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humanwoman

humanwoman

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I read somewhere that only 10k ppl play EU on a daily basis, is it the right number?
 
I personaly would say less.. I guess only MindArk know for sure.
 
humanwoman said:
I read somewhere that only 10k ppl play EU on a daily basis, is it the right number?
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The 10K number was from the planet partners info packs, and IIRC it was in reference to the number of "active" accounts...not daily players...
 
More than 1 and less than 50k ;)
 
On day to day basis if you take the info from the HOF list + the names on auctions + if you are lucky to own big friend list (you can see who plays and who don’t) you will figure that the active db is about 3000 players of which 1000 is present in EU almost every day and the 2000 remaining are casual players.

Am not far from the real numbers I put great time in writing down names on global chat, and added hypothetical % to it.

3000 that plays seems fair to me.;)
 
thanks! my own feeling also is that there are about 3-5k regular players in the game.. I hoped I might be wrong but... not many heh..
 
XingTianNu said:
you will figure that the active db is about 3000 players of which 1000 is present in EU almost every day and the 2000 remaining are casual players.

3000 that plays seems fair to me.;)
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that's a pretty good estimation yes.
 
If we would have 10k active players it would be such a wonderful world... After CE2 we hope to see a change... if we don't loose even what we have to other planets.
 
my guess is many more then we think.

cause u can't be on everyplace in entropia at the same time and check it out, but its would be fun to get a number on that.

/Spikey
 
Grrrrr said:
Well according to MA, there are between 80k-100k "regular players" ;)

Thoughts?
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Ahhh...the regular players...

Btw, found this little gem from the sidebar story after folloving your link.

"My feeling is that a game is either a good game or a bad game and just because you bought a bigger gun or some better shoes shouldn't change the game," stated Mr Tercek.
NGmoco's Mr Young is also wary.
"As long as developers don't prioritise greed over game play. You need to remember that at the end of the day, we are there to provide fun gaming experiences for people. Not something where they are constantly badgered to pay up for something.
"It's a careful balance we will have to learn as game makers," concluded Mr Young.
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Small is big in gaming world...
 
Considering how EU is built, I think is safe to say that people that use EU for sweat and social interaction and even opalo hunters that join once and never come back, all those are nothing more than testers. Players are those that went to "the next level" and saw something more than blasting 1$ of ammo and quit the game soon after that.
Even if we have 10k active players is a low number.

We have 600k created accounts. Some may be second avatars. But is safe to say that we have 500k people that made an account and joined EU. 490k of those walked away and never came back. That lead us to think that those 10-20-30k or whatever the number is, are very smart or very stupid to be here. Or just makes us see that something is really wrong with the game.

I think many people quit the game after 5 minutes because there is no help, no tutorial and nothing to do. If they have no other contact to tell them "hang on, there is more to see" they will just say "f%$k it, I better play something good rather than try to figure how to move around in this s61t". I know many that tried and give up fast because there is no tutorial.
Many more give up after first 3 weeks or so because the returns looks to much like a casino from their perspective, and is no reason for them to think otherwise, and no one can or will let them know any better.
Many more just don't trust MA. They suspect MA will just steal their money or they will just give loot to favorite accounts or new accounts made on the fly to take money out of the game by employees or their relatives. Whatever MA would say to disband this, while there is not prove they don't do that, is just their word against people trust, and that kind of sucks, because you need to win people trust. You can't expect that for free.
Then there is a part that reads EULA and decides not to waste any time inside in those conditions.
So from 600k people that made an account, we end up having 2k hard core "players" at various levels and 10-20-60-80k testers. So we loose.... more than 90% of people that join EU.
I am surprised MA does not doo more to make ot that more people stay in game after they make an account. And no, noob hof's are not the answer, as you see from how many people actually play the game. To see how many people actually play, you can make a sum of all TT sold in auction in L weapons or you can even calculate how much damage those will generate (i.e. how much people are spending). I am not impressed on those numbers. I mean... the game will look like a game when those numbers will be like 20-40 times higher. I hope after CE2 it will happen.
In game support 24/7 would be a nice touch.
 
well, according to tracker there have been hunting 765 glows from "unique" avi's in hte last 24 hours..
I may be wrong, but I take that to mean 765 different people have glow'd.

Also from tracker I seem to glow about once a week (on average) hunting, and I am on every day for 2-3 hours, so I would say I was a "regular".

A rough guess is 5k regular hunters. Add in hair stylists, coloures, pilots, etc...

My guess? 50-100k regulars, as there are plenty of things an avi can do that will never, ever, glow and that could be all they do.
 
almost 8k players globaled on hunt through last 30 days(tracker stats).
There can be 500-1000 more who do just minning or craftin, with minimal particpation in hunt(for me example).
And few hundreds, maybe 2-3k sweaters.
I think active is around 10k players(if not more, just remember what time did we need to get our first global..).
Maybe next 20-30k is joining from time to time(most of socs are these players, at least every soc i know)
So there should be 20-30k players which join at least once a month and approx 10k of hardcore players
 
Dorsai said:
A rough guess is 5k regular hunters. Add in hair stylists, coloures, pilots, etc...

My guess? 50-100k regulars, as there are plenty of things an avi can do that will never, ever, glow and that could be all they do.
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In a way you may be right. But on the other side, the turn over on the activities that don't glow (except trading) is so low, that is safe to say that those don't even exist in game as gamers. Are more like testers.

The title for the thread in my point of view should have been "how many of us are there that trust to do something actually in game". I see no added value in 100k people joining EU to say hi and bye and gratz on the soc chat, other than extra spam and more lag.
 
Dorsai said:
well, according to tracker there have been hunting 765 glows from "unique" avi's in hte last 24 hours..
I may be wrong, but I take that to mean 765 different people have glow'd.

Also from tracker I seem to glow about once a week (on average) hunting, and I am on every day for 2-3 hours, so I would say I was a "regular".

A rough guess is 5k regular hunters. Add in hair stylists, coloures, pilots, etc...

My guess? 50-100k regulars, as there are plenty of things an avi can do that will never, ever, glow and that could be all they do.
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But the traker count global not ppl, there is many times when is the same guy that global 10 times.:scratch2:

I think if we own 10k it will be much more activities on the market for example.

If you look close on that side you find many, many same ppl.
We can only guess but many games use the real time connection to promote the games is always nice to see 50k play atm, or 80k connected.

MA is doing the best they can to promote the game if they were able to put the real time counter on the client loader it will attract ppl to see big number connected. Why is there no real time count you can’t but wonder?;)
 
A realtime counter would be cool, but i fear that at max 1% of the total created accounts is (still) active. And if u can see that only, say 1000 players, are online, then people might choose not to logg in and play something else with a more active playerbase....
 
XingTianNu said:
But the traker count global not ppl, there is many times when is the same guy that global 10 times.:scratch2:
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Tracker is also keeping stats for countdwon in each profession too:
 
Matho said:
Tracker is also keeping stats for countdwon in each profession too:
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May I ask how we can use that in mathematics to calculate the number of players?

Clarify for me pls I did not understand?:(

Ty.
 
Grrrrr said:
:laugh:

I used it in another thread...Can't use it all the time :silly2:
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To me you can use it in every post (you own the copy right on that emotes).:wtg:

:scratch2:Wonder if this came out funny as intended…;)
 
Dorsai said:
well, according to tracker there have been hunting 765 glows from "unique" avi's in hte last 24 hours..
I may be wrong, but I take that to mean 765 different people have glow'd.

Also from tracker I seem to glow about once a week (on average) hunting, and I am on every day for 2-3 hours, so I would say I was a "regular".

A rough guess is 5k regular hunters. Add in hair stylists, coloures, pilots, etc...

My guess? 50-100k regulars, as there are plenty of things an avi can do that will never, ever, glow and that could be all they do.
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Sensible way to estimate. HOF list is long now, and we all know how often we feature on that too ...some people/teams multi feature daily too...so it's WAY more than 3k active.

Logically, how did MA turnover that much from 3k active accounts? Sweaters and testers make them little if anything, and very large depositors aren't the norm either. Why would outside companies (who do know the numbers) want to spend money on a planet in a universe with 3k players at all? Not logical is it?

Dorsai seems to me to have it about right for a guess.

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XingTianNu said:
May I ask how we can use that in mathematics to calculate the number of players?

Clarify for me pls I did not understand?:(

Ty.
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U said tracker count globals not ppl.
Countdown in that pic shows that is also showing number of ppl too(who globaled in last 30 days).
 
I don’t know but on 50 to 100 k I will think MA will put real count on the client no?

I mean if that the number it only can be good right, if I download something and see 50k connected there is chance even if you don’t understand the noob start you may stay just to find out why there is 50k ppl that are there, I may be wrong but I just try to use logics.

I mean look at SL they used the real time count why will prevent MA not to do the same? I mean 50k players in game trust me is big number for every MMO, the top 10 chare betwin 30 and 50k members connected and most use the real time count.;)
 
Matho said:
U said tracker count globals not ppl.
Countdown in that pic shows that is also showing number of ppl too(who globaled in last 30 days).
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Am even more confused now…:scratch2:

Can we agree that only 8000 ppl made traker account?

If so then he only track on base of 8000 places right?

Do they track ppl that don’t make account on the traker?
 
XingTianNu said:
Am even more confused now…:scratch2:

Can we agree that only 8000 ppl made traker account?

If so then he only track on base of 8000 places right?

Do they track ppl that don’t make account on the traker?
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Tracker keeps globals of all players, doesnt matter if they have or have not account there.

Hard to communicate with u btw
 
Matho said:
Tracker keeps globals of all players, doesnt matter if they have or have not account there.

Hard to communicate with u btw
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Sry, yeah it can be hard as your eng is perfect and I struggle.:ahh:

Ok let me think then we can say that 8000 ppl played the last 30 days? And am right or wrong ?:scratch2:

Or do you add them all and then is 12630 ?

I don’t know about math I guess we are both good (math are universal). If I take 12630: 30 (30 is the days, apparently the stats are from last 30 days so we use 30) so 12630: 30 = 421

So from that we can say that average global day rate is 421 right?

Then we can say that let say make 600 ppl more bring us to 1000, so can we say that about 1000 ppl play every day or not?

Pls correct me using your formulas, just to help dummy like me.:(

Pls state your formula…:scratch2:
 
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XingTianNu said:
Sry, yeah it can be hard as your eng is perfect and I struggle.:ahh:

Ok let me think then we can say that 8000 ppl played the last 30 days? And am right or wrong ?:scratch2:

Or do you add them all and then is 12630 ?

I don’t know about math I guess we are both good (math are universal). If I take 12630: 30 (30 is the days, apparently the stats are from last 30 days so we use 30) so 12630: 30 = 421

So from that we can say that average global day rate is 421 right?

Then we can say that let say make 600 ppl more bring us to 1000, so can we say that about 1000 ppl play every day or not?

Pls correct me using your formulas, just to help dummy like me.:(

Pls state your formula…:scratch2:
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Last post here, this is going howhere:
8000 ppl globaled in hunt in last 30 days - right, at least they played

Point of this thread is: how many of us are here, not: your problem with me.
Gl to you
 
Matho said:
Last post here, this is going howhere:
8000 ppl globaled in hunt in last 30 days - right, at least they played

Point of this thread is: how many of us are here, not: your problem with me.
Gl to you
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That is real rude…:rolleyes:

I don’t have any problems with you. The topic is ‘how many are we there’ now I try to figure it out.

Ok 8000 so we are 8000 ok.:scratch2:

There you go he told us how many are we, we are 8000 and of it.:wtg:

PS. That don’t tell us at all how many are logged every day. But yes we are 8000, someone say we are 1% of the total account guess he was right.
 
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