Has the EU lost its luster???

[Rayne Jade]

I think you misunderstood Etopia's post.

For most people the thrill of EU is the global or HoF, but for those like Etopia, Auktuma and others, who Global regularly while crafting, it still isn't enough to ensure a profit and because of the regular nature of them, it isn't exciting anymore.

I can't tell you how many times I have sent a "grats for all your globals tonight" message to some of the better crafters. More often the response is, "thanks, just another night at work" lol...

They are crafting such high end items that less than 50 PED value on a completed item is crap. So the globals are nothing and the cost per click still means that a 100 PED item isn't ensuring a profit.

Hope that makes sense now.

So absolutely true!! I had the pleasure of talking to a few of the more well known crafters and despite the name flying around as a global all the time, they are losing money 90% of the time. BUT!!! Without these people tirelessly crafting OUR oreamps and OUR Breers and OUR swords we would be standing around sweating mobs again. If you think WE are bored... try an evening in their shoes. Click.... click... click...

 

[Numa]

I really don't play an awful lot lately, and to be honest, I don't really get the excitement I used to when I originally started playing this game, when I could see something for my effort. Skills that I was gaining and knew that as I gained them, I was getting better at fapping, because I could see my fap increase it's health every so often, and my shooting skills were improving and I could see that. That was exciting.

Then going off and trying my first time to hunt an Atrox, with a lack of weapons and armor with a few team mates trying to take him down. That was exciting.

Now though, I really don't see the point of the skills at all, unless you have a load of money to buy skills or were an Uber before the Nerf. Now it's just monotonous. But wait, the Chinese love Grinding away. However, they also like Storylines too, and have quests to go on. I don't think I have seen many Chinese MMO's that lacked in Storyline or quests. I'm sure they'll find EU exciting though.

Plus, the Stories MA come up with really are just a Carrot on a Stick, that keep people hoping for more, while they put in more money making ideas for them, and not an awful lot of effort into the actual Story. The Stories have gotten boring, and end up being bottomless money pits.

I play other games at the moment, and even other machines that have some cracking games on, and for the money I pay for that entertainment, I am enjoying myself a lot. Yes, I might not get any money back, but look at it this way. You put money into EU, how much of it do you really get back, unless you have an Uber Item?

MA need to rethink there money making ideas and start making a game again. I think they forgot that without there hardcore clients, they would have no game at all.

 

[Dahlifyr]

I really dont think that MA carse about "ordinary players" that thinks EU getting boring. They just want investors with big fat jucey wallets to be in this slotmachine. We the ordinary players, that dosent play for the sake of earning money, just have to find another game to enjoy. But there is always people willing to gamble/invest so EU will go on for many more years. So yeah, for me EU has become sooo boring. If i had much money, i guess i would still loved it, just like the good old days.

 

[SpikeBlack]

I concur with the statement that our socs keep us in game not the game itself, if it weren't for ED I'd have given up months ago.

When ever I got bored in the past I done a few things:

I used to do mob running / collecting at Camp Pheonix but MA nerfed that with the turret.

Rescue runs, head out to the revivals on Eudoria that are the in middle of nowhere and try to escort any noobs who have got stuck, the one south west of Fort Argus is usually a good one to check or the ones on the way to the oilrig for those that still believe the 3 year old FAQ's they find.

TP running new recruits or even complete strangers (as long as the loot is on split stacks).

I think I helped a little when we all got dumped at the outpost W of Fort Troy after a server reboot and acted as an atrox decoy for some of the overloaded ppl, so they could reach the water and swim back to PA.

The last thing I do though is hunt, I can't remeber the last time I broke even. I've tried moving locations, mobs and it's never worked for me. I remember seeing a 22k hunting global last year and everyone in EU was talking about it and congratulating the team that got it but even thats small compared to some now. First think I do when I enter the game now is check the hof table and see how big the top few are and judge if its worth even starting to hunt or mine.

MA should really start taking advice on how the game should go from us, the people who play it. If the ideas were posted into a thread we couldn't read that way if multiple people come up with the same idea they would all get the credit but without the accusations of idea theft. I'd suggest emailling it but I think they would get lost in the report cases. Any ideas implemented and the people who suggested it get something uniquely personalised to them.

 

[Dancer]

Ultimately it is going to fall to us as players to make our own excitement in the EU, so let's, in the immortal words of Larry the Cable Guy, "git 'er done!"

Well if its our job to make it a fun game then what the hell do we need MA for at all..
They should make the game fun and not such a rip off
`I got a 1400 ped hof 2 days ago and im ho hum boring. I know ill just waste it all hunting so im not im thinking about reselling or something thats not a RIPOFF

If i have to makle a crap game exciting thats alot like paying for a hooker then jerking yourself off.

 

[black_rain13]

Well if its our job to make it a fun game then what the hell do we need MA for at all..
They should make the game fun and not such a rip off
`I got a 1400 ped hof 2 days ago and im ho hum boring. I know ill just waste it all hunting so im not im thinking about reselling or something thats not a RIPOFF

If i have to makle a crap game exciting thats alot like paying for a hooker then jerking yourself off.

I think you mis-understood my comment... it happens, don't worry... As it has been mentioned before and certainly will be mentioned again; MA is doing the MA thing. They are going in their direction and all the suggestions/whining/complaining/what-ever in the world isn't going to make them change their direction. Unless someone is dumping millions of $$$$$ into MA and then saying, "I want you to make storylines and excitement," MA gives little heed to what we, the players, have asked for.

On occassion we see little things here and there that we ask for... for example, we got "Windowed Mode" and we got support for various screen resolutions. There are more examples, but over-all, we have seen that the bigger focus from MA is on developing the EU into a virtual marketplace where people spend insane amounts of REAL money on virtual items that have no physical presence. This direction is making money, LOTS OF MONEY, for MA, so there is little incentive for them to change directions now.

Personally, I have seen countless numbers of ways that MA could expand the horizons of the EU and still make even more money for themselves, but it is a given fact that no two people see the same things in exactly the same way, so MA's vision of what the EU should be is likely not the same as OUR vision of what the EU should be.

That being the case... and also being that we all seem to either love the EU, or we are just addicted to it... we really have to take the initiative to make our own excitement. Find new ways to make things fun for ourselves again. Work together to make things fun for others.... Either that, or we are destined to live short, meaningless lives within the EU and then simply burn out and fade away.

Perhaps we at EF can organize some sort of "Events Commission" where we work together to get sponsors, organize sponsored events and find new ways to make things more interesting for everyone.

Sure it sucks that we have to do it ourselves... perhaps doing it ourselves will only reinforce MA's mindset that EU is great as it is... but if we don't try something, what is there left to do aside from sell out and walk away?

 

[matthew]

thx for the job offer kiri i'll bear it in mind

i was just thinking maby they sould bring out some new free skills maby like sweating or something were u buy the gear to do the skill then go out and make money from it

here an eg. of the top of my head, fishing u go out to maby a specal shop or something buy a rode and some bait and then go to a fishing lake or fish respwn stop and fish u can then catch fish to sell of for people to use as maby a lure or something

 

[Dancer]

Yes I agree.
See what we have here is a situation where if we as players are not happy we cannot protest or boycott for fear of getting banned.
Which is totally unlike any other situation in life.
So MA has us by the balls.

Keep ypour dam mouth shut or quit.
Quitting is what MA wants us to do, they get the 100 ped in cashing out they get 10% of your hard earned skills and they get 1 less person semi close to maybe breaking even.
They have huge loots on tiny mobs in hopes this game is 90% noobies 10% ubers and no one in between
I think it goes beyond people who are rich and people who arent rich. Im pretty sure most of the ubers are from time to time up as far as peds but overall have lost so many peds in contrast its not funny.
I dont think they are uber as much as they are addicted.
When they charge 300% for an L item or more it only means for that one they made they didnt make 3 ..
I think it would be a good contest to see who has made profit in the game over 100,000 US .. I guarentee you NOT ONE person in entire game has made a profit of 100,000 dollars ever and never will. That says alot because many have invested far over 100,000 US but one day MA will screw them also, like in 2 years when they introduce 50 more banking license for 5 ped each..LOL

I have heard that buying skills is better than gaining them due to costs now and i agree, but what is the point in skills if your not gonna say hunt with them due to losing so much.

Its like a double negative. The more you hunt the more you will lose, but the more skills you will have, so you can hunt and lose more.
Thats what the biggest problem is in the game. There is nothing to look forward to any goals dont matter . How do you set goals when even if your totally 10k skills in every aspect you still lose.
So then you think well then i just sell my skills. Then what is the point at all.
What are you gonna do if you had 10000000 peds right now.
I personally would be afraid to do anything but withdraw cause you know youll just lose it all as opposed to make it grow.
Thats also the problem as eutopic said, When you hof it hardly makes up for what you lost so there is no sense of progression
Like before loot nerf you could get a global and say i made 30 peds profit.. so i am ahead so ill invest that in a new gun or more ammo for bigger hunts. Now the game is like, if you win bog you know how much you lost to get that hof you are frozen. You dont wanna risk losing it cause that what you know you will do. I dont know how many people have said i got a 10k hof and now its all gone. Thats not progression, thats just getting ahead and then giving it all back, so it like nothing happened. You got 10k peds and now your broke just like before the 10k peds so really the 10k peds was meaningless.
Thats the problem with the game , as one player put it, I have no gioals and goals are meaningless. I dont ever hear people posting I hit Master in rifle or I hit this skill level , people used to post when they hit certain skills and it was a true progression, you are now better than you were and it matters.
Now being an able laser sniper and being a master laser sniper means little.
So now i find myself after getting a good score, im frozen. I have 2500 peds and im not giving it back. Ill resell or ill do nothing. But my options are lose it hunting lose it crafting lose it mining. Thats my options with my peds.
Then one hits the sad realization that even if you had 1,000,000 peds you still wouldnt want to play this crap game. I think that reflects on Mindark more than 1000 eggs would ever conpensate for.

 

[rwin]

When I started playing 8 months ago it was ALL very exciting
Everywhere was new, and everything was fun.

Now, though, I'm still hunting mostly the same MOBs (just taking them down a little faster), still getting killed by mostly the same MOBS (just not a quickly), still using the same equipment I bought back in Nov 2006 (Just barely able to keep it repaired), still mining the same stuff in the same quantities, and still failing at the same crafting prints.

Makes Me wonder why they keep adding New areas with New MOBs (or other players) that take Me out faster and faster, New materials I couldn't possibly hope to reach, and New equipment I'll never be able to craft OR buy... It seems all "new development" is designed to enhance the experience of 2 groups:

1) Players who have been on since the beginning and earned UBER equipment/skills when it was possible to do so.

2) RICH Noobs who can DEPOSIT massive $$ and buy UBER equipment and skill chips.


Just like real life, the virtual world is quickly becoming the playground of the rich, and the "not rich" are being ignored by those in charge...

We have been playing the same amount of time, im wondering what type of gear your using that you bought when you first started? Also what mobs you hunting? what are you crafting? It sound's like we are playing in 2 different worlds.
The difference between what I could do in December and what I can do now is like throwing a bullet vice shooting it from a gun.
Im certainly not rich, I play on 20 to 30 $ a month. Skills at the high end may be harder to achieve but not as hard at the lower levels.
in January, An Argo hunter could kill me with a sideways glance, now I can handle them- short of a crit, on the same ghost and 2a plate I had for the last 4 months. Atrax and Atrox 3 and 4 at a time vice running to the river every time I hear one snort.There are several new components with a high value that come from low mobs. Mining with less than 1k skills south west of the new TP's has paid off quite well. Personally, I have plenty to try and work towards - I would think at a high level, after 5 years when you can do everything and kill anything it may start to get boring, but not where I, or you are sitting now.

 

[John Critchon]

Yes I agree.
See what we have here is a situation where if we as players are not happy we cannot protest or boycott for fear of getting banned.
Which is totally unlike any other situation in life.
So MA has us by the balls.

Keep ypour dam mouth shut or quit.
Quitting is what MA wants us to do, they get the 100 ped in cashing out they get 10% of your hard earned skills and they get 1 less person semi close to maybe breaking even.
They have huge loots on tiny mobs in hopes this game is 90% noobies 10% ubers and no one in between
I think it goes beyond people who are rich and people who arent rich. Im pretty sure most of the ubers are from time to time up as far as peds but overall have lost so many peds in contrast its not funny.
I dont think they are uber as much as they are addicted.
When they charge 300% for an L item or more it only means for that one they made they didnt make 3 ..
I think it would be a good contest to see who has made profit in the game over 100,000 US .. I guarentee you NOT ONE person in entire game has made a profit of 100,000 dollars ever and never will. That says alot because many have invested far over 100,000 US but one day MA will screw them also, like in 2 years when they introduce 50 more banking license for 5 ped each..LOL

I have heard that buying skills is better than gaining them due to costs now and i agree, but what is the point in skills if your not gonna say hunt with them due to losing so much.

Its like a double negative. The more you hunt the more you will lose, but the more skills you will have, so you can hunt and lose more.
Thats what the biggest problem is in the game. There is nothing to look forward to any goals dont matter . How do you set goals when even if your totally 10k skills in every aspect you still lose.
So then you think well then i just sell my skills. Then what is the point at all.
What are you gonna do if you had 10000000 peds right now.
I personally would be afraid to do anything but withdraw cause you know youll just lose it all as opposed to make it grow.
Thats also the problem as eutopic said, When you hof it hardly makes up for what you lost so there is no sense of progression
Like before loot nerf you could get a global and say i made 30 peds profit.. so i am ahead so ill invest that in a new gun or more ammo for bigger hunts. Now the game is like, if you win bog you know how much you lost to get that hof you are frozen. You dont wanna risk losing it cause that what you know you will do. I dont know how many people have said i got a 10k hof and now its all gone. Thats not progression, thats just getting ahead and then giving it all back, so it like nothing happened. You got 10k peds and now your broke just like before the 10k peds so really the 10k peds was meaningless.
Thats the problem with the game , as one player put it, I have no gioals and goals are meaningless. I dont ever hear people posting I hit Master in rifle or I hit this skill level , people used to post when they hit certain skills and it was a true progression, you are now better than you were and it matters.
Now being an able laser sniper and being a master laser sniper means little.
So now i find myself after getting a good score, im frozen. I have 2500 peds and im not giving it back. Ill resell or ill do nothing. But my options are lose it hunting lose it crafting lose it mining. Thats my options with my peds.
Then one hits the sad realization that even if you had 1,000,000 peds you still wouldnt want to play this crap game. I think that reflects on Mindark more than 1000 eggs would ever conpensate for.

Erm no offence but that's slighty off topic and a load of BS.
I think the thread was for people who like EU to post there opinions on what would make it more enjoyable for us, not for people who want to moan about the way "you always lose"

 

[Supajosh]

all this new l stuff , supposedly so that normal players can hunt big stuff to in theory enjoy them selves more and potentially get bigger loot , 9 times out of 10 exo has a higher hof on the hof list and its usually by someone thats been playing for a week or 2 ..

so were either stuck here hunting easy mobs , or well , nothing , give us something to do ma please !!!!!!

 

[rwin]

all this new l stuff , supposedly so that normal players can hunt big stuff to in theory enjoy them selves more and potentially get bigger loot , 9 times out of 10 exo has a higher hof on the hof list and its usually by someone thats been playing for a week or 2 ..

I believe this happens with the mobs that are hunted the most. check out the hof/globals on Aluri, not an easy mob.

so were either stuck here hunting easy mobs , or well , nothing , give us something to do ma please !!!!!!

Seriously, Go out and find or create something to do. This isn't directed at you (Supajosh)in particular but all the bored unhappy masses that seem to be around. I see many people talking about more events, plot line more content, and of course boredom.
If your not challenged in your irl job do you stick forever, or try and find something better?
Anyone who is smart enough to install this game and play it can put on their thinking cap and figure something out. If people are not pleased with the way things are going there are 3 choices,
keep doing what you are now and hope it changes.
quit.
Make some changes yourself.

There are plenty of posts telling MA what we want.
Many, many posts ask for quests or events and I only see a handful of people who make events.
I'll be starting my own soon.
Do likewise, and we will all have plenty of things to do.

 

[BlackMagicWoman]

I believe this happens with the mobs that are hunted the most. check out the hof/globals on Aluri, not an easy mob.



Seriously, Go out and find or create something to do. This isn't directed at you (Supajosh)in particular but all the bored unhappy masses that seem to be around. I see many people talking about more events, plot line more content, and of course boredom.
If your not challenged in your irl job do you stick forever, or try and find something better?
Anyone who is smart enough to install this game and play it can put on their thinking cap and figure something out. If people are not pleased with the way things are going there are 3 choices,
keep doing what you are now and hope it changes.
quit.
Make some changes yourself.

There are plenty of posts telling MA what we want.
Many, many posts ask for quests or events and I only see a handful of people who make events.
I'll be starting my own soon.
Do likewise, and we will all have plenty of things to do.

Errr, what is with the debates and advices thingies? We sure didnt come here to sit on the psychologyst's couch or to impose our view about EU to others...
We came to share our thoughts...there is no wrong OR right. Just how we FEEL.
I know some ppl act like they take tons of prozac and they are all happy no matter what , and also people that just dont feel satisfied. Some have good reasons to be optimists, some do it only for the sake of it or if their "shining star" tell them to...
Some just like to have the unpopular view cause "its cool", others do the opposite cause they get +reps...
But when someone just says how they feel, honestly, frankly, in the most candid way, and we start to bring arguments of how wrong they are, its just silly. They sure must have good reasons... I know I do!

Btw: I have ALWAYS hated free advices.... I bet others do as well...

 

[John Critchon]

Errr, what is with the debates and advices thingies? We sure didnt come here to sit on the psychologyst's couch or to impose our view about EU to others...
We came to share our thoughts...there is no wrong OR right. Just how we FEEL.

I have agree with this point. Most people i this thread have shown concern about the fun factor in EU nowadays. IMO it's not constructive to tell one another to quit. Also people banging on about the skill "nerf"(btw wtf does that mean) need to realise why it was introduced, I for one am glad it came about. MA won't change the skill system because it makes it hard for some players who thrive on reaching a certain lvl, it is a challenge after all. As for the new L stuff i do agree that it drops a bit more than i'd like to see. But at the same time the armour is reasonable cheap for the protection it offers and makes a welcome change to my game. But lets think about it if MA were to change the skill system and items back to the good old days. What would that do? We'd just be doing the same shit as we are now, we'd only be doing it without buying a new L gun as often

 

[Eelco]

looking at the ratings.
seems that EU is going downsides!

MA you really have to do something about this.
I voted " Not.. yet",
Because i believe that if the market prices keep changing like this.
It will be so much harder for newbies to start out.
that 1/1000newcomers will stay and that would make it boring for
the ubers.
No newbies = no economy for low lvl's.

 

[John Critchon]

looking at the ratings.
seems that EU is going downsides!

MA you really have to do something about this.
I voted " Not.. yet",
Because i believe that if the market prices keep changing like this.
It will be so much harder for newbies to start out.
that 1/1000newcomers will stay and that would make it boring for
the ubers.
No newbies = no economy for low lvl's.

LOL were the ones that have control over the market prices.
And i think more than 1/1000 newcomers will stay because it is free and the social aspect is entertaining. + u can do the pogo. The challange on MA's side is to introduce something that will attract the masses and give them something to do other than mindless clicking

 

[Kerham]

Seriously, Go out and find or create something to do.

Eh lol why?

"This restaurant sucks, food is delivered late & cold, they misplaced salt of sugar and are telling me that the crap plastic spoon I'm using is a one of its kind masterpiece, the bartender is a grobian monkey and the cook says is fresh chicken when it smells like a dog, prices are exorbitant but oh let's have a positive attitude, look how we can play cards on the table"

That's just wrong attitude, man, friends can find me on e-mail or EF or yms, and for the rest what? Why should I use EU for a 3D chat or not other game? Why to exist a passive comunity in EU? To show newbies that "somebody is playing, this game must be good"? No way.

And about rich investors... Those depends on the large masses, especially the banks and malls buyers.

Unfortunatelly, the last sucker is not born yet, and the coming generation will never know that sometimes was a period when having 70% return was a dreaded moment. They will play with regular 30% return, waiting for the big 5k-10k to come up and they will consider it normal. That is what disturbes me and that's why I'll take a break. Seems like MA is trying to see just how much they can push it. So I am not staying to bend more.

And I'd accord a second chance if I'd see some effort from MA in that direction. I have this blueprint of my dreams, Smacker 2 (L), unlimited bp. It uses components with markup >10k%. Smacker 2, with which you can kill cornundacauda and alike. That means that in long term, the combination I wanted, to craft my own gloves, because it is one of the few fun parts in EU, is impossible because you'll 100% guaranteed loose. Even if you try to loot your own components. And since in these times, I could risk consecutively runs of 30% return in mining+crafting+hunting, to close the whole circle of using that bp, would basically mean I'd throw in the air aprox 300 peds in clean markup and decay on daily basis, which I have no chances in hell to recuperate.

Then I ask you, if MA is liar with all those nice commercials when they say u to try to craft your own equipment, if MA balls wanted to make crafting these gloves impossible with stupid droprate of components, if MA's intention is brutally obvious to make me (or any other in that situation) loose, without any excuse for low skills, why the hell I should stay here? Why I should find something fun to do? To discover that next VU fucks it up too?

 

[KeynesAlley]

there are a couple of common complaints, which I hear all of the time. randomly, this is one:

I don't know where to begin with how poor a strategy this is. one should not expect globals and HoFs. they're something that just happens. further, if you're consistently losing 50-80%, you are definately doing something wrong. I consider a loss of 30-40% to be horrid and I immediately attempt to correct it. usually, I can average over 80% return. I don't think I try as hard as I could, though.

personally, I consider this sort of thing to be the peak of boredom. having someone tell you what to do isn't very creative. I create "quests" like this for myself all of the time. I call them missions and work them into my various plans.

Sorry, I don't believe you average 80% return.

Everyone else is losing 50-80% and you are getting 80% return and you say it could be higher if you tried harder. Nope, I ain't buying it.

 

[Lugzan]

60% saying bored or bored to hell means something is wrong. after the last 1k ped minuses I'm really getting (how to put it correctly...) ironic and disappointed and just feeling very disappointed, even start to laugh about the current situation - no matter what you do, the return is -50 .. -70 % constantly =) really, it is actually pathetic...

why should someone spend thousands to get 1-2 levels of progress for it in skill and not even having items in loot? I do not count stuff with 105% markup as items in this case, even if the stuff that has a higher markup (indication of demand in my eyes!) there's no use selling it when it has low tt and comes in loot very seldom. so, I'm asking once again, what's the point? I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND MY LIMITED TIME LOOKING FOR ANOTHER LIMITED ITEM AS THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE + NOR DO THEY EXIST FOR HIGHER LEVELS!!!

the PR expression "dynamic" comes in handy here! the only hope for me at the moment not to cash out is that it might be a test for us. if we keep spending (I'm not going to name it investing!) like previously, it might pay up one day... hmmm, let me think... no, not fun waiting ages and not cheap either. it definately is one of the most expensive games available! =)

until then, let's assume a miracle will happen, I'm just going to enjoy a couple of short hunts every now and then probably and really looking forward to see how MA will wiggle out of this situation

mayeb MA has to take a closer look at people's wishes? players want fun, not profit constantly. and that means skill and item progression!

//out to smoke...

P.S. have fun!


J.

 

[Jane QPO Doe]

Bored outta my skull,

Quitted playing for over 8 months now, havent logged in anymore, wont do that either. When i just started playing , it was fun, and all items were affordable, like for instance the ml, 1500 ped and you had one. Hofs, Globals were nice, included nice items. Later less and less items , ye later the L items. But for a lil upgrade you now have to deposit loads of money, ridiculous.

All i did was lil chatting, hunting, click click click loot, poof , no loot, click click click poof, ......swirlies /twopec

Enjoying another game right now, which is affordable and mobs always contain loot..

 

[Argh non Ral]

Boring like hell...
Since a month now that i put all my armors and guns on the wall.
I touth staring over with noob- or no gear at all could bring some fun for me.
Runing around in my orange furgaba basic clothes... sometimes helping newcommers ... chatting a bit.


But even with this low pedburning high social life, I get more and more bored, angry and dissapointed because of constant ctd-s, conn lost-s, bugs...

(...not to mention the behavior of MA.)

 

[Etopia]

I detect some movement from that ring located in your underwear..... aka talking out your arse

its the same names i see 70%minimum of the time hoffing or globalling on the same mobs, hogglo aurli, etc etc etc, or same people crafting.

so yes their common but for the same people over and over again

I think you havent understand at all what i say ... and worst , i do bielive you have no clue what its going on in that game...

You whant global on aurly ?
I will give you the fast easy recipe.
1) buy a weapon that use lots of amo... like 15 ped shot.
2) buy 5k ped at TT
3) go in front of baby aurly , and click like a crazy during som hour with no pause at all
4) get tons of global and hof.

But , dont forget the 5...
5) do the calcul of the money you spend , and figure out that som hour clicking costed you 2 K ped...

Thats for hunter...
Must say , hunter are very cheap people compared to crafter...

For craft its same recipe , but for 5k ped material , its only som min cliking.

As mater of fact , my personal record is a lost of 4k ped in 40 second...

Sure , if you hunt with opalo , time you gambel 1k ped amo , a normal crafter will have gambel 50k ped...so , he will for sure have more global... but that does not make them taste good or be a special time.

What you total fail to understand , is that , in old time , all mobs had a loot... all kill had a loot....
So , when hunting , you was sure to make 70 to 90% return on regular basis.
Global was rare , and hof was an event....
Someone breaking 2k was an hero for 1 week....
Back then , i had an ATH of 1007 ped in tailoring that was displayed like 9 month.... during som month , evryone in town was saying me gratz.People was happy for me , and was saying gratz with heart.
Hof , man , hof was a big loot with item inside... yes , item... most hof had item back them.
Getting a hof was a very special moment , very intense , it was money yes... but its was celebertie , PM to know what nice item you had,joy and happyness.

What is hof nowday ?
A bunch on money ( ped or oil dont care) ...som people that send you a gratz with PM , and you reply thanks to be polite , but there no item , and you know that 1k ped animal oil costed you 3k ped lost amo...

I wont even speak about skill , about the unreachable item....

 

[NastyCenturion]

Hof , man , hof was a big loot with item inside... yes , item most hof had item back them.Getting a hof was a very special moment , very intense , it was money yes... but its was celebertie , PM to know what nice item you had,joy and happyness.

What is hof nowday ?
A bunch on money ( ped or oil dont care) ...som people that send you a gratz with PM , and you reply thanks to be polite , but there no item , and you know that 1k ped animal oil costed you 3k ped lost amo...

I wont even speak about skill , about the unreachable item....

I really think that is the problem now The lack of good items. What is the point of hitting a 5 k Hof if u cant buy sh!t whith it ? nowdays u get a hof full of oils and no items. u are lucky to find a L wep ...

 

[BlackMagicWoman]

Enjoying another game right now, which is affordable and mobs always contain loot..

Oh plssssssssss do tell! (PM if we are breaking rules )

 

[McCormick]

What is hof nowday ?
A bunch on money ( ped or oil dont care) ...som people that send you a gratz with PM , and you reply thanks to be polite , but there no item , and you know that 1k ped animal oil costed you 3k ped lost amo...

I wont even speak about skill , about the unreachable item....

Thats the spirit.

 

[Ateush]

Bored, playing 80% less than 6 months ago, dont plan to deposit any more.
Actually i was only depositting at the begining and later only after getting some nice HOF etc - just to say "Thank You MA"

Unless thats the plan - they want to have only new players, fresh meat with fat credit cards. They dont need old, skilled players.

I think its important thread and Marco should comment on this.
Bringing some fun at least here on EF - if they cant make EU fun again.

 

[milka]

Hi all!

I'm a quite young entropian player - 6 months of playing without depositing. Without a global too but thats another theme.

Lets think that MA got enough "peds" for him - what shall he do? He will slowly and slowly make the game harder and harder to be played. More and more people will totally quit with it and after all there will be so little people that MA will say to them : "Well... too less people, the game is shity - lets stop it." And I think this is what MA is trying to make...

Thanks for reading this shity reply


Yours,

Rolina(Roli)

 

[thoreau]

60% saying bored or bored to hell means something is wrong.

Not true.

this is a non-scientific poll. many players will avoid this poll and thread because they will see the title and think, 'great, another whining thread.'

This thread has over 4,000 views. Yet, only 350 or so have bothered to vote.

What would be more accurate is to say that, '60% of those that read this thread and bothered to vote say they are bored. Perhaps it is true that misery loves company.'

 

[Pe-nerd]

Well with all those nerfing i dunno what it is normal or abnormal no more. I had over 3 skill nerfes untill now and 2 made me dislike the game. I sold skills and reskilling as we speak and i profit about 1K a week with trades and hunting. With my 156 hp and 158K total skills somemonths ago i never had that much luck in hunting.

The one time you go faster the nxt time you go slower. For a long time ubers were sponsored the next VU they have to pay big time. MA is way to dynamic. I understand they cant´give us a constant profit all the time not even towards ubers but the loss rate you get now when hunting anything above an exo argo young or combibo makes you loos big time.

Providing a constant quality of your product means a constant flow of income, when will they understand that??

 

[kygon]

didnt see an option "I get bored, very bored but MA just manage to introduce features, mobs and items to keep me eagerly waiting for each new vu"

NOONE can really say this last vu was boring