jk.

But seriously, that is so cool!! Amazing find!
 
Huskie said:
It's probably from some generic music/sound database. Many game developer and movie producers use these. Wouldnt surprise me if some composer or music group used them to create a song either. Probably the case here.

There are quite a few terror movies in which the creatures sound exactly like Atrox or some other EU mobs, too.
Both older and newer movies.
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Yeah I've heard a few of those, I'm always like, wtf? Atrox?
 
Larkin said:
Yeah I've heard a few of those, I'm always like, wtf? Atrox?
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Lol that must have been odd, thinking you're going cray from playing too much EU because you start to hear the mob sounds everywhere :laugh:
 
N. Radioactive said:
Lol that must have been odd, thinking you're going cray from playing too much EU because you start to hear the mob sounds everywhere :laugh:
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You know something's up when you sit at the keys with some brass lined up, and the first thing you play sounds exactly like the global sound!
:duh:
 
a little research of things ....

first:

Wikipedia said:
Fort Minor is the hip-hop side-project of Mike Shinoda, the vocalist, guitarist and songwriter of the alternative rock band Linkin Park.
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so the chance that the "stole" something is likely as its linkin park, but very very unlikely as they are backed by Tower Records a HUGE recoding label that would not let them get away with it.

second:
according to the EU website Sundance is performed by Lars Falk, a Swedish performer.

third:
music laws allow for "sampling" of music parts in "new" songs.

forth:
i can hear the part you are referencing to (the string instrument sound) but it just doesnt sound quite right .... maybe ill have to load up the old audio editing software and break it down.
 
Gluepot said:
Hmm ok that makes some sense, though I'm not entirely sure what you mean...
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Here's an example: http://www.midi-classics.com/f/f21969.htm

That's the CD I used in the Latin track I was talking about (actually I used Volume 3 which doesn't seem to be on that site). I paid for the CD (considerably more expensive than a regular CD album) and a license to use the material from it in my own work.

It's just a quick way of getting a melody or a drum loop to build a track around. Just like electronic and hip hop musicians often sample from records, same thing but it's easy and cheap because the license is pre-cleared and the samples are created and released specifically for this purpose.

Eron² said:
second:
according to the EU website Sundance is performed by Lars Falk, a Swedish performer.
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He's the composer and producer, not a performer in the regular sense of the word, so it's kind of misleading if it says that (but technically correct I suppose).

Eron² said:
third:
music laws allow for "sampling" of music parts in "new" songs.
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Not without permission or payment (unless you live in Somalia or somewhere without copyright laws).
 
Oleg said:
There we go, good find :) Is that your track?
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no thats the third page i got to when i entered

"fort minor believe strings"

into Bing :)

after the third page i had

GarageBand loop "Orchestra Strings 08

so i binged that and wallah my 3 minute search was at an end, gotta love the net :)
 
Loads of Eu sounds are from sample banks that you either pay for or get royalty free.

So many sound in EU are also used in radio adverts tv programs more ;)
 
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Gluepot said:
I was checking out some music on youtube, and I came across this one...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix4Cu6Jj5A&feature=related

Edit: It sounds like the "Sundance" track from the "Sounds of Entropia Volume 2" found here: http://www.planetcalypso.com/media/music/
Thanks N. Radioactive for finding it.

Listen to the music, does it sound like on of the tracks in EU? I could swear I've heard it ingame...
If it is the same... Can somebody explain to me what happened here? Did the artist take it from EU? Did EU take it from the artist? Is it some public track anybody can use? Or did they happen to come up with the same sound?
Note: It's not all of it, but a few pieces.

P.S. Not sure if I posted in the right forum...
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Oh yeah, that song :)

The "violin part" was used on a boring german TV show inbetween and/or as intro. :)

Seems to be a free sample...or a very well know song. :)
 
N. Radioactive said:
Lol that must have been odd, thinking you're going cray from playing too much EU because you start to hear the mob sounds everywhere :laugh:
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LOL yeah i know!

Profit said:
You know something's up when you sit at the keys with some brass lined up, and the first thing you play sounds exactly like the global sound!
:duh:
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haha!

Oleg said:
Not without permission or payment (unless you live in Somalia or somewhere without copyright laws).
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Well, many big Mash-Up artists including Girl Talk take limited amounts of copyrighted material to create their songs --> he uses the Fair Use doctrine of the United States Copyright Law to do this.
 
Larkin said:
Well, many big Mash-Up artists including Girl Talk take limited amounts of copyrighted material to create their songs --> he uses the Fair Use doctrine of the United States Copyright Law to do this.
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I don't know the artist, but he doesn't, it's either illegal or he has permission. Fair Use doesn't cover stuff like this, it's primarily to do with use in education. It's a common myth that Fair Use can be used as a means to circumvent copyright infringment (similar to the rumour that you don't require sample clearance if you sample less than 5 seconds, which is not true at all).
 
Omg I checked garage band and ther's a few of the loops that are on EU songs... I guess we know what they used to make the songs :laugh:
 
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